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Old 10-03-2017, 09:53 PM   #2001
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Default 3d bluray is dead in the united states.... almost

Well now that universal studios is abandoning 3d bluray and not releasing despicable me 3 bluray on 3d it now make it official that almost all film studios in the United States are done releasing 3d bluray.

Here are a list of studios that have ended making 3d blurays for the USA
Sony pictures(mostly)
Walt Disney studios(mostly)
Universal studios
Lionsgate
20th Century Fox (somewhat)

The only studios still making 3d blurays for th United States
Paramount pictures
20th Century Fox(somewhat)
Warner Brothers
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Old 10-03-2017, 10:57 PM   #2002
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The sun certainly seems to be setting on 3DBD here in the (wicky wicky wicky) Wild Wild West. It's unfortunate that the 3D/4K combos didn't become standard, that was 3D's best chance.
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Old 10-03-2017, 11:13 PM   #2003
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The sun certainly seems to be setting on 3DBD here in the (wicky wicky wicky) Wild Wild West. It's unfortunate that the 3D/4K combos didn't become standard, that was 3D's best chance.
Yup it's doublly sad considering most countries still getting 3d bluray releases like Japan get the 3d disc automatically included in the 4k bluray pack so it's not like it costs the studios anything to release the same version of the 4k packs they release their in the USA as well.
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Old 10-03-2017, 11:18 PM   #2004
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Yup it's doublly sad considering most countries still getting 3d bluray releases like Japan get the 3d disc automatically included in the 4k bluray pack so it's not like it costs the studios anything to release the same version of the 4k packs they release their in the USA as well.
Well, those Japanese sets do average anywhere from $50-70 and frequently get poor reviews on Amazon for the outrageous pricing (above and beyond even the ordinary pricing for Blu-rays in Japan, which is outrageous enough).
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Old 10-03-2017, 11:19 PM   #2005
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Yup it's doublly sad considering most countries still getting 3d bluray releases like Japan get the 3d disc automatically included in the 4k bluray pack so it's not like it costs the studios anything to release the same version of the 4k packs they release their in the USA as well.
I feel like there's an effort from the CE/retail side of things to downplay/remove 3D, if just to simply shelf displays. Maybe it's the case where distributors were seeing a massive dropoff in orders for 3D stock from places like Wal-Mart/Best Buy (there were general US 3D releases for Wonder Woman, Suicide Squad, Dr. Strange but I've never seen a copy on a shelf at retail, all these stores would have a small amount of 3D copies up through last Fall for most major titles at least I remember it that way) and it's more complicated than the Home Video divisions giving the finger to 3D because they can. Disney has been withholding many 3D BDs from the US since 2014 so it's also hard to just place blame on 4K.

I feel there are a lot of factors that bring the situation to where it is today.
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Old 10-03-2017, 11:23 PM   #2006
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I feel like there's an effort from the CE/retail side of things to downplay/remove 3D, if just to simply shelf displays. Maybe it's the case where distributors were seeing a massive dropoff in orders for 3D stock from places like Wal-Mart/Best Buy (there were general US 3D releases for Wonder Woman, Suicide Squad, Dr. Strange but I've never seen a copy on a shelf at retail, all these stores would have a small amount of 3D copies up through last Fall for most major titles at least I remember it that way) and it's more complicated than the Home Video divisions giving the finger to 3D because they can.
Nope I'm pretty sure the reason 3d bluray is dying in the USA is because no new TVs are being produced that contain the ability to play 3d movies.
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Old 10-03-2017, 11:23 PM   #2007
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Not even gonna lie, I'm beyond pissed and it makes me not even want to support these studios ever again. I know it wasn't the most popular format but there are still plenty of people who ask and want 3D releases. It should be made available especially for people who have invested money in 3DTV and equipment.
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Not even gonna lie, I'm beyond pissed and it makes me not even want to support these studios ever again. I know it wasn't the most popular format but there are still plenty of people who ask and want 3D releases. It should be made available especially for people who have invested money in 3DTV and equipment.
Yup I like you am beyond pissed too about the way the studios are treating us who invested in 3d basically the studios only care about the people who buy new TVs every year. Heck if the television manufacturers stopped making 4k TVs 4k bluray would die too.
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On the bright side, we've already got most of the best movies of the 2000s/2010s 3-D revival released on 3DBD. While there are a few exceptions, the 3-D is dialed down so far on many new conversions that it's barely worth having it in there to begin with. And the 3-D Film Archive still seems committed to releasing classic 3-D films on the format, which by and large tend to blow newer 3-D movies out of the water (at least in terms of the stereo photography).
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With no more native shoots and vintage stuff coming to a trickle I wonder if the best thing for 3D would be to completely die for a while. After some absence it can come back (this time as 4K 3D), and then we have renewed chances for studios to put out stuff like F13th, Hondo, work with 3DFA, reinvest in native shoots (hopefully with more parallax this time on both ends), and in general approach 3D as a viable concern again rather than this weird zombie albatross strung along via conversions for the sake of surchage. I don't know if weakass conversions like Apes and Wonder Woman are doing anyone any good.

When Ghost in the Shell (which I thought looked OK for a conversion) and GOTG 2 (which I thought was maybe a little bit less pointless than the typical weak Disney conversion) are praised as great 3D I feel like the bar just gets lower and lower all the time. Some people are saying that TLK has great 3D and outside of some very specific shots (which do look great, no question about that) there's almost no depth to be seen.

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Old 10-03-2017, 11:48 PM   #2011
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Huh?

We're busier than ever!

http://www.3dfilmarchive.com
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Huh?

We're busier than ever!

http://www.3dfilmarchive.com
Glad to hear it, I buy all the 3DFA releases and will continue to do so. However last year had vintage releases from elsewhere, like Comin At Ya, Metalstorm and Jaws, this year it's been all TT (with their only new-to-3DBD titles this year being Mad Magician and Gun Fury, and I understand there are none in the works from them at this time) and 3DFA.

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Huh?

We're busier than ever!

http://www.3dfilmarchive.com
Yes, I was going to say that 3DFA has, if anything, ramped up their vintage releases. Taking into account that you guys are a smaller outfit and only capable of working on so many titles at any given time.

Your work is much appreciated. I hope you and Kino are able to continue poking and prodding the studios into releasing those sought-after vintage titles still to be released from the 50s and 80s.
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Another "3D dead" thread... Why not use one of those older threads posted from 2011 instead of creating yet another new one?

While the US market isn't quite as large for blu ray 3D as in other countries with more 3D fans, thankfully importing is the next best option if a blu ray 3D movie isn't released in the US; to keep your blu ray 3D library going for the movies you want in 3D.
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Another "3D dead" thread... Why not use one of those older threads posted from 2011 instead of creating yet another new one?

While the US market isn't quite as large for blu ray 3D as in other countries with more 3D fans, thankfully importing is the next best option if a blu ray 3D movie isn't released in the US; to keep your blu ray 3D library going for the movies you want in 3D.
This thread was created more to keep track of what studios are still supporting 3d and to measure and speculate how much time is left before all the studios stop supporting 3d bluray.
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I will get what movies I like and are in 3d. If not plain blu-ray is fine. I don't think I will buy 4k for a couple of years at least. Just not enough true 4k anyways.
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Tough to hear but it might be getting to the point where it really starts winding down. Ugh. My 65" OLED has tremendous 3D performance too. I wasnt even that into 3D until this set spoiled me. Damn.

Well, I already bought and will add more good documentaries & a few flicks here and there when it makes sense. IMO, the documentary/natture stuff benefits the most from 3D and I eat that content up
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Not even gonna lie, I'm beyond pissed and it makes me not even want to support these studios ever again. I know it wasn't the most popular format but there are still plenty of people who ask and want 3D releases. It should be made available especially for people who have invested money in 3DTV and equipment.
Agreed. It's infuriating. A lot of people spent tons of money on 3D TVs and 3D capable receivers and 3D collections, just to have them drop support. Now they want us to dive into UHD and trust they won't pull the same crap with that format.

I'm very much struggling with this. On the one hand, I am interested in the new format, especially since I already own a pretty nice HDR-capable UHD set. But I hate myself for supporting the studios and the manufacturers after the abuse they hand us. 3D has been poorly handled from the beginning, and even through all the crap we've gone through with this format, many of us still support it because of what it has to offer.

3D blu-rays are still being manufactured, and many of us have a huge collection of 3D titles. Yet the manufacturers don't offer us even a single 3D TV, so if our sets break tomorrow, or get stolen, or have an accident, we have no option of buying a new 3D TV. It's disgusting, dropping support of a format that is still widely available and supported by many.
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On the bright side, we've already got most of the best movies of the 2000s/2010s 3-D revival released on 3DBD. While there are a few exceptions, the 3-D is dialed down so far on many new conversions that it's barely worth having it in there to begin with. And the 3-D Film Archive still seems committed to releasing classic 3-D films on the format, which by and large tend to blow newer 3-D movies out of the water (at least in terms of the stereo photography).
I disagree with this. Wonder Woman was a disappointment for sure in terms of 3D, but most of the 3D films I've seen this year have been amazing. Kong:Skull Island, Dr Strange, Ghost in the Shell, Guardians of the Galaxy 2 and Valerian were all outstanding in 3D.

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With no more native shoots and vintage stuff coming to a trickle I wonder if the best thing for 3D would be to completely die for a while. After some absence it can come back (this time as 4K 3D), and then we have renewed chances for studios to put out stuff like F13th, Hondo, work with 3DFA, reinvest in native shoots (hopefully with more parallax this time on both ends), and in general approach 3D as a viable concern again rather than this weird zombie albatross strung along via conversions for the sake of surchage. I don't know if weakass conversions like Apes and Wonder Woman are doing anyone any good.

When Ghost in the Shell (which I thought looked OK for a conversion) and GOTG 2 (which I thought was maybe a little bit less pointless than the typical weak Disney conversion) are praised as great 3D I feel like the bar just gets lower and lower all the time. Some people are saying that TLK has great 3D and outside of some very specific shots (which do look great, no question about that) there's almost no depth to be seen.
Can't agree with this either. Firstly, vintage 3D is coming fast and furious on blu-ray. I've been buying new 3D vintage titles pretty regularly for the past several months.

Secondly, killing 3D momentum will not help it. Dropping home 3D support is a bad idea and will just make it more difficult to try and bring it back later. The technology is already here and works wonderfully. Why drop it and start over? If they want to work on glasses-free 3D (which is a long way off because it will require at least 8k sets minimum to pull off) then fine. But that doesn't mean we should do without for years. I have a large collection of 3D titles and I want to be able to watch them tomorrow, next year, and in 5 years. I don't want to have to wait another 10 years before I can watch my 3D movies again. The smartest thing the manufacturers can do is bring back 3D support in some of their mid-to-high-end sets next year, and gain a bit of our trust back. Hollywood is not going to stop making 3D films. It makes them too much money in the theatres. And the theatres have invested a ton of money for the ability to carry 3D titles. Releasing 3D theatrically but not on home video, when we used to have the ability to buy 3D for our home, is not what I call progression.

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Tough to hear but it might be getting to the point where it really starts winding down. Ugh. My 65" OLED has tremendous 3D performance too. I wasnt even that into 3D until this set spoiled me. Damn.

Well, I already bought and will add more good documentaries & a few flicks here and there when it makes sense. IMO, the documentary/natture stuff benefits the most from 3D and I eat that content up
The TV manufacturers have underestimated how many people support 3D at home. Many people have discovered the awesome 3D on the current generation of UHD sets after they bought it. It was not the primary reason for buying the TVs, but they are now hooked. The manufacturers have not taken any of that into consideration. They claim 3D was a not a major selling point for TVs in their poll so that's reason enough for them to drop them. Stupid decision. LG had the best 3D and had the market to themselves and threw it away.
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