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Old 10-04-2017, 02:58 AM   #2021
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I can live with the no 3D blu in the US, I would only hit the panic button if it starts to fade away internationally.
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Old 10-04-2017, 03:02 AM   #2022
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I disagree with this. Wonder Woman was a disappointment for sure in terms of 3D, but most of the 3D films I've seen this year have been amazing. Kong:Skull Island, Dr Strange, Ghost in the Shell, Guardians of the Galaxy 2 and Valerian were all outstanding in 3D.



Can't agree with this either. Firstly, vintage 3D is coming fast and furious on blu-ray. I've been buying new 3D vintage titles pretty regularly for the past several months.

Secondly, killing 3D momentum will not help it. Dropping home 3D support is a bad idea and will just make it more difficult to try and bring it back later. The technology is already here and works wonderfully. Why drop it and start over? If they want to work on glasses-free 3D (which is a long way off because it will require at least 8k sets minimum to pull off) then fine. But that doesn't mean we should do without for years. I have a large collection of 3D titles and I want to be able to watch them tomorrow, next year, and in 5 years. I don't want to have to wait another 10 years before I can watch my 3D movies again. The smartest thing the manufacturers can do is bring back 3D support in some of their mid-to-high-end sets next year, and gain a bit of our trust back. Hollywood is not going to stop making 3D films. It makes them too much money in the theatres. And the theatres have invested a ton of money for the ability to carry 3D titles. Releasing 3D theatrically but not on home video, when we used to have the ability to buy 3D for our home, is not what I call progression.
My thought was more the theatrical/conversion end of things, which seems rather separate from the home release side of things, especially catalog. It's kind of depressing to see this thing linger on life support, and sit through lame conversion after lame conversion which may or may not even hit video, with a constantly demonstrated lack of commitment and attention from filmmakers, studios and retail.
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When Ghost in the Shell (which I thought looked OK for a conversion) and GOTG 2 (which I thought was maybe a little bit less pointless than the typical weak Disney conversion) are praised as great 3D I feel like the bar just gets lower and lower all the time.
what do you consider "better" 3D than those 2?
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Old 10-04-2017, 04:45 AM   #2024
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what do you consider "better" 3D than those 2?
For older films I've seen recently, Gun Fury, for newer films I've seen recently, Prometheus and Silent Hill Revelation. SHR is a terrible movie but it looks fantastic.

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Old 10-04-2017, 05:11 AM   #2025
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Prometheus has much weaker 3D than Guardians of the Galaxy 2, even if Prometheus is native there's no contest between the two.
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Old 10-04-2017, 05:14 AM   #2026
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Prometheus has much weaker 3D than Guardians of the Galaxy 2, even if Prometheus is native there's no contest between the two.
I found the depth-of-staging in Prometheus to be really impressive. Like when there's a hole in the cave wall in the shot where we're introduced to Noomi Rapace. GOTG 2 is a very nice looking movie but I didn't find its use of 3D to be exceptional unlike most. Better than the typical pointless Disney conversion (like Civil War), but I never felt like it imparted a visceral sense of space. Maybe I need to revisit it.

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Nevertheless Prometheus has much weaker 3D.
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Old 10-04-2017, 06:10 AM   #2028
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I'll just buy the imports like beauty and the beast, the mummy, pirates of the Caribbean, terminator 2, the Great Wall, the Finest Hours, etc just like i always have. Whether they have to come from India, Korea or the UK, I'll get them.

They'll be there for the most part for north American buyers. I doubt the industry will stop with all region or region A discs in an international market.

Note to instacredt: can find all region copies of despicable me 3 on eBay. I just checked.

So I don't think we need to panic yet. The world will save us.
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Old 10-04-2017, 11:00 AM   #2029
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This thread was created more to keep track of what studios are still supporting 3d and to measure and speculate how much time is left before all the studios stop supporting 3d bluray.
You should have created this thread in the 3D Technology, News and General Discussion forum, not in the movies forum. I'm sick of seeing these discussions here.
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For older films I've seen recently, Gun Fury, for newer films I've seen recently, Prometheus and Silent Hill Revelation. SHR is a terrible movie but it looks fantastic.
Prometheus had absolutely weak 3D compared to both Ghost in the Shell and Guardians of the Galaxy 2. A strong conversion is better than a weak natively-shot title.
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Old 10-04-2017, 06:48 PM   #2031
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I can live with the no 3D blu in the US, I would only hit the panic button if it starts to fade away internationally.
Unfortunately with no hardware support from set manufacturers...it is only a matter of time international releases will dry up. I'm crossing my fingers that VR can help turn the tide some, and set manufacturers re-adopt 3D capability in at least their high-end units so we still can get 3D Blu releases. A lot of money is backing VR in hopes the masses will pick it up but the outlook there is also less-than rosy.

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Old 10-04-2017, 07:53 PM   #2032
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FYI: There likely will be a 3D release of Despicable Me 3 in the United States. From the press release:

TECHNICAL INFORMATION – 3D BLU-RAY:
Street Date: December 5, 2017
Copyright: 2017 Universal Pictures Home Entertainment. All Rights Reserved.
Selection Number: 61180677 (US)/ 61180675 (CDN)
Running Time: 1 hour, 29 minutes
Layers: BD-50
Aspect Ratio: Widescreen 2.40:1
Rating: PG for action and rude humor
Video: 1080p High-Definition
Sound: English DTS:X, Dolby Digital 2.0 and DTS-HD High Resolution Audio 7.1, French DTS Digital Surround 5.1, Spanish DTS-HD High Resolution Audio 7.1
Language/Subtitles English SDH, French and Spanish

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Old 10-04-2017, 10:16 PM   #2033
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So, home 3-D dies.

Looking ahead, the next 3-D revival will most likely arrive with different technology/equipment, making any current investment in home 3-D technology very much a dodo bird sooner than later?
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So, home 3-D dies.

Looking ahead, the next 3-D revival will most likely arrive with different technology/equipment, making any current investment in home 3-D technology very much a dodo bird sooner than later?
As long as that new technology supports Blu-ray 3D, I say bring it on.
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As long as that new technology supports Blu-ray 3D, I say bring it on.
Well, I imagine that the next home video 3-D revival will be, what, probably a decade (at least) from now? So, who knows how home entertainment will be by then. Maybe streaming will have won the day and hard copy home media will be a niche market altogether.

I don't understand why the current manufacturers don't just produce a small number of 3-D capable sets, perhaps even on demand. As I understand it, many sets currently on the showroom floors could easily have 3-D, at no additional cost to the manufacturer.
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Well, I imagine that the next home video 3-D revival will be, what, probably a decade (at least) from now? So, who knows how home entertainment will be by then. Maybe streaming will have won the day and hard copy home media will be a niche market altogether.

I don't understand why the current manufacturers don't just produce a small number of 3-D capable sets, perhaps even on demand. As I understand it, many sets currently on the showroom floors could easily have 3-D, at no additional cost to the manufacturer.
I agree and I and others have put that question to TV manufacturers also with no reply whatsoever. For companies that rely on customers to stay afloat, I find them too smug, secretive and withhold too much info from their customers. Why can't they address us face to face about the question of "how about a couple of 3D TVs please sir" I know all companies do that to some extent but over the years that has always been in the back of my mind with set manufacturers. I hate every last one of them for leaving us in a lurch. One nice line (with a set at least 75" at the and) of passive OLED 3D TVs is all we are asking.

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Old 10-05-2017, 01:09 AM   #2037
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I bet Avatar 2 will bring on a resurgence
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Well, I imagine that the next home video 3-D revival will be, what, probably a decade (at least) from now? So, who knows how home entertainment will be by then. Maybe streaming will have won the day and hard copy home media will be a niche market altogether.

I don't understand why the current manufacturers don't just produce a small number of 3-D capable sets, perhaps even on demand. As I understand it, many sets currently on the showroom floors could easily have 3-D, at no additional cost to the manufacturer.
We don't know that they won't in 2018.
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Old 10-05-2017, 09:38 AM   #2039
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Just buy a new 3D tv as a standby and things should be fine for the next few years. Even if it is a 1080p model with 3D. Still som vintage titles getting released through next year and beyond.
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Just buy a new 3D tv as a standby and things should be fine for the next few years. Even if it is a 1080p model with 3D. Still som vintage titles getting released through next year and beyond.
Or get a PJ. Even one of the 3 new Sony 4K/3D projectors is about the same price as a 4k-Only 65" OLED
panel set. Or wait till next year and see if it returns to any models.
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