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Old 07-26-2015, 04:07 PM   #1
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I need another car soon but first I need to get into a better place financially. Cars I am considering in my price range -
2013 Volkswagen Jetta
2012 Nissan Sentra
2014 Nissan Versa
I want a car that will be economical to maintain and will last me(with some good maintenance and a bit of luck) about 10-12 years. It's the biggest reason I keep saying no to that 60,000 mile 2006 Lexus my sister is trying to sell me. Really leaning towards the Jetta, my father's insistence that the car costs as much as a Mercedes to maintain is giving me pause.
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What is wrong with a 2006 "luxury" Toyota? What model? Gussied Camry?(I'd pass too)

VW does not cost what a Merc does to maintain. Cheap as a Ford? No.

How long a car lasts is more dependent on how it was maintained. Not luck.

My current stable(5 drivers total...)

95 Miata...330,680(almost criminal how cheap this car has been. 2 clutches. Still on the original starter, alternator and radiator)
89 Taurus SHO...247,000
94 Chevy G30...698,000(on 2nd 350)
97 F250 diesel...1,589,432
06 Forester...377,743(original head gasket blew at 155,000. 2nd engine)
10 Forester...104,476
89 Astro...1,875,567(three 4.3 and four 700R4. Costs $800 for a used motor and trans swap)
69 Sprite...157,000 (owned this car 20 years. It has cost more to maintain...than everything else....combined)

I've owned others(Supra, A6, Audi V8, E350 x2, Mustang GT) that were mostly killed off in accidents that totalled them.

Everything gets oil changes between 4k and 10k. Everything gets a coolant flush every 40k or two years(whichever occurs first). Brake/power steering fluid gets flushed every 3(most common overlooked items. If you flush these two...you should never encounter...1. Broken/cracked brake lines 2. Leaking rack 3. Stuck calipers)

Struts/shocks, brakes, CV axles, starter, alternator are ROUTINE MAINTENANCE.

Those are not "problems" on any car.

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Old 07-26-2015, 05:00 PM   #3
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What is wrong with a 2006 "luxury" Toyota? What model? Gussied Camry?(I'd pass too)

VW does not cost what a Merc does to maintain. Cheap as a Ford? No.

How long a car lasts is more dependent on how it was maintained. Not luck.

My current stable(5 drivers total...)

95 Miata...330,680(almost criminal how cheap this car has been. 2 clutches. Still on the original starter, alternator and radiator)
89 Taurus SHO...247,000
94 Chevy G30...698,000(on 2nd 350)
97 F250 diesel...1,589,432
06 Forester...377,743(original head gasket blew at 155,000. 2nd engine)
10 Forester...104,476
89 Astro...1,875,567(three 4.3 and four 700R4. Costs $800 for a used motor and trans swap)
69 Sprite...157,000 (owned this car 20 years. It has cost more to maintain...than everything else....combined)

I've owned others(Supra, A6, Audi V8, E350 x2, Mustang GT) that were mostly killed off in accidents that totalled them.

Everything gets oil changes between 4k and 10k. Everything gets a coolant flush every 40k or two years(whichever occurs first). Brake/power steering fluid gets flushed every 3(most common overlooked items. If you flush these two...you should never encounter...1. Broken/cracked brake lines 2. Leaking rack 3. Stuck calipers)

Struts/shocks, brakes, CV axles, starter, alternator are ROUTINE MAINTENANCE.

Those are not "problems" on any car.
Yeah, pretty sure it's a 2006 ES 230, basically a Camry with bells and whistles. Not sure why my father seems to be be saying Lexus or bust. He's also very against me getting an import but laugh when I suggest a Ford Focus, if I didn't know better I'd say he doesn't want me to get another car.
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Old 07-26-2015, 05:12 PM   #4
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What is wrong with what you got?

The Focus with original FordTouch is meh(the car itself is great).

The first year 6-speed "automated manual" are wonky(but so are the ones from BMW, VW etc...)

True story...

I bought my SHO in 92 from a friend's grandmother(81 when she bought it. Always owned fast cars...). Had under 30,000.

By the time it hit 80k...

7 sets of front tires.
CV replaced twice.
Struts at 50k
Clutch
Front pads twice
Rear pads once
Front calipers/rotors

Since? (bought a Supra Turbo and a Mustang GT. Had all three from 95-2001)

Routine. But...for those 6 years...it was the slowest car I had.

(I've never had to have a car loan or mortgage though...)

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Old 07-26-2015, 05:32 PM   #5
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I'm also seeking a car roughly in your price range for a daily driver. I've heard mixed reviews for the Honda CR-Z but I'm very interested in getting one for my daily commute which will soon be roughly 140 miles round trip. I see 1st gens on eBay with relatively low mileage that are reasonably priced which has me excited but also cautious. I like the sporty look of them and the fact that they are kind of the spiritual successor to the CR-X but with a hybrid twist. At the same time they lack power, however I saw that Jackson Racing makes a bolt on supercharger that I might consider later down the road should I get the car.
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I'm also seeking a car roughly in your price range for a daily driver. I've heard mixed reviews for the Honda CR-Z but I'm very interested in getting one for my daily commute which will soon be roughly 140 miles round trip. I see 1st gens on eBay with relatively low mileage that are reasonably priced which has me excited but also cautious. I like the sporty look of them and the fact that they are kind of the spiritual successor to the CR-X but with a hybrid twist. At the same time they lack power, however I saw that Jackson Racing makes a bolt on supercharger that I might consider later down the road should I get the car.
You realise hybrids do nothing for you...on the interstate.

I'd buy a Jetta/Golf/Rabbit TDI. (I've had BMW and Volvo diesels)
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What is wrong with what you got?

The Focus with original FordTouch is meh(the car itself is great).

The first year 6-speed "automated manual" are wonky(but so are the ones from BMW, VW etc...)

True story...

I bought my SHO in 92 from a friend's grandmother(81 when she bought it. Always owned fast cars...). Had under 30,000.

By the time it hit 80k...

7 sets of front tires.
CV replaced twice.
Struts at 50k
Clutch
Front pads twice
Rear pads once
Front calipers/rotors

Since? (bought a Supra Turbo and a Mustang GT. Had all three from 95-2001)

Routine. But...for those 6 years...it was the slowest car I had.

(I've never had to have a car loan or mortgage though...)
I had a 2000 Camry from 2008-May this year but the engine gave out twice and the transmission also went out so I gave up on it. After taking it back to that mechanic 3 times and he still couldn't figure out where the oil was going, I should've asked someone else. That's another reason I said no to the Lexus. I imagine they want to sell it quickly but I want to wait till January or March. That way I can not only afford a monthly car payment and monthly expenses but also take the thing in regularly for routine maintenance and part replacement. If it comes to it I might get a Focus anyway, that was the one thing my father said today that I agree with. In the end it's my $ and I need to get the car I feel comfortable getting, even if it's not a car he would get.
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I need another car soon but first I need to get into a better place financially. Cars I am considering in my price range -
2013 Volkswagen Jetta
2012 Nissan Sentra
2014 Nissan Versa
I want a car that will be economical to maintain and will last me(with some good maintenance and a bit of luck) about 10-12 years. It's the biggest reason I keep saying no to that 60,000 mile 2006 Lexus my sister is trying to sell me. Really leaning towards the Jetta, my father's insistence that the car costs as much as a Mercedes to maintain is giving me pause.
I bought a 2009 Honda Civic EX with 16,000 miles on it back in 2011 for $14,000 and it's been perfect for me and has only required routine maintenance. It has almost 80,000 miles on it now.

I've owned 7 cars and 6 have been Hondas, from a 1985 Accord with 270,000 miles on it, to my current Civic, I've never regretted owning any of them.
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I bought a 2009 Honda Civic EX with 16,000 miles on it back in 2011 for $14,000 and it's been perfect for me and has only required routine maintenance. It has almost 80,000 miles on it now.

I've owned 7 cars and 6 have been Hondas, from a 1985 Accord with 270,000 miles on it, to my current Civic, I've never regretted owning any of them.
I gotta say I really want to see what German engineering is all about but I am learning towards a Civic right now. Even if I have to get one that's 4-5 years old, those things last and I don't need a 4 door car anyway. Have a feeling if I buy a Civic I will be saving a lot on gas(not that that's really a factor right now due to minimal daily commute) and happy about the handling and whatnot. I'd be more excited about getting a newer car if it were closer than January or March.
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You realise hybrids do nothing for you...on the interstate.

I'd buy a Jetta/Golf/Rabbit TDI. (I've had BMW and Volvo diesels)
How so? I've never had one and relatively new to hybrids.
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How so? I've never had one and relatively new to hybrids.
Hybrids rely on regenerative braking.

So...unless you bought a plug-in...

Hybrids are useless on constant speed trips.
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Hybrids rely on regenerative braking.

So...unless you bought a plug-in...

Hybrids are useless on constant speed trips.
Interesting. I'm not on the interstate but it's more or less a straight shot. I guess I would be better off getting something else. I like hatchbacks so maybe I'll go the VW route.
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Definitely looks like a Honda Civic, imagine that pisses off people in my family who own much older cars than the one I'll get. Oh well, definitely need to remember not to loan it to others or eat inside it. Oh and to get it super detailed inside before I start driving it.
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