Pleasure (2021)

[dex14]

Wow. Neon is ****ing killing it this year. Their slate is awesome.

[SleazyForWeasley]

Political!

[mwynn]

Originally Posted by SleazyForWeasley

Political!

The salt is not even on each pretzel. Political.

[RustinCohle]

Neon is finally promoting this with an NY/LA release date of 5/13. After seeing the uncut version last year, I'm REALLY curious what version will be played in theaters..

[puddy77]

PLEASURE - Official Redband Trailer - In Theaters May 13, 2022 - YouTube

[Poya]

It's fascinating how Neon is stealing A24's thunder. A24 nearly chickened out on this?

[Damon1281]

Sure are a lot of tattoos in modern porn, it seems.

[Britnasty]

Originally Posted by RustinCohle

Neon is finally promoting this with an NY/LA release date of 5/13. After seeing the uncut version last year, I'm REALLY curious what version will be played in theaters..

It’s one of the best movies of last year and it’s a damn shame it’s taken this long for NEON to do anything with it.

NEON is releasing the uncut version, to preserve the directors original vision.

[Scottie]

I just saw the trailer. This looks very good. Can't wait to check it out.

[RalphoR]

Originally Posted by nissling

I saw this film last Wednesday on a preview in Stockholm. Director Ninja Thyberg attended for Q&A after the screening. She's been very active in her opposition to the adult film industry since early 2000s and this is her first feature length film. In preparation she attended many shoots in LA, interviewed producers, actors, directors etc. Almost all actors in the film are active in the adult industry, although the lead role is played by Sofia Kappel who's not starred in any film whatsoever up to this point making it a very strong debut.

Ninja however made it clear that her research and all the work that went into the film made her rethink much of her opinions. Pornography, as shown in the film, is a symptom of a patriarchy and not the other way around. Once the camera is put behind the set, you quickly realize that Ninja is undressing the industry and showing its dirty face. Women are portrayed as strong individuals, fully aware of how they're exploited rather than victims. At the same time, Ninja never gets sentimental or tries to tell her morals to the viewer. We are left with open questions that everyone where everyone will reflect different on.

I obviously saw the uncensored version and this is a very graphic film. Full nudes with clear focus on genitals is common from start to finish. Masturbation is frequent. BDSM and rape scenes also occurs. There's no penetration in picture however but some scenes are extremely disturbing. This is not for the faint of heart, but even so I still think you've got much to win by giving it a watch.

Nissling approves.

So you're saying this is not a family friendly movie?

[Steedeel]

are we still likely to get the directors cut when A24 release the Blu-ray?

Edit: Never mind, just read Foggy’s post stating Mubi have it.

I may just grab the German disc If it is the directors cut.

[fighthefutureofhd]

Originally Posted by nissling

I saw this film last Wednesday on a preview in Stockholm. Director Ninja Thyberg attended for Q&A after the screening. She's been very active in her opposition to the adult film industry since early 2000s and this is her first feature length film. In preparation she attended many shoots in LA, interviewed producers, actors, directors etc. Almost all actors in the film are active in the adult industry, although the lead role is played by Sofia Kappel who's not starred in any film whatsoever up to this point making it a very strong debut.

Ninja however made it clear that her research and all the work that went into the film made her rethink much of her opinions. Pornography, as shown in the film, is a symptom of a patriarchy and not the other way around. Once the camera is put behind the set, you quickly realize that Ninja is undressing the industry and showing its dirty face. Women are portrayed as strong individuals, fully aware of how they're exploited rather than victims. At the same time, Ninja never gets sentimental or tries to tell her morals to the viewer. We are left with open questions that everyone where everyone will reflect different on.

I obviously saw the uncensored version and this is a very graphic film. Full nudes with clear focus on genitals is common from start to finish. Masturbation is frequent. BDSM and rape scenes also occurs. There's no penetration in picture however but some scenes are extremely disturbing. This is not for the faint of heart, but even so I still think you've got much to win by giving it a watch.

Nissling approves.

I definitely want to check it out now, but the director's views and her being a woman really has me a tad nervous and uneasy. I understand she has qualms about porn and I do get where she may be coming from. However, she is a woman and 95% of porn is not made for women. And of course she has a problem with it. Most women do. I just don't like the idea that women have of porn being bad for society, men, and women in general. It's not bad. It's just like anything else in life where moderation is key. I still want to see this.

Originally Posted by Damon1281

Sure are a lot of tattoos in modern porn, it seems.

You don't know the half of it. And it's been this way for over 10 years. Really bad in AM films too.

Originally Posted by Poya

It's fascinating how Neon is stealing A24's thunder. A24 nearly chickened out on this?

Nearly? They did chicken out. That's why Neon's releasing it now. The movie is not even going to be that graphic. I've seen way worse movies at the local cinema. Stranger by The Lake comes to mind. That was like watching a full on pron at the theater.

[nissling]

Originally Posted by fighthefutureofhd

I definitely want to check it out now, but the director's views and her being a woman really has me a tad nervous and uneasy. I understand she has qualms about porn and I do get where she may be coming from. However, she is a woman and 95% of porn is not made for women. And of course she has a problem with it. Most women do. I just don't like the idea that women have of porn being bad for society, men, and women in general. It's not bad. It's just like anything else in life where moderation is key. I still want to see this.

Historically speaking Ninja has been very loud about her criticism against pornography, but during her research for this film she seems to have revalued much of it. She's been part in a few discussions over the past year regarding the subject and it's very clear that she does not get along well with many feminists who judges pornography based on outdated reports and prejudice.

The film itself is obviously fairly neutral and it's up to the viewer to make their own evaluation. There's no right or wrong here and there's no reason feeling nervous about the film because Ninja being an active feminist. I'm just saying you shouldn't expect something in the likes of Boogie Nights.

[fighthefutureofhd]

I'm not looking for a Boogie Nights. I'm actually looking for something that's semi-documentary and lets you peek inside what really goes on. I'm fascinated by the whole process. It's like any film industry. And I'm fascinated by the behind-the-scenes stuff. Even with music too.

[nissling]

I think Pleasure is as close as you'll ever get to what you're looking for. Give it a shot, it's worth it.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by fighthefutureofhd

I'm not looking for a Boogie Nights. I'm actually looking for something that's semi-documentary and lets you peek inside what really goes on. I'm fascinated by the whole process. It's like any film industry. And I'm fascinated by the behind-the-scenes stuff. Even with music too.

You could check out Labour Of Love (DVD) via Vinegar Syndrome.

Also VS’s partner label Pulse have put out IL Etait Une Fois Marilyn Jess which is quite an eye opener.

Later this year, Vinegar Syndrome are putting out a boxset of Jean-Francois Davy films including ‘Exhibition’. This explicit documentary plus a rumoured further two documentary films and possibly a couple of feature films may be included in the set.

There should be enough there to scratch your itch. Especially if you are open to French porn. (A Labour Of Love is American)

All of the above have very explicit footage.

[fighthefutureofhd]

I'll check them. Love french poprn.

[Steedeel]

Can anyone confirm that the German disc is uncut please?

[Benoit Blanc]

I saw mention of BDSM on this page. If it's Dominant Women and submissive men, I'm there!

[bensfiction]

I don't know what film school dropouts they hire here, but PLEASE just stick to doing AV reviews. That's why we're here. If we wanted to hear some quasi-pretentious bullshit review we'd go elsewhere. The reviewers here are beyond up their own ass with their reviews, and I'm tired of it. Does anyone have any suggestions of sites that review the AV quality of a disc WITHOUT spouting their ill informed two cents?