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Old 06-28-2008, 01:48 AM   #21
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I forgot all about Cinepro - they make killer amps for HT! I'm also looking at your sig - you have some nice vintage gear down there (Polk RTA-15's back when Polk was still in the High-End, 18 Inch woofers in the Def Tech 2000's, Carver amplification - my type of system ) Off topic - why did you go with a ML center channel and Bose 901's for the rears? (I assume you went with the 901's for their direct reflecting abilities - actually well suited for surround duties - and this is from someone who has no like for Bose, but it makes sense). But the ML? Does it stick out from the rest of the front array timbre wise?

I have been a high-end audio nut since Thomas Edison invented the phonograph.

Actually, I have two center speakers. A Definitive Technology and a Martin Logan. The combination makes my center channel as good as it gets. I have a couple of old equalizers and the timbre is as closely matched as possible. The Bose 901's are the only good speakers that Bose ever made. Their design goes back to the 1960s-1970s when Mr. Bose was still a University Professor. Each one has 9 drivers and they completely fill the room. They cost over a $1,000. I had them and I decided to use them for my rear channels in my 8.4 (2 center channels + 2 fronts+ 2 Surrounds + 2 Rears + 2 Hsu Subs + 2 Built-in subs in Def. Techs.) setup. I use the Cinepro and the Carver amps to drive the speakers. My Denon Receiver is primarily used as a preamp/processor. Thank god my house is a bit isolated. Otherwise, my neighbors would have had me arrested by now for causing earthquakes in Southern California.

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Old 06-28-2008, 02:36 AM   #22
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I have been a high-end audio nut since Thomas Edison invented the phonograph.

Actually, I have two center speakers. A Definitive Technology and a Martin Logan. The combination makes my center channel as good as it gets. I have a couple of old equalizers and the timbre is as closely matched as possible. The Bose 901's are the only good speakers that Bose ever made. Their design goes back to the 1960s-1970s when Mr. Bose was still a University Professor. Each one has 9 drivers and they completely fill the room. They cost over a $1,000. I had them and I decided to use them for my rear channels in my 8.4 (2 center channels + 2 fronts+ 2 Surrounds + 2 Rears + 2 Hsu Subs + 2 Built-in subs in Def. Techs.) setup. I use the Cinepro and the Carver amps to drive the speakers. My Denon Receiver is primarily used as a preamp/processor. Thank god my house is a bit isolated. Otherwise, my neighbors would have had me arrested by now for causing earthquakes in Southern California.
Ah-ha....you equalize your center channel - ok, now I get it. I used to do that also before I went to identical speakers across the front. I posted my system in the Home Theater Pic's thread. I can see how that would work now. You have a very powerful and dynamic HT. Keep on enjoying it.
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Ah-ha....you equalize your center channel - ok, now I get it. I used to do that also before I went to identical speakers across the front. I posted my system in the Home Theater Pic's thread. I can see how that would work now. You have a very powerful and dynamic HT. Keep on enjoying it.
Your system isn't bad either. I like the old Infinity Kappas and Snell also makes great speakers. I remember Infinity used to make unbelievably large speakers a few years ago. I believe they were designed by Arnie Nudell. I saw them demonstrated at a high-end show. I was tempted to buy them, but they were too expensive.

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Your system isn't bad either. I like the old Infinity Kappas and Snell also makes great speakers. I remember Infinity used to make unbelievably large speakers a few years ago. I believe they were designed by Arnie Nudell. I saw them demonstrated at a high-end show. I was tempted to buy them, but they were too expensive.
Yes, Nudell designs where the hey-day of Infinity (mine were designed by him). My Snells are the last ones designed by Peter Snell himself (before he had a heart attack on the plant floor). They are now the template for the famed Audio Note AN/E series speakers.
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Yes, Nudell designs where the hey-day of Infinity (mine were designed by him). My Snells are the last ones designed by Peter Snell himself (before he had a heart attack on the plant floor). They are now the template for the famed Audio Note AN/E series speakers.

I don't know who design the speakers but my first speakers were Infinity Modulus (Satellite + Powered Sub). It looked really nice & look expensive even though I only paid around $1000 brand new (retail was $3000 for the system).
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[QUOTE=Big Daddy;984576]
Actually, I have two center speakers. A Definitive Technology and a Martin Logan. The combination makes my center channel as good as it gets.[QUOTE]

Is there a possibility the B&W HTM1D is as good as a center gets?

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I forgot all about Cinepro - they make killer amps for HT! I'm also looking at your sig - you have some nice vintage gear down there (Polk RTA-15's back when Polk was still in the High-End, 18 Inch woofers in the Def Tech 2000's, Carver amplification - my type of system ) Off topic - why did you go with a ML center channel and Bose 901's for the rears? (I assume you went with the 901's for their direct reflecting abilities - actually well suited for surround duties - and this is from someone who has no like for Bose, but it makes sense). But the ML? Does it stick out from the rest of the front array timbre wise?
I have an SAE A501 that I bought at a pawn shop for 350 bucks I see them on ebay from time to time. I am always looking for it's big brother the SAE A1001. These amps were american made at a time when that was still a good thing.
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Is there a possibility the B&W HTM1D is as good as a center gets?
B&W makes excellent and very expensive speakers. I am sure you know that speaker quality is a very subjective matter. My point simply was that the combination of a top-of-the-line Definitive Technology and a top-of-the-line Martin Logan center speakers will give you excellent results for home theater applications. Other center channel speakers will give you different sound, but not necessarily better sound.

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Old 06-28-2008, 01:37 PM   #29
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The best stereo amp that I have personally heard was a pair of Ayre MX-R monoblocks paired with B&W Nautilus wired with Transparent Audio Opus MM. Now, the speakers and cabling might have something to do with it, but the amps themselves were also spectacular.

Another amp in the stratospheric category that I have not heard, but have read many reviews and personal accounts of, are the Lamm ML3's paired with Wilson Audio Alexandria X-2's. Then again, for an amp pair that costs in excess of 120k (much less the X-2's which are also about 120k/pair), they better sound freakin' spectacular.

Bottom line: each listener will find something a bit different to like, but overall I feel that, yes, there are better amps out there than the Macs.
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[QUOTE=Gremal;984811][QUOTE=Big Daddy;984576]
Actually, I have two center speakers. A Definitive Technology and a Martin Logan. The combination makes my center channel as good as it gets.
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Is there a possibility the B&W HTM1D is as good as a center gets?

You know thats a great center channel I would put the Wilson Watch up against it though!
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I have an SAE A501 that I bought at a pawn shop for 350 bucks I see them on ebay from time to time. I am always looking for it's big brother the SAE A1001. These amps were american made at a time when that was still a good thing.
Yes, I remember them when I was oversees in the Military. Great amps!
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I don't know who design the speakers but my first speakers were Infinity Modulus (Satellite + Powered Sub). It looked really nice & look expensive even though I only paid around $1000 brand new (retail was $3000 for the system).
If its the original Modulus - yes its designed by Nudell as well
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What does cost have to do with anything? I'll throw some particle board together to make an enclosure, run to radio shack, get the crossovers, etc..... and find some woofers/tweeters and make a "one of a kind" custom, center channel speaker...... I'll put it on ebay for $100,000 (free shipping) I guess that makes what I make better than the HTM1 and all other speakers costing less????
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Wow this thread got off the rails.

Best? - no clue but after several reboots I settled on a pair McIntosh MC2102 and a single (bridged) MC275 all with some personal tube upgrades. It's a nice balance with my Paradigm Sigs. As for center, and I'm embarrassed to admit, I picked up the Sig C5 because it was matched to my R/Ls and Servo Sub. I haven't regretted it.
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What does cost have to do with anything? I'll throw some particle board together to make an enclosure, run to radio shack, get the crossovers, etc..... and find some woofers/tweeters and make a "one of a kind" custom, center channel speaker...... I'll put it on ebay for $100,000 (free shipping) I guess that makes what I make better than the HTM1 and all other speakers costing less????
I am shocked and surprised at your comment. I simply stated the prices for the the sake of those who may be interested in buying the speakers. Generally, when I see an interesting product, I would like to know the price.
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All I can say is wow.
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If its the original Modulus - yes its designed by Nudell as well
Yes, it's the original modulus.

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You know thats a great center channel I would put the Wilson Watch up against it though!

or Dynaudio Evidence center

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Yes, Nudell designs where the hey-day of Infinity (mine were designed by him). My Snells are the last ones designed by Peter Snell himself (before he had a heart attack on the plant floor). They are now the template for the famed Audio Note AN/E series speakers.
I remember Snells were always billed as having the most natural and room filling bass response of speakers being put to the test (old Audio/Video Interiors, issue from the early-90's). No subwoofer needed. Keep in mind that this was before .1 LFE for home.

Snell subs were also very unique in the sense that their high-end subs were passive and THX certified.

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