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Old 10-07-2018, 09:40 AM   #21
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Iíll be sticking with my dual 1080tiís. I donít play enough pc games anymore to make it worth the cost of an upgrade. Actually been playing ps4 and switch more often than my pc. The PS4 just has so many great jrpgs.
Wish I could do 2 cards.
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Old 10-07-2018, 11:40 AM   #22
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There is literally no point IMO in PC Gaming anymore. It is just way too expensive. I used to be a massive fan - my first graphics card being the Nvidia FX 5200, then PNY Geforce 9800 GTX, then ATI 4890 1GB, then 980TI.

The problem is the games. There are literally no exclusives on PC anymore that demand high end graphics cards. Most games also have terrible reviews due to poor optimisation.

I love the thought of buying a new graphics card, but an Xbox One X and PS4 Pro does me fine for games now.
Really then explain to me why PC gaming is more popular and sells more units then consoles do?
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Old 10-07-2018, 06:43 PM   #23
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Really then explain to me why PC gaming is more popular and sells more units then consoles do?
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Really then explain to me why PC gaming is more popular and sells more units then consoles do?
Because its the only place (besides Xbox) where when you buy a game and have a good chance of playing it on hardware 10 years from now.
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I don't see the benefit in someone wanting a 2080 TI if they're using a 1080p monitor. A 1080TI (or the RTX 2080) will be MORE than enough for 120fps 1080p gaming. I would recommend at 1070 TI, or the 1080 before suggesting the 1080TI for 1080p.
However, if you have a 4k display, then it makes sense. It's pretty much the first time a single card will do 4k at above 60fps consistently while maxing out settings on almost all games these days.

I have a 3440x1440 120Hz display, and the 1080 TI is a perfect marriage with that resolution. Go less than that, and it's just money down the drain. 1440p still has some use with a 2080, but really, there is more headroom on the card than what that resolution requires.

So yes, people are mad that the 2080 TI - which is the fastest gaming card in the market, only topping the previous king ALSO by Nvidia - costs a lot. But I think the 2080 is a great option for most people. Especially if they are using a GTX 980 equivalent, or older card.

(This is also under the assumption that you won't get CPU throttling, such as an i3 and many i5's trying use these cards. Without proper OC'ing, the GPUs will not use their full potential and you'll have a whole other set of performance issues.)
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Old 10-08-2018, 04:54 AM   #26
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I'm still using the evga 1070.
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Old 10-19-2018, 01:25 AM   #27
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I don't see the benefit in someone wanting a 2080 TI if they're using a 1080p monitor. A 1080TI (or the RTX 2080) will be MORE than enough for 120fps 1080p gaming. I would recommend at 1070 TI, or the 1080 before suggesting the 1080TI for 1080p.
However, if you have a 4k display, then it makes sense. It's pretty much the first time a single card will do 4k at above 60fps consistently while maxing out settings on almost all games these days.

I have a 3440x1440 120Hz display, and the 1080 TI is a perfect marriage with that resolution. Go less than that, and it's just money down the drain. 1440p still has some use with a 2080, but really, there is more headroom on the card than what that resolution requires.

So yes, people are mad that the 2080 TI - which is the fastest gaming card in the market, only topping the previous king ALSO by Nvidia - costs a lot. But I think the 2080 is a great option for most people. Especially if they are using a GTX 980 equivalent, or older card.

(This is also under the assumption that you won't get CPU throttling, such as an i3 and many i5's trying use these cards. Without proper OC'ing, the GPUs will not use their full potential and you'll have a whole other set of performance issues.)
The only reason would be if they really, really want to play with ray tracing on and have money to burn for that.
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Old 10-19-2018, 01:27 AM   #28
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So yes, people are mad that the 2080 TI - which is the fastest gaming card in the market, only topping the previous king ALSO by Nvidia - costs a lot. But I think the 2080 is a great option for most people. Especially if they are using a GTX 980 equivalent, or older card.
You have to consider the different markets. The 1080ti where I live was around $1200, which already was getting to expensive for what you got in many peoples eyes. The 2080ti is selling for around $2100. We got hit with a massive price jump in Australia this gen, and other places will be similar. Which is why there is a lot of negativity surrounding it among some.

The extra premium just isn't justified. I'm hoping amd can release something that isn't priced ludicrously, I don't need the high end, just something that can compete with the 2070 but not priced astronomically will do nicely.
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Old 10-19-2018, 04:41 PM   #29
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You have to consider the different markets. The 1080ti where I live was around $1200, which already was getting to expensive for what you got in many peoples eyes. The 2080ti is selling for around $2100. We got hit with a massive price jump in Australia this gen, and other places will be similar. Which is why there is a lot of negativity surrounding it among some.

The extra premium just isn't justified. I'm hoping amd can release something that isn't priced ludicrously, I don't need the high end, just something that can compete with the 2070 but not priced astronomically will do nicely.
Companies got a taste of that profit and decided to screw the consumer.
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Old 10-21-2018, 01:58 AM   #30
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Companies got a taste of that profit and decided to screw the consumer.
Well I was going to upgrade, but they wanted to much so i'll see what amd does. The asking prices are not even close to worth it currently.
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Old 10-21-2018, 02:12 AM   #31
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I'm catching hell trying to find a single slot 4K hdmi 2.0/2.2 NVidia card for the pc. very, very little gaming, just for 4k purposes. I only found one, but, it's not available anymore or anywhere.

perhaps some of you gamers know of a single slot NVidia 4K card. ive even heard of some that are buss powered and don't require a separate power connection. again, it won't be for gaming, so, I figured if anyone knew about graphics cards it would be this bunch.

I'm looking to buy a new monitor/tv for my computer and it will be of the 4k flavor. probably not for much more than 4k video streaming and such, not any real games.

my advance thanks to those who are able to help out.
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I'm catching hell trying to find a single slot 4K hdmi 2.0/2.2 NVidia card for the pc. very, very little gaming, just for 4k purposes. I only found one, but, it's not available anymore or anywhere.

perhaps some of you gamers know of a single slot NVidia 4K card. ive even heard of some that are buss powered and don't require a separate power connection. again, it won't be for gaming, so, I figured if anyone knew about graphics cards it would be this bunch.

I'm looking to buy a new monitor/tv for my computer and it will be of the 4k flavor. probably not for much more than 4k video streaming and such, not any real games.

my advance thanks to those who are able to help out.

I think what you're looking for is the GT 1030 (this is just an example, check out the other brands too). It's literally the lowest tier GPU nVidia has to offer so even if you wanted to game on it, it's probably not going to be a great experience in that regard (better than an Intel IGPU though). It should handle 4k video no problem though. I would guess it would struggle with the higher quality scaling algorithms and settings with something like madVR but if you use that it shouldn't be a problem to lower the settings and still get a good image.

If you need more horsepower than that though I think your only option is to find a way to make dual slot work (any particular reason you absolutely need single slot?) or get a 1050/1060/1070 that can be converted to single slot via aftermarket air cooler (Though i'm not aware of any such cooler) or custom water cooling (probably highly impractical considering your use case).

There's also cards like this 1050 Ti (a bit of a step up from the 1030) which is technically dual slot due to how far the cooler sticks out, but maybe it'll work for your situation?
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This is perfect for me for 4K/HDR streaming online and videos if I'm using the pc. I actually don't game on my pc so even though this is a low power card, it's exactly what I want in a single slot 4K hdmi card.

Ordered! Thanks Nick!

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This is perfect for me for 4K/HDR streaming online and videos if I'm using the pc. I actually don't game on my pc so even though this is a low power card, it's exactly what I want in a single slot 4K hdmi card.

Ordered! Thanks Nick!
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No problem bud, glad I could help.
My OS drive died about a week before I asked about the graphics card. I wanted to replace my old card with something 4K and cheap but good. Iím replacing the OS drive with a 1tb SSD. I also decided to upgrade the data/programs drive with a 2tb sata drive.

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Will get this done this weekend. Again, thanks for the graphics card heads up!
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got everything done as mentioned above and it works like a charm, at least 2x as fast as it was before the rebuild.

also, determined my CPU cooling fan/heatsink was noisy (bearings) I got a new one for like $10 on ebay, it was a beauty too, twice as tall as my old one, more fin area. installed it, added some antioxidation of course, now it's as quiet as ever. haven't had this pc this quiet in years. graphics card works perfectly too!

so for very little coin, I'm back in business. that 1tb Samsung SSD is lightning fast! what a great investment that was; worth every penny too!
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got everything done as mentioned above and it works like a charm, at least 2x as fast as it was before the rebuild.

also, determined my CPU cooling fan/heatsink was noisy (bearings) I got a new one for like $10 on ebay, it was a beauty too, twice as tall as my old one, more fin area. installed it, added some antioxidation of course, now it's as quiet as ever. haven't had this pc this quiet in years. graphics card works perfectly too!

so for very little coin, I'm back in business. that 1tb Samsung SSD is lightning fast! what a great investment that was; worth every penny too!
Very nice, glad it worked out. Agreed on the SSD. An SSD is the best thing that can happen to any PC. I will be so happy when they become standard on every PC. I nearly tear my hair out every day at work when I'm repairing HDD based PC's. Everything takes soooooo long to do
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Very nice, glad it worked out. Agreed on the SSD. An SSD is the best thing that can happen to any PC. I will be so happy when they become standard on every PC. I nearly tear my hair out every day at work when I'm repairing HDD based PC's. Everything takes soooooo long to do
nvme2 PCIE SSD are the standard now
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Standard for mid-range/high end maybe. I won't consider it standard until every mainstream has it too. When only 1 out of 10 laptops I repair has an SSD (let alone an NVMe SSD), it's far from standard. And I'm not talking old pieces of junk here, we're talking 2017-18 model years.
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NVIDIA have there pre CES event next Sunday.

The RTX 2060 looks set to be revealed along with their laptop RTX cards.

The RTX 2060 Price range is expected to be around $299-$349 available from Jan 7th with a wider release from Jan 15th.


The RTX 2060 actually seems like a decent card, in the preliminary benchmarks if they are accurate then it seems to be on par with the GTX 1080 in some conditions it is an improvement.

Looking at BFV it even manages to pull off RTRT at a stable framerate it even manages to use DLSS to bump the FPS up even higher too.


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A few days back, we got to see the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 Founders Edition pictures leak out along with specifications. Today, we are getting the full package with not only the pricing but also the performance numbers being detailed at 1080p and 1440p. It looks like the GeForce RTX 2060 would cost $349 US, for both Founders Edition and Custom models. But we know the RTX 2060 will be offered in at least two different variants so we can see one of the models going for around $299 US too.

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Coming to the specifications first, we know that the card will be using the TU106 GPU core. This GPU SKU will be slightly cut down from the full variant on the RTX 2070, featuring 1920 CUDA cores, 240 Tensor Cores, 30 RT cores, 120 TMUs, and 48 ROPs. The card will feature clock speeds in the 1365 MHz (Base) and 1680 MHz (Boost) range while delivering up to 6.5 TFLOPs of Compute performance.

Since the card has 6 lower RT cores than the RTX 2070, it may end up with around 4-5 Giga Rays per second worth of ray tracing performance. I think NVIDIA will try to make 5 Giga Rays a bare minimum for designating a card as RTX. It will make sense since anything below would not be playable unless dropping the resolution below 1080p which doesnít make a whole lot of sense in this time and age.

When it comes to memory specifications, the card would feature 6 GB of GDDR6 memory along with a 192-bit bus interface, running at 14 Gbps. This would deliver 336 GB/s of bandwidth for the card which is higher than the GeForce GTX 1080 with 10 Gbps GDDR5X dies.

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As for the performance numbers, Videocardz posted both 1080p and 1440p results for the RTX 2060 while comparing it to the GeForce GTX 1060, GTX 1070, GTX 1070 Ti and GTX 1080. At 1080p, the GeForce RTX 2060 had a clear lead over the GTX 1070 in several AAA titles. In 12 out of the 20 titles tested (excluding RTX titles), the RTX 2060 was faster than the GTX 1070 Ti. It was also faster than the GTX 1080 in 3 titles while being neck-on-neck in other titles.

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When comparing performance at 1440p, the RTX 2060 leads or matches the GTX 1070 Ti in 15 different AAA titles. This is a bigger improvement over 1080p while over the GTX 1080, the RTX 2060 leads in 3 titles and coming really close to the rest. We can see overclocked variants closing the difference between the GTX 1080 and GTX 1070 Ti (both cards which are really close to each in terms of performance and feature 8 GB GDDR5X memory compared to 6 GB GDDR6 on the RTX 2060.



Over the GTX 1060 and GTX 1070, we can see the RTX 2060 as a clear winner with good gen over gen improvement in performance.
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Thereís also RTX numbers as many were speculating that the RTX 2060 may have underperformed when it comes to the ray tracing feature. That may not be the case and the performance is actually similar to that of the RTX 2070 with RTX enabled. Following are some numbers:
  1. Battlefield V: RT Off: 90 FPS
  2. Battlefield V: RT On + DLSS Off: 65 FPS
  3. Battlefield V: RT On + DLSS On: 88 FPS

Here you can see that NVIDIA is putting more emphasis on the use of DLSS with RTX enabled to gain the same performance numbers as you would with RTX disabled. One more thing to note is that with RTX on Ultra at 1080p, the card scores 58 FPS while with Medium preset, it scores 66 FPS. Similarly, at 1440p, the card has a 10 FPS difference between RTX Ultra and RTX Medium preset.
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As mentioned before, the GeForce RTX 2060 would be available for $349 US and that would be the base price for the custom models. The card will be introduced on 7th of January with an official availability planned for 15th January. The card would get a bundle promotion with the selected AAA titles being either Battlefield V or Anthem, a copy of which users will be able to redeem for free on the purchase of the GeForce RTX 2060. Stay tuned for more information in the coming week.
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