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Old 12-12-2010, 09:54 PM   #41
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interesting conversation lol. im currently looking to upgrade my 37in toshiba regza lcd tv. was thinking of sticking with an lcd as thats obv what i have, but i want the best pq quality i can get for watching sports and blu ray movies. i thought plasma suffered from motion lag and ghosting when it comes to sports? is that true?

also you guys are saying plasma is best for 3d. what if im not interested really in all the 3d jazz right now. what would be the best tv for just high definition awesomeness, watching football, and playing my 360? im looking for a 50-55 inch if that matters as well.
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Old 12-13-2010, 05:06 AM   #42
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I'm not sure,but how does this tv look when properly calibrated and not in the "torch" mode you guys seem to hate?
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Old 12-13-2010, 05:11 AM   #43
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The places where I go like SEARS, HH Greg and Best Buy have the lighting turned down low where the TV's are.
Granted i have never been in a hh greg but bb and sears do not adjust their lighting. With the exception of a magnolia and only in the enclosed rooms where they can dim lighting. The ambient lighting from the store lights bleed into the so called darken area of the tv displays.

Most movie watching is done at night with most lights out or possible some backlighting behind the tv. You think that lighting in the store compares to home enviroment? Sure it does.

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Old 12-13-2010, 05:14 AM   #44
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interesting conversation lol. im currently looking to upgrade my 37in toshiba regza lcd tv. was thinking of sticking with an lcd as thats obv what i have, but i want the best pq quality i can get for watching sports and blu ray movies. i thought plasma suffered from motion lag and ghosting when it comes to sports? is that true?also you guys are saying plasma is best for 3d. what if im not interested really in all the 3d jazz right now. what would be the best tv for just high definition awesomeness, watching football, and playing my 360? im looking for a 50-55 inch if that matters as well.
that is NOT TRUE
plasma is very good for sports
i have had friends who own led tv's comment how awesome my picture looks for sports
and if you aren't into 3D don't worry, the blue ray pic is awesome also
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Old 12-13-2010, 05:18 AM   #45
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interesting conversation lol. im currently looking to upgrade my 37in toshiba regza lcd tv. was thinking of sticking with an lcd as thats obv what i have, but i want the best pq quality i can get for watching sports and blu ray movies. i thought plasma suffered from motion lag and ghosting when it comes to sports? is that true?

also you guys are saying plasma is best for 3d. what if im not interested really in all the 3d jazz right now. what would be the best tv for just high definition awesomeness, watching football, and playing my 360? im looking for a 50-55 inch if that matters as well.
Best tv currently being made is the panasonic vt25. Out of most top 10 best tvs list 6 or more are usually plasma with the the first 4 out of 5 being plasma. Never had any problem with any motion lag. It is a non issue with plasma for the most part. LCD on the other hand it is a problem. Thats why you have 120 and 240hz to help keep up with plasma motion. I personally don't like the plastically, cartoonish, video game look of Led's. Great if your watching a cartoon, sucks if you watch movies and like to have your picture as close to reference quality.

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Best tv currently being made is the panasonic vt25. Out of most top 10 best tvs list 6 or more are usually plasma with the the first 4 out of 5 being plasma. Never had any problem with any motion lag. It is a non issue with plasma for the most part. LCD on the other hand it is a problem Thats why you have 120 and 240hz to help keep up with plasma motion. I personally don't like the plastically, cartoonish, video game look of Led's. Great if your watching a cartoon sucks if you watch movies and like to have your picture as close to reference quality.
well said
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Old 12-14-2010, 12:50 AM   #47
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This is the best looking tv I've ever seen. Plasmas looked like crap compared. I looked at all the surrounding plasmas from Samsung, Pioneer and the rest and they were all fifth best,because places 1-4 all go to the Samsung LED LCD tv. Looks like I'm saving up for a 65" Samsung 3D LED LCD tv. For a second I thought it was in 3D w/out the requirement for glasses.
LED/LCD's beating a Kuro? You've lost your marbles
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Old 12-14-2010, 03:36 AM   #48
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none of the plasmas had hat realism factor like the LED had. If I have to choose between a tv that looks like I'm looking through a window and a plasma that isn't as life-like, I'm choosing the one that looks like real life.
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yes yes...please...more misinformation...keep it coming...im enjoying every minute of this
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Old 12-14-2010, 06:39 AM   #50
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contrast ratio on Samsung LED blows the VT25 out of the water:

http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-e...702#tabsection

http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/...XFXZA-features
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contrast ratio on Samsung LED blows the VT25 out of the water:
and you shouldn't watch your tv in the water

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Old 12-14-2010, 03:27 PM   #52
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and you shouldn't watch your tv in the water
But what if you have one of these:

http://hd.engadget.com/2008/09/13/pa...r-tv-consoles/
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Old 12-14-2010, 04:29 PM   #53
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If I had one of those it would be an LCD, since that's what type of tv it says it is.
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Old 12-14-2010, 04:35 PM   #54
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug75diEyiA0

Wow, I said the same thing when I saw the VT25...ha ha
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Old 12-14-2010, 07:14 PM   #55
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LOL, dynamic contrast ratio is single-handedly the most MEANINGLESS spec of a television.

Find out the ANSI contrast measurements of both and you'll have a more meaninful measure of contrast.
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Old 12-14-2010, 07:20 PM   #56
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LOL, dynamic contrast ratio is single-handedly the most MEANINGLESS spec of a television.

Find out the ANSI contrast measurements of both and you'll have a more meaninful measure of contrast.
+1 Contrast ratio is overhyped but it has some meaning behind it.
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Dynamic contrast ratio means nothing.
ANSI contrast ratio is very important.
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Old 12-14-2010, 08:07 PM   #58
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I see
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Old 12-15-2010, 03:29 AM   #60
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http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-t...contentBody;1r

Pros: Panasonic black level, only thing he can say. then he finds out a few months later that the black level drops off to a lower point and still stay with his panasonic choise.

Cons: Samsung, clearly beats the Panny in every cat that matters except for a free pair of glasses and as a new tv according the the bias editor, the black level, that by Pann own addmis drops off. Say nothing about the cost dif and 1 4th the thickness dif

Summary: Editor is clearly Panansonic bias, the Samsung wins in EVERY Cat. that matters in the long run, unless you want the Panny for 3 months when the only condition for winning drops off. I can take nothing that this person says about any review serious anymore, he is so far ...


Read more: http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-t...#ixzz189DAdLXo
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