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Old 08-22-2019, 10:57 PM   #81
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That was a generalisation aimed at the calibration police!
Oh, and keep in mind that the Samsung backlight range goes from 0 to 50 -- it's not 0 to 100, so "11" isn't really like, say, "11-percent" of the range.
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Old 08-22-2019, 10:58 PM   #82
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Old 08-22-2019, 10:59 PM   #83
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Old 08-23-2019, 12:20 AM   #84
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Every UHD or BD is downconverted, the industry works in a 17:9 frame size that's 2048 or 4096 pixels across with 'scope 2.39 shows and 1998 or 3996 pixels across with 1.85 stuff, all of which has to be adjusted for the fixed width of 16:9 TV with HD @ 1920 and UHD @ 3840.

There are several movies out there that are not "native 4K" but which received a 4K finish nonetheless, like John Wick and Skyfall which were shot 2.8K flat (not anamorphic) on Alexa but uprezzed to 4K. 2.8K mightn't sound like that big of an advantage over 2K but it's almost double the pixels, 2880x1206 for the 'scope extraction vs 2048x858 for 2K 'scope, which still makes finishing out to 4K worthwhile IMO.

And yes, I'm greatly looking forward to Rogue One on UHD as well.
Thanks for your explanation, I didn't know that information either.
I thought John Wick was native 4K, not that I care, I have some uprezzed UHD BD's among my reference material like Prometheus, Alien Covenant, Sicario 2 or Star Trek ID.
I'm sure Rogue One will look outstanding, the Alexa 65 has a quality that I really like, I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw Sully on UHD BD, great picture quality with insane resolution and detail.
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Thanks for your explanation, I didn't know that information either.
I thought John Wick was native 4K, not that I care, I have some uprezzed UHD BD's among my reference material like Prometheus, Alien Covenant, Sicario 2 or Star Trek ID.
I'm sure Rogue One will look outstanding, the Alexa 65 has a quality that I really like, I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw Sully on UHD BD, great picture quality with insane resolution and detail.
Rogue isn't going to look the same as Sully though, just FYI. It was shot using woolier (though gorgeous in their own way) Ultra Panatar anamorphic lenses [edit] with a film emulation LUT applied whereas Sully was sharply spherical with no pretentions of looking filmic whatsoever [/edit], and Sully's smaller portion of VFX was actually finished out to 4K whereas Rogue's copious amount of VFX is 2K upscaled.

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DV can be a ballache in some TVs. On my previous TV I had DV discs visibly fading up and down at shot changes. Which was edge lit and I hated it. Edge-lit LED is horrible technology, you are forever compromising between screen uniformity and dimming artefacts. But I digress...

There's also personal preference. Slimdude might like a bright, lively image on his OLED and DV sort of gets in the way of that as it forces dim scenes to be dim. We can argue till the cows come home about accuracy and calibration but the end users preferences come into play. It's their TV.

IIRC, pushing DV on LGs past the calibrated target (50 default, or whatever it's been calibrated to) ups the gamma, which may help Slimdude get a brighter image. Though he's sold them on, so is likely moot. Don't you have a player than can force HDR10, Slimdude?



That might be your issue, there. HDR and DV have different settings. You get it correct for HDR10 and that won't make any difference to the default DV setting when you load a DV disc. They need tweaked separately, just like SDR and HDR10.
I have a Oppo 203.
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Old 08-23-2019, 10:16 AM   #87
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I have a Oppo 203.
You've got an option to strip DV data then.

https://watershade.net/wmcclain/UDP-...by-vision-disc
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Rogue isn't going to look the same as Sully though, just FYI. It was shot using woolier (though gorgeous in their own way) Ultra Panatar anamorphic lenses [edit] with a film emulation LUT applied whereas Sully was sharply spherical with no pretentions of looking filmic whatsoever [/edit], and Sully's smaller portion of VFX was actually finished out to 4K whereas Rogue's copious amount of VFX is 2K upscaled.
I read somewhere that for Rogue One vintage lenses from the 60's or the like were used. I can see that Rogue One is not Sully but even on BD Rogue One shows the potential of looking great on UHD BD if done right but being Disney that may be asking for too much.
Also, I think Rogue One sounds great on DTS-HD MA as in the BD edition but I fear the UHD BD (when released) may have one of those anemic Dolby Atmos Disney uses to do.
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Yes, the Ultra Panatars that I mentioned.
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You've got an option to strip DV data then.

https://watershade.net/wmcclain/UDP-...by-vision-disc
No, but thanks. I don't want to delete nor strip any presettings from my Blu-ray player, taking a chance of messing up my Oppo.
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That might be your issue, there. HDR and DV have different settings. You get it correct for HDR10 and that won't make any difference to the default DV setting when you load a DV disc. They need tweaked separately, just like SDR and HDR10.
You're right. There is a DV pre-settings on the LG, but I have to be playing a DV Blu-ray to access it, which I didn't know. I've change the manufacturer's Cinema mode to standard mode, and DV looks a lot better. I don't know if it's the accurate setting for DV, but that was the best picture mode that looked the best to me.. Also, I want to give a thanks to IntelliVolume as well for his input of helping to solve the issue as well.

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Old 08-24-2019, 06:04 PM   #92
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You're right. There is a DV pre-settings on the LG, but I have to be playing a DV Blu-ray to access it, which I didn't know. I've change the manufacturer's Cinema mode to standard mode, and DV looks a lot better. I don't know if it's the accurate setting for DV, but that was the best picture mode that looked the best to me.. Also, I want to give a thanks to IntelliVolume as well for his input of helping to solve the issue as well.
Glad to be of help in you figuring it out.

Though I would have thought a good "Cinema" preset would still be bright enough in a dark room; I use my Samsung's "Movie" present even when viewing HDR...
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No, but thanks. I don't want to delete nor strip any presettings from my Blu-ray player, taking a chance of messing up my Oppo.
That's not how any of this works.
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