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Old 11-04-2019, 01:00 AM   #2001
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Is anybody alive here? Looks like dead thread
If you can try evoke 30s
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Old 11-04-2019, 01:01 AM   #2002
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Or a nice used pair of x34s
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Old 11-04-2019, 01:10 AM   #2003
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Are DM 3/7 and Focus 220II so bad and worse than X34? I'm limited by price
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Old 11-04-2019, 06:56 PM   #2004
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Are DM 3/7 and Focus 220II so bad and worse than X34? I'm limited by price
Not at all they are all great speakers, what makes you think they would be bad? Edit: I just saw Sandman's answer.

All of those speakers are discontinued If you have to choose between 220 VII or DM 3/7 I would pick the Focus but all in all if the price is right the DM offered great bang for the buck and just so were clear Dynaudio does not do bad speakers .

It's just some are better than others.

Evoke is replacin the X-Cite line.

X-34 should be cheaper than Focus 220 VII in fact and have a much smaller footprint that the other 2 speakers and they sound wonderful with better imaging than the other 2.

X-32 should be a consideration if you can find some used they are the tower version of the X-12 and X16 which you are considering.

Emit M30 is another option for you, which replaced the DM 3/7

Did you get a chance to hear some of them?

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Old 11-05-2019, 11:19 AM   #2005
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Alas but no. I have no such possibity.

I'm considering used speakers. The new ones are very expensive for me.

Excite X16, DM 3/7. It's what I'm looking at right now.

Focus 220II was in sad condition. One woofer was damaged. I abandoned this option.
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Old 11-05-2019, 03:00 PM   #2006
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Alas but no. I have no such possibity.

I'm considering used speakers. The new ones are very expensive for me.

Excite X16, DM 3/7. It's what I'm looking at right now.

Focus 220II was in sad condition. One woofer was damaged. I abandoned this option.
As I said do not cout out the X-32 and X-34 if you can find a pair at a decent price that is an amazing speaker for the money.

Any budget you work with?

Those X-18 replaced the X-16 and they are wonderful I own a pair for a pretty cheap price
https://www.audiogon.com/listings/li...e-x18-monitors

Those X-34 are totally wonderful for $1500
https://www.audiogon.com/listings/li...749-full-range
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Hey guys, hope all you Dyn owner's out there are doing well though this current situation!

I see they have some Heritage Special models out for demoing at most shops, I'd love to go have a listen at some point, but not even sure if my dealer would have a pair in to hear. Out of my budget anyway, but just curious to hear them!

However, I have been entertaining the thought of moving to the Evoke range of speakers which are in my budget. I read a few reviews and customer opinions and it seems mostly people think the Evoke sound sort of overly warm, smooth and mellow/mushy... which is not what I would like unfortunately.

Has anyone heard them in person? How does the Evoke line compare in sound/presentation to the Emit, Excite and Focus lines?
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Old 03-10-2021, 06:45 AM   #2008
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Hey guys, hope all you Dyn owner's out there are doing well though this current situation!

I see they have some Heritage Special models out for demoing at most shops, I'd love to go have a listen at some point, but not even sure if my dealer would have a pair in to hear. Out of my budget anyway, but just curious to hear them!

However, I have been entertaining the thought of moving to the Evoke range of speakers which are in my budget. I read a few reviews and customer opinions and it seems mostly people think the Evoke sound sort of overly warm, smooth and mellow/mushy... which is not what I would like unfortunately.

Has anyone heard them in person? How does the Evoke line compare in sound/presentation to the Emit, Excite and Focus lines?
Hi TWM, Long time no see, I do remember we have discussed this when the Evoke came out but I have not heard them in person yet, Let's just say I am happy with what I have and i have a whole lot of speaker .

I would think they are in line with the Special 40 maybe and possible the old Contours. Have you heard the Special 40?

Anyhow the Special 40 have even more roll off in the Treble vs the Contours.

New Contour is just a tad more forward than those which I believe you would love actually but that must bee out completely of you budget but oh god what an amazing speaker. In Fact the Contour pairs well with the Excites.

I would recommend you to bite the bullet and go strait to the Contour 20 and never look back.

The Focus were the most forward compared to Emit and Excite.

I am thinking this must not be that much more expensive than say brad new Evoke 20. I am not even sure it would be worthwhile to go from your current X-14 to the Evoke10

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/li...lable-monitors

That would be my guess.

Anyhow

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Old 03-10-2021, 03:24 PM   #2009
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Well, well....the Dynaudio forum has resurrected!!!!!
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Old 03-10-2021, 05:31 PM   #2010
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Well, well....the Dynaudio forum has resurrected!!!!!
Yeah it should be the Phoenix thread but man this forum is not very active anymore
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Old 03-10-2021, 06:23 PM   #2011
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Yeah it should be the Phoenix thread but man this forum is not very active anymore
True, I was gone for quite a while, had a lot of things that I went through, changed hobbies for a while. Now...I'm back....just wondering if there's anyone to talk with?
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Hi TWM, Long time no see, I do remember we have discussed this when the Evoke came out but I have not heard them in person yet, Let's just say I am happy with what I have and i have a whole lot of speaker .

I would think they are in line with the Special 40 maybe and possible the old Contours. Have you heard the Special 40?

Anyhow the Special 40 have even more roll off in the Treble vs the Contours.

New Contour is just a tad more forward than those which I believe you would love actually but that must bee out completely of you budget but oh god what an amazing speaker. In Fact the Contour pairs well with the Excites.

I would recommend you to bite the bullet and go strait to the Contour 20 and never look back.

The Focus were the most forward compared to Emit and Excite.

I am thinking this must not be that much more expensive than say brad new Evoke 20. I am not even sure it would be worthwhile to go from your current X-14 to the Evoke10

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/li...lable-monitors

That would be my guess.

Anyhow
Hey Olivier, nice to hear from you!!

I did hear the S40's a few years ago at my dealer's and thought they were wonderful. A little more extension up top, like you said, would have been even better but awesome speakers nonetheless.

I suppose the Evoke may be more of a side step from what I am already using... those Contours are very tempting, I would need to save up a bit more and sell a couple pieces of equipment first. So maybe that is what I will do... instead of a side step (or very slight bump up) with the Evoke, just put more $$$$ together and go big with a pair of Contour 20's.

I read a lot of people find them to be more laidback though... like you are sitting 20 rows farther back from the stage than with the S40 and other lower models. Do you find that to be the case, or are the Contour still an involving/lively speaker? My memory of the limited/quick listen I had of Contours so long ago isn't worth much now.
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Hey Olivier, nice to hear from you!!

I did hear the S40's a few years ago at my dealer's and thought they were wonderful. A little more extension up top, like you said, would have been even better but awesome speakers nonetheless.

I suppose the Evoke may be more of a side step from what I am already using... those Contours are very tempting, I would need to save up a bit more and sell a couple pieces of equipment first. So maybe that is what I will do... instead of a side step (or very slight bump up) with the Evoke, just put more $$$$ together and go big with a pair of Contour 20's.

I read a lot of people find them to be more laidback though... like you are sitting 20 rows farther back from the stage than with the S40 and other lower models. Do you find that to be the case, or are the Contour still an involving/lively speaker? My memory of the limited/quick listen I had of Contours so long ago isn't worth much now.
I think the Current Contours are jystg what you are looking for the old old ones were almost dark but not anymore still some high frequency rolloff but much less than the 40s.

I am thinking if you like the excites 14 you will lve the Contour 20. If you find the latest iteration of the 20 you will have an improve tweeter over the first gen.

Here the measurements of Contour 20
https://www.stereophile.com/content/...r-measurements


Measurement of X-14
https://www.stereophile.com/content/...r-measurements

if anything the Contour is a bit less tipped up but not too much.

I am sure you would love the Contour 20 and you would see the amount of micro details it capture make up for the slightly less lively sound.

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Curious if anyone has any experience with or thoughts on the Contour 25 Ci center channel. My 15 yr old AAD Silver Reference 3 has a short in the crossover which causes me to lose the tweeter for a bit, and it looks as if I will not be able to get at the crossover. They designed the Silver Reference back in the day to compete with the Contour line, so it will be a pretty good match to the rest of the system based on tweeter design and voicing. On paper it is impressive, and should be a step up from what I am using now, but would love some first hand reviews.
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Curious if anyone has any experience with or thoughts on the Contour 25 Ci center channel. My 15 yr old AAD Silver Reference 3 has a short in the crossover which causes me to lose the tweeter for a bit, and it looks as if I will not be able to get at the crossover. They designed the Silver Reference back in the day to compete with the Contour line, so it will be a pretty good match to the rest of the system based on tweeter design and voicing. On paper it is impressive, and should be a step up from what I am using now, but would love some first hand reviews.
I can't speak to the Contour center channel specifically, but I think a Focus 210C would be amazing for you, or even the Excite X28. I've owned both Focus 200C and Excite X24 and they are very good, and both should be a decent step up from what you were currently using... and if you didn't mind a smaller center channel, the Excite X24 would work very well also.

Contour center channel would have very similar Dyn house sound, but just be even better step up in quality from the ones I mentioned... if you have the budget for the Contour, I think you be in love with it if it's even better than the one's I've had!
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I think the Current Contours are jystg what you are looking for the old old ones were almost dark but not anymore still some high frequency rolloff but much less than the 40s.

I am thinking if you like the excites 14 you will lve the Contour 20. If you find the latest iteration of the 20 you will have an improve tweeter over the first gen.

Here the measurements of Contour 20
https://www.stereophile.com/content/...r-measurements


Measurement of X-14
https://www.stereophile.com/content/...r-measurements

if anything the Contour is a bit less tipped up but not too much.

I am sure you would love the Contour 20 and you would see the amount of micro details it capture make up for the slightly less lively sound.
Cool, thanks Olivier! I think I will bypass the Evoke and S40 and just save up a bit more and try to get a pair of used Contour20's. Maybe later this spring/summer I will try and take my X14's in to my dealers and do a side by side compare with the Contour. Saving up a bit more, and maybe selling a piece of equipment or two, should get me into Contour 20's!
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I can't speak to the Contour center channel specifically, but I think a Focus 210C would be amazing for you, or even the Excite X28. I've owned both Focus 200C and Excite X24 and they are very good, and both should be a decent step up from what you were currently using... and if you didn't mind a smaller center channel, the Excite X24 would work very well also.

Contour center channel would have very similar Dyn house sound, but just be even better step up in quality from the ones I mentioned... if you have the budget for the Contour, I think you be in love with it if it's even better than the one's I've had!
Thanks for the reply. I have definitely locked onto the Contour as the idea of two 7 drivers is very appealing. I have one more trick to fix my old center, so we will see if I dip my toes in the Dyn pool.
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Thanks for the reply. I have definitely locked onto the Contour as the idea of two 7 drivers is very appealing. I have one more trick to fix my old center, so we will see if I dip my toes in the Dyn pool.
Cool, hopefully you can fix your center... but I think if you heard the Dyn's you might consider selling your old center and upgrading!

As to the 7" drivers in Contour, yes they will push a lot of air and fill the room effortlessly... but if you are crossing over to a subwoofer at 80hz like I do, the extra diver size over the Focus or Excite center channels is sort of wasted. A 5.5-6" driver will also have better dispersion than the larger 7" one. Just something to consider, but the tweeter in the Contour would be the main selling point for me personally.
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Cool, hopefully you can fix your center... but I think if you heard the Dyn's you might consider selling your old center and upgrading!

As to the 7" drivers in Contour, yes they will push a lot of air and fill the room effortlessly... but if you are crossing over to a subwoofer at 80hz like I do, the extra diver size over the Focus or Excite center channels is sort of wasted. A 5.5-6" driver will also have better dispersion than the larger 7" one. Just something to consider, but the tweeter in the Contour would be the main selling point for me personally.
I run my fronts and center full range as a REL setup of subs approach things in a different fashion. I have a Rel T9i as a center effect sub, so you run it full range and the sub hooks up high level off it. It is a very cool thing once dialed in with the other subs in the system.
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I run my fronts and center full range as a REL setup of subs approach things in a different fashion. I have a Rel T9i as a center effect sub, so you run it full range and the sub hooks up high level off it. It is a very cool thing once dialed in with the other subs in the system.
Oh wow! Yes, I can see why you want to big guy then, lol!!
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