Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[dcx4610]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I have a hard time visualizing how you would be running out of space if the numbers under your screen name are accurate. It looks like you only have about 1100 titles.

Just one of my 6' high by 3' foot wide shelving units hold 560 titles and I have three such units per wall holding a grand total of 1680 titles.

You state that your shelves go all the way to the ceiling. Ceiling height in homes vary, but they are usually at least 8'. Your single wall of shelving should easily be able to accommodate your collection to at least 1890-2100 titles if your shelves are truly going from floor to ceiling. Do you anticipate doubling the size of your library any time soon?

I have a small home myself and I have no problem storing my 8000+ title collection in their original cases. While I have no way of knowing how your home is organized, I just can't imagine how a collection of your size is a problem even if you were to double or triple its size.

Do you mind linking your shelves?

Floor to ceiling might be a little exaggerated. The highest shelves I could find go 70" and my ceiling is 94ish. I have one shelf left on the wall. I can squeeze one more shelf in but then I couldn't open my closet door so I'd probably have to convert the door to a bi-fold.

I can't imagine storing 8000 titles. I'd love to see what your setup looks like or at least the shelves you are using.

I could always go custom shelfing and going true floor to ceiling but I'm dreading that day since carpetentry just isn't a skill I possess.

Here's a pic of my shelves from awhile back. I've since changed the orientation of my movies from top to bottom instead of left to right and they are all filled but the last shelf:

[bhampton]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I have almost convinced myself to buy .

The question is, am I smart enough to use it properly and do I need anything other than the disc itself? I understand that the disc comes with no instructions because they are only offered online, but even so these instructions are rumored to be written in Geek.

I've been tempted to buy that myself. If it were priced like a regular title I surely would have. I think they are doing us both a favor charging a little too much for it.

With my current projector I use it's own Auto calibration program and then just hope for the best. Results are good and no one complains.

I feel like I fully understand SDR calibration and for HDR I rely more on whatever the defaults are.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Vilya

The question is, am I smart enough to use it properly and do I need anything other than the disc itself? I understand that the disc comes with no instructions because they are only offered online, but even so these instructions are rumored to be written in Geek.

It is worth it if you only use it for setting black levels (Brightness) and white levels (Contrast). Also good to check your displays temperature as in is the white box really white or is it slightly pink (or some other color). Is those diagonal lines smooth or jaggie. I have no doubt you can do those things.

Stacey is in the process of releasing a new version of this disc, ETA is unknown at this point.

Click here and download the files that will help in using this disc.

[bhampton]

dcx4610,

I appreciate your concern about space. My shelves are bursting and there's a stack of large bins beside them with things deemed less worthy.

I just figure I'm going to have to make room because it doesn't look like new releases are slowing down.

I want most of them.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by dcx4610

I could always go custom shelfing and going true floor to ceiling but I'm dreading that day since carpetentry just isn't a skill I possess.

Can not tell if your shelves are adjustable or not but you have a lot of wasted space. You could add a lot more disc by adding more shelves and spacing them much closer to each other. Shelf pins like these allow you to use most of the available space.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by dcx4610

Do you mind linking your shelves?

Floor to ceiling might be a little exaggerated. The highest shelves I could find go 70" and my ceiling is 94ish. I have one shelf left on the wall. I can squeeze one more shelf in but then I couldn't open my closet door so I'd probably have to convert the door to a bi-fold.

I can't imagine storing 8000 titles. I'd love to see what your setup looks like or at least the shelves you are using.

I could always go custom shelfing and going true floor to ceiling but I'm dreading that day since carpetentry just isn't a skill I possess.

Here's a pic of my shelves from awhile back. I've since changed the orientation of my movies from top to bottom instead of left to right and they are all filled but the last shelf:

My 6' high by 3' wide shelves were custom built for me by my late father, but they made better use of their height by having 10 rows for discs whereas yours only have 6 rows. There is a lot of wasted space in your shelves; it looks like they were meant for books, not discs. Too much dead space above each row of discs.

Personally, I would just hire someone with woodworking skills to build me something more efficient. Shop around as the prices can vary greatly, but the best part is that you get to pick the materials. Solid well-built shelves are a one time expense that will last a lifetime, so I think its worth the cost.

Here is a company that makes media storage shelves out of solid oak that I have used, but they are not cheap. They do custom builds, too.

https://hillwoodshed.com/

Good luck and don't despair. There are lots of great solutions for storing our libraries, but you will have to search for one that works for you and your budget.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

It is worth it if you only use it for setting black levels (Brightness) and white levels (Contrast). Also good to check your displays temperature as in is the white box really white or is it slightly pink (or some other color). Is those diagonal lines smooth or jaggie. I have no doubt you can do those things.

Stacey is in the process of releasing a new version of this disc, ETA is unknown at this point.

Click here and download the files that will help in using this disc.

Maybe I should wait for the new version then, but at least I can confoozle myself with the current instructions in the meantime.

[dcx4610]

Yeah, I definitely have wasted space for height but they were the tallest and most narrow pre-built shelf I could find. The Ikea Billy's have a lot of wasted space with depth. The adjustable shelves would help with height but then you have uneven shelfing and potentially a full row where nothing will fit.

I guess custom shelves are really the way to go. I've looked and looked and no one really seems to offer floor to ceiling height media-specific shelving.

Oh well - I have space for 250ish more movies and then can squeeze in one more shelf and then I'll have to start thinking of options. 250-500 movies sounds like a lot but at the rate stuff is coming out, that'll take a year or two at most.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by dcx4610

Yeah, I definitely have wasted space for height but they were the tallest and most narrow pre-built shelf I could find. The Ikea Billy's have a lot of wasted space with depth. The adjustable shelves would help with height but then you have uneven shelfing and potentially a full row where nothing will fit.

I guess custom shelves are really the way to go. I've looked and looked and no one really seems to offer floor to ceiling height media-specific shelving.

Oh well - I have space for 250ish more movies and then can squeeze in one more shelf and then I'll have to start thinking of options. 250-500 movies sounds like a lot but at the rate stuff is coming out, that'll take a year or two at most.

I can not abide anything made out of particle board. Solid wood only.

Custom built costs more, but you get a product that exactly meets your needs made out of the materials that you choose and a high quality product that will last a lifetime. It's well worth it in my opinion.

[Vilya]

Wendell, I seem to recall that you once bought the Tascam 4K disc player, but you had to return it due to it being defective. Did you ever try another one and, if so, what did you think of it? Or did you just return it for a refund? Or have I hallucinated the whole story?

I hardly ever hear of anyone discussing this model.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Wendell, I seem to recall that you once bought the Tascam 4K disc player, but you had to return it due to it being defective. Did you ever try another one and, if so, what did you think of it? Or did you just return it for a refund? Or have I hallucinated the whole story?

I hardly ever hear of anyone discussing this model.

I did purchase the Tascam 4K disc player and it was defective so I returned for a refund. It seemed like a nice player.

Negatives for me: Nice front display but was too small to read from any distance. No discrete power on and power off IR codes. Does have discrete power codes when using RS-232.

Positives: What one would expect of a device made for commercial use. One rack space height (1U or 1.75 inches) x 19". Rack mount adapters are removable. Two HDMI outputs, 1 video and audio, 1 audio only.

At work we had several Tascam devices. Had a DA-88 in post audio, it was used in many studios and post houses. Had a Tascam (don't remember model) disk based multi-channel audio recorder on the mobile production trailer and it had problems maintaining time code sync lock.

[veritas]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

If you're with Southern California Edison then you probably are getting hosed to a certain extend. I alluded to that in an earlier post. If your city has their own grid and municipal services, you're doing alright.

You pretty much get ripped off anywhere in California unless you have solar. Right now they are attempting to rip you off for having solar also. If the current change they proposed last January went into effect it would potentially be cheaper to take any excess solar off your roof then to keep it given the rates they wanted you to pay for having solar.

Personally in california you should get solar and hope by the time the net metering grand fathering ends the power problem drastically changes or that batteries are cheap enough to go off the grid to avoid the ridiculous connection fees. Under the last proposal they basically wanted to charge people like 1300 dollars a year just in connection fees if they had solar.

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by dcx4610

My biggest fear with physical media is not that it would go away but that I'm quickly running out of space...

This should be a good topic of discussion, because some of your Movie Libraries seem to be getting out of hand. I went to a friends house last night and to my surprise he had several shelves of his Movie Collection. To me putting the Movies on a Media Server is the best option!

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by alchav21

This should be a good topic of discussion, because some of your Movie Libraries seem to be getting out of hand. I went to a friends house last night and to my surprise he had several shelves of his Movie Collection. To me putting the Movies on a Media Server is the best option!

Those of us that actually OWN what we buy know how much space we need for our library just like we also know much the discs themselves cost. All without any "help" from you.

I think our best option would be to put you on a media server followed by a sustained denial of service attack.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by alchav21

This should be a good topic of discussion, because some of your Movie Libraries seem to be getting out of hand. I went to a friends house last night and to my surprise he had several shelves of his Movie Collection. To me putting the Movies on a Media Server is the best option!

Easy discussion. I buy, I add to shelf in order of genre.

Or if I’m Vilya, I buy then wait two years to watch.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Or if I’m Vilya, I buy then wait two years to watch.

Vilya is a very bizzee man.

I'm always watchin' sumpin', but my spontaneous self never knows what that will be until the spirit moves me.

[cheez avenger]

Speaking of which, I need to buy some new shelves.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Or if I’m Vilya, I buy then wait two years to watch.

I have hundreds of movies and TV shows I haven't watched, some of which I've had for years.

I've never felt the need to watch anything quickly. My collection is there so I always have a large selection of lots of different movies and TV shows that I can watch at any time with no fear that any of them will ever be modified or removed.

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Those of us that actually OWN what we buy know how much space we need for our library just like we also know much the discs themselves cost. All without any "help" from you.

I think our best option would be to put you on a media server followed by a sustained denial of service attack.

You guys are crazy, reminds me of the Winchester Mystery House....Keep Building! No matter how much space you need. Running out of space, Disc not working because of compatibility, Disc problem or poor duplication, and Studio Disc Production troubles. Also Disc Player problems will add to the Frenzy!

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by alchav21

You guys are crazy, reminds me of the Winchester Mystery House....Keep Building! No matter how much space you need. Running out of space, Disc not working because of compatibility, Disc problem or poor duplication, and Studio Disc Production troubles. Also Disc Player problems will add to the Frenzy!

I've never come close to running out of space and less than 1% of my discs have had any playback issues (all of which were easy to replace).

Problems with my internet connection are much more common.