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Old 08-16-2018, 10:38 PM   #21
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Well, I'm probably going to buy this release (especially if they do make an LE for it) even if it is way outside my comfort zone, as it's probably too big of a "landmark" release to skip getting... Although I did completely skip over Revolutionary Girl Utena...
I wouldn't count on an LE. I can't recall Discotek ever doing one.
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I made a comparison of the JP Netflix stream vs AnimEigo's DVDs via caps from SeaFox
I think those DVD screenshots are from the R2J remastered DVD. The screenshots and footage that I've seen of the AnimEigo DVDs look way worse than that.
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:46 PM   #23
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I think those DVD screenshots are from the R2J remastered DVD. The screenshots and footage that I've seen of the AnimEigo DVDs look way worse than that.
Then I'll edit that to include that info...
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:52 PM   #24
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Then I'll edit that to include that info...
The screenshots were on Nyaa. HD screenshots are from ATTKC webrip, R2J DVD screenshots are from the Desidis rip.
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Old 08-17-2018, 12:26 AM   #25
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Added the promo video to the main post. I've never uploaded things like this to YouTube and didn't feel particularly comfortable doing so, but I was excited and really wanted to embed it directly. It may be taken down in the near future, which is perfectly understandable.
They did a good job of working their promo cards into the cuts so it looks like an organic part of the intro. And I'm always up for Night of Summer Side. So pumped for this.
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Old 08-17-2018, 05:04 PM   #26
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Is Discotek gonna dub this series? I have the AnimEigo's DVD box set, but have never watched it because it was subbed only.
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Old 08-17-2018, 05:05 PM   #27
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A KOR dub would be great. I don't think it would happen, but I sure would pay extra for it without hesitation!
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Old 08-17-2018, 05:11 PM   #28
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I'm normally open to dubs, but this is one title that I honestly don't care if it receives one. The Japanese track is far too sentimental to me, especially considering Hiromi Tsuru's fairly recent passing.
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Old 08-17-2018, 05:12 PM   #29
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It would be nice if they did, as it would give more exposure to the series (though I'd never watch it dubbed, regardless of quality).

Though, I would not pay extra for it to be dubbed. Because I see no value in listening to third rate voice actors instead of a cast of incredible seiyuu that already exists.
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Old 08-17-2018, 05:19 PM   #30
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I think companies need to start doing what Pioneer did back in the day and get notable names to do dubs, like Warner Home Video does with their DC animated films.
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I've been waiting for this!
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I think companies need to start doing what Pioneer did back in the day and get notable names to do dubs, like Warner Home Video does with their DC animated films.
This has two major flaws. Anime distributors don’t have the kind of money a corporation like Warner Home Video has nor is anime as big as a DC animated film.
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There was a thread on Discotek doing a poll on whether people would pay more for new dubs being done for old shows, usually because they never had one done in the first place. What was the result of that? Did they ever respond to how it would effect the direction of their company? Are they going to try that strategy out with a title like this one?
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Old 08-17-2018, 08:31 PM   #34
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Nope. I don't think they said anything about the poll.

I'd rather they not dub these old titles, because

A.) Not many modern anime fans will watch old shows, regardless of quality

B.) The people who are dub only generally won't watch older series

C.) Price will increase and people would complain
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D.) (this is my favourite reason) Taking a risk and dubbing another show is a stupid idea, as they could do better things with said money, such as licensing other wanted titles.
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Old 08-17-2018, 09:46 PM   #35
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I would love a dub for something old like Gunbuster that never got one though I agree a new dub for most older shows Discotek licenses wouldn't have much appeal.

I would still love one for Lovely Complex though lol
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I think those DVD screenshots are from the R2J remastered DVD. The screenshots and footage that I've seen of the AnimEigo DVDs look way worse than that.
I created a few fresh screenshots from my AnimEigo DVD. However, I wasn't able to create one for the first shot because my discs are from the first pressing that removed the intro/OP. The second shot isn't the exact frame, but it's good enough to get the idea.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/118668/

After seeing this, I need these discs even more badly than I realized.

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Here are screenshots from the AnimEigo release that I took 15 years ago to illustrate the telecine ghosting.
(These are not deinterlacing artifacts, each screenshot is a single DVD field.)

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Old 08-17-2018, 11:51 PM   #38
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Maybe it's a good thing that my discs excluded it and I never saw the OP so horribly distorted by the ghosting.
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telecine ghosting
I should note that it isn't as bad as it looks. At least when viewed on an interlacing CRT it's hardly an issue. The ghost images only happen on the 60-fps fields that coincide with an animation frame transition. So e.g. for 8-fps animation, only every 7th or 8th video field would have ghosting. It might make things more difficult for "smart" deinterlacers, though.

I wonder whether the HD version is ultimately based on the same video masters, or whether a new telecine was made at some point. Or maybe some kind of smart reverse telecine which omits the problematic fields.

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I wonder whether the HD version is ultimately based on the same video masters, or whether a new telecine was made at some point. Or maybe some kind of smart reverse telecine which omits the problematic fields.
From Mr Sevakis himself:

"Nope, no ghosting. Only very old analog Hi-Vision masters have ghosting. These were made last year. Gorgeous. Specifically, that kind of ghosting only happened with analog telecines where the film was out of sync with the video fields. Pretty common in the 80s and 90s. Stops restoration dead. But basically never happens in the digital era."
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