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Old 11-19-2018, 04:20 PM   #41
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As so-so as the Shout Factory Blu-ray was, the old Blu-ray from First Look Studios was even more disappointing, anyone remember that old Blu-ray release with picture quality so subpar a DVD would look better?
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Old 11-19-2018, 08:14 PM   #42
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As so-so as the Shout Factory Blu-ray was, the old Blu-ray from First Look Studios was even more disappointing, anyone remember that old Blu-ray release with picture quality so subpar a DVD would look better?
I’ve heard of it but have never owned it to watch it. I’m sure my DVD is still better quality.
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Old 11-20-2018, 12:01 AM   #43
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As so-so as the Shout Factory Blu-ray was, the old Blu-ray from First Look Studios was even more disappointing, anyone remember that old Blu-ray release with picture quality so subpar a DVD would look better?
Totally disagree. I started to watch the SF, and five minutes in, I switched to the First Look. I haven't seen the UK DVD, but I thought the First Look blu-ray looked slightly better than the US DVD in motion. Anyways, just my opinion. Both current releases are obviously subpar, and I have high hopes for this new one.
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Old 11-20-2018, 07:05 PM   #44
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I’m sure it will look miles better in 4K (better than what we’ve got) but I don’t think it will ever look amazing as it was filmed in 16mm. Maybe I’m wrong who knows! I’ll still get it. Haha.
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Old 11-20-2018, 08:25 PM   #45
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Totally disagree. I started to watch the SF, and five minutes in, I switched to the First Look. I haven't seen the UK DVD, but I thought the First Look blu-ray looked slightly better than the US DVD in motion. Anyways, just my opinion. Both current releases are obviously subpar, and I have high hopes for this new one.
Yep, totally
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Old 11-20-2018, 10:01 PM   #46
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I'm all for this but I'd rather have The Descent in 4K, tbh. Hope that happens next.
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Old 11-20-2018, 10:07 PM   #47
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I’m sure it will look miles better in 4K (better than what we’ve got) but I don’t think it will ever look amazing as it was filmed in 16mm. Maybe I’m wrong who knows! I’ll still get it. Haha.
16mm can look fantastic.
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Old 11-21-2018, 08:09 PM   #48
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I went ahead and pre-ordered on Amazon.de hopefully we see some screen caps before it ships but I do have the old Artisan DVD never did upgrade to bluray.
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Old 11-21-2018, 11:03 PM   #49
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I'm amazed they even managed to lose the OCN considering the age of the film. Ridiculous how something as important as that gets lost so quickly. Pumped for this though. I still watch the old UK DVD and yeah, as others have said it actually looks pretty good for a 16 years old release.
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I'm amazed they even managed to lose the OCN considering the age of the film. Ridiculous how something as important as that gets lost so quickly. Pumped for this though. I still watch the old UK DVD and yeah, as others have said it actually looks pretty good for a 16 years old release.
The movie was a VERY low-budget cheapy with a patchwork of finance and shot in Eastern Europe IIRC, so I'm not surprised at all that it got lost. That the movie had to be blown up to 35mm for theatrical exhibition didn't help because once the blow-up was done it's those elements that became more important in actually getting the movie out there while the 16mm was vaulted. Same thing happened to, say, Last House on the Left some 40-odd years ago, all they can find is the 35mm blow-ups so we're lucky that someone struck gold on Dog Soldiers.
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The movie was a VERY low-budget cheapy with a patchwork of finance and shot in Eastern Europe IIRC, so I'm not surprised at all that it got lost. That the movie had to be blown up to 35mm for theatrical exhibition didn't help because once the blow-up was done it's those elements that became more important in actually getting the movie out there while the 16mm was vaulted. Same thing happened to, say, Last House on the Left some 40-odd years ago, all they can find is the 35mm blow-ups so we're lucky that someone struck gold on Dog Soldiers.
Same goes for The Hills Have Eyes from memory
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Old 12-06-2018, 06:52 PM   #52
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Right; that's it ordered... cheering myself up; hopefully it'll have a significantly improved transfer (best it CAN be given the limitations of whatever they're working with - presumably better then what anyone has had until now, anyway!) and all previous extras - given it has a 4K, a BD and 2 DVDs in there I can't see how they couldn't find space or why they'd need a whole etra DVD if they didn't have all the outtakes and deleted scnes as well as what they've announced.

Now to wait patiently... I'm sooo good at that, NOT!
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Old 12-07-2018, 10:43 AM   #53
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The movie was a VERY low-budget cheapy with a patchwork of finance and shot in Eastern Europe IIRC, so I'm not surprised at all that it got lost. That the movie had to be blown up to 35mm for theatrical exhibition didn't help because once the blow-up was done it's those elements that became more important in actually getting the movie out there while the 16mm was vaulted. Same thing happened to, say, Last House on the Left some 40-odd years ago, all they can find is the 35mm blow-ups so we're lucky that someone struck gold on Dog Soldiers.
How would this have originally made its way to DVD Geoff? What source would they have used? I'm still clueless when it comes to all this stuff.
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Great news. I hope it really is legimate new 2160p transfer from OCN as advertised.

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I'll take it either way, as long as it's a brand new transfer from the OG 16mm neg with a competent clean-up & encode then I'm sold.
Yes, and if SDR please put it on disc in 10 bit.

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Old 12-07-2018, 03:02 PM   #55
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How would this have originally made its way to DVD Geoff? What source would they have used? I'm still clueless when it comes to all this stuff.
AIUI they shot in 16mm then (so it could be shown in cinemas) blown up and transferred it to 35mm prints for cinema projection - the cinema prints do the rounds and get battered about quite a bit even though there are quite a few of them.

I don't know if the DVD was made from the original 16mm neg or a 35mm print but I believe certainly by the time it came to make a Blu-ray they only had the blown up prints to work from - and not good ones at that.
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It'll be interesting to see how this looks. I'm kinda used to it looking all beat up and dirty, it suits the movie well.
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How would this have originally made its way to DVD Geoff? What source would they have used? I'm still clueless when it comes to all this stuff.
I honestly don't know for sure, probably a transfer from a 16mm IP. This is while the film was new and they still had access to these 16mm pre-print elements, of course. For as Voltaire said...

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AIUI they shot in 16mm then (so it could be shown in cinemas) blown up and transferred it to 35mm prints for cinema projection - the cinema prints do the rounds and get battered about quite a bit even though there are quite a few of them.

I don't know if the DVD was made from the original 16mm neg or a 35mm print but I believe certainly by the time it came to make a Blu-ray they only had the blown up prints to work from - and not good ones at that.
...the most recent Blu-ray from Shout literally only had 35mm release prints to work from, and not very good ones at that.
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Old 01-20-2019, 11:41 PM   #58
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It'll be interesting to see how this looks. I'm kinda used to it looking all beat up and dirty, it suits the movie well.
Yeah I liked the ugly look of the Shout in a weird way. Didn't stop me selling it when this was announced though. Got $25 for it too, thanks to the slipcover, so this is a nice cheap upgrade now.
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Ooooohh lovely, great news! That Scream Factory release was so bloody disappointing, way too uneven. The original blu ray was overall better IMO, I have that and the DVD release at the moment. A decent UHD would be fantastic, it's such a great movie and deserves better care.
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I got an email today, this release is delayed:-

Wir bitten um Ihr Verständnis: Leider hat sich das Erscheinungsdatum für den oder die unten aufgeführten Artikel aus Ihrer Bestellung vom 20. Dezember 2018 geändert und damit auch das voraussichtliche Lieferdatum:

"Dog Soldiers - Mediabook (4K Ultra HD) (+ Blu-ray 2D) (+ DVD) (+ Bonus-DVD)"
Voraussichtliches Lieferdatum: 20. März 2019 - 21. März 2019.

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We ask for your understanding: Unfortunately, the release date for the item (s) listed below has changed from your order dated December 20, 2018, and therefore the expected delivery date:

"Dog Soldiers - Mediabook (4K Ultra HD) (+ Blu-ray 2D) (+ DVD) (+ Bonus DVD)"
Estimated delivery date: March 20, 2019 - March 21, 2019
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