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ScarredLungs · 03-24-2019, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt S

I won't say more then.....minor spoilers only but still

So, not sure how i've gone this long without realizing, but pushing R1 will do the attack, holding R1 will do a more powerful attack....

Trying to get a boss, and it makes a huge difference

Yes, I just noticed this yesterday. I'm at my first full boss as well.

DMC86X · 03-25-2019, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Derb

It’s an Xbox Software problem. You are getting black crush. Until a firmware releases to resolve this, kinda sol.

Luckily Microsoft refunded me for my store purchase. I’m getting it for ps4 pro.

Edit: it literally looks 10 times better on ps4 pro.No issues with “black crush” at all. Is this normal or is my Xbox one messed up?

Derb · 03-25-2019, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DMC86X

Luckily Microsoft refunded me for my store purchase. I’m getting it for ps4 pro.

Edit: it literally looks 10 times better on ps4 pro.No issues with “black crush” at all. Is this normal or is my Xbox one messed up?

This problem happens on a number of titles. More recently, Metro Exodus suffered from it. I bought & played that whole game on Xbox One X. It didn’t bother me that much on my SDR display + that game ran at native 4K.

Edit,

Sekiro apparently has better fps on a 120hz display. It sees big dips in performance running on 60hz displays. Also frame pacing is still an issue on base PS4 & Xbox One.

DMC86X · 03-25-2019, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Derb

This problem happens on a number of titles. More recently, Metro Exodus suffered from it. I bought & played that whole game on Xbox One X. It didn’t bother me that much on my SDR display + that game ran at native 4K.

Edit,

Sekiro apparently has better fps on a 120hz display. It sees big dips in performance running on 60hz displays. Also frame pacing is still an issue on base PS4 & Xbox One.

I notice the black crush that you were talking about big time when I watch Netflix on my Xbox one x but hardly ever on my ps4 pro or even my Apple TV 4K. I’ve never seen it happen on a game ever until I got sekiro. But I haven’t seen it at all playing the game on ps4 pro. Also I’m finding the combat a tad bit easier on ps4. I’m thinking it has to do with the sensitivity of the lb and rb buttons compared to l1 and r1. I don’t know it just seems I’m getting the timing down a lot easier now.

Derb · 03-25-2019, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DMC86X

I notice the black crush that you were talking about big time when I watch Netflix on my Xbox one x but hardly ever on my ps4 pro or even my Apple TV 4K. I’ve never seen it happen on a game ever until I got sekiro. But I haven’t seen it at all playing the game on ps4 pro. Also I’m finding the combat a tad bit easier on ps4. I’m thinking it has to do with the sensitivity of the lb and rb buttons compared to l1 and r1. I don’t know it just seems I’m getting the timing down a lot easier now.

Ok, yeah it’s clearly a firmware issue on the console. There are too many video options on it as well imo. I remember it took the help from this forum to get native 4K from Netflix & UHD Blu-ray.

ScarredLungs · 03-25-2019, 04:21 PM

After my first weekend with this game, I love it. I am have been trying to take my time and try not to miss things. I know I have probably missed a ton.

I've only made it past the first boss. I have beaten 5 bosses. (I think)

DMC86X · 03-25-2019, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ScarredLungs

After my first weekend with this game, I love it. I am have been trying to take my time and try not to miss things. I know I have probably missed a ton.

I've only made it past the first boss. I have beaten 5 bosses. (I think)

It’s so damn hard but I can’t quit lol.

ScarredLungs · 03-25-2019, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DMC86X

It’s so damn hard but I can’t quit lol.

Yup! This mini boss in on is killing me.

Matt S · 03-26-2019, 04:31 AM

This game feels a lot harder (to me) that prior 'Souls' games. Not that any of them are easy, but this one has so many mini-bosses, its just - hard!

Xbox got a 150mb or so update.......you all get on for PS4? Any ideas? (update, minor xbox-related update, nothing super awesome)

So, if anyone is struggling with the Lady Butterfly boss, switch to Nightjar Slash. Fills up her Posture meter fast.....

DMC86X · 03-26-2019, 09:12 PM

Any tips for the huge guy outside the burning temple with the huge poison sword?

VictoryAtNight · 03-26-2019, 09:59 PM

I am so tempted into wanting to buy this game. I like the way blood spurts out like a water fountain when killing the enemies.
The only thing that I am concerned about is the difficulty.

ScarredLungs · 03-27-2019, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by VictoryAtNight

I am so tempted into wanting to buy this game. I like the way blood spurts out like a water fountain when killing the enemies.
The only thing that I am concerned about is the difficulty.

Others have said. And I agree, it is probably harder than previous From Software games. That being said, I love it.

You can unlock skill trees and abilities easier. The game is made in such a way, that despite being very brutal, it is more accessible to a wider audience. I recommend it.

Derb · 03-27-2019, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by VictoryAtNight

I am so tempted into wanting to buy this game. I like the way blood spurts out like a water fountain when killing the enemies.
The only thing that I am concerned about is the difficulty.

If you can finish 8bit or 16bit SEGA games, than this should be a walk in the park.

MuP504 · 03-27-2019, 01:06 PM

get behind all the enemies and take them out one by one using the back walk way by the gate that gets blocked off when you fight him with the fog. Then when its just him and you, wait for him to get into position and slowly walk up from behind him and backstab which will take away one of his life portions with a death blow then just fight him straight up resurrect if you almost beat him but die

Mr. Thomsen · 03-27-2019, 02:49 PM

I have had a hard time getting adjusted to this - most likely amplified by my decision to play through Bloodborne again to get ready for the release.

This is so very different to the rest of the Soulsborne games. Or rather it is, and it isn't.

There are of course plenty of similarities. But what really has made it hard is the parrying system.

Like so many other Soulsborne fans, I have been used to dodging attacks and going for that perfectly timed parry, which is rewarded with a sound effect and the opportunity to land a riposte or visceral attack on the opponent, often killing him or at the very least taking a away a large chunk of his health.

This made me very frustrated with Sekiro. I never got good at parrying with shields in the Dark Souls series, and mostly used blocking and dodging. In Bloodborne, however, I was fairly proficient at it.

The main thing one has to realise with Sekiro is, parrying is a different beast here. Timing is still of importance, since perfectly timed parries built up the opponent's posture meter (which, when full, gives you the opportunity to land a death blow, even when his health bar is still full). But you will still parry or block at least some of damage, if you do not hit that sweet spot.

Unlike Dark Souls, you don't really get to do that one perfect parry/ riposte that kills your enemy in a single strong combo. Instead you built up your enemy's posture meter by multiple succesful parries until it is full - and then you get to do the death blow.

In fact, one of the fastest ways to built up an opponent's posture meter is to do multiple parries in a row, parrying every hack and slash in one of his attack combos. With some enemies, blocking every attack in a combo can instantly fill up their posture meter, in effect killing them.

It also took a long time to get used to the fact that dodging is much less useful here. The enemies' tracking is much better in Sekiro than in Dark Souls and Bloodborne. If you try to dodge around and attack, you will often see them turn in the attack and still hit you.

Basically, you have to approach Sekiro somewhat differently than Soulsborne. Like Bloodborne it pays off to be aggressive and in-your-face most of the time. But unlike Bloodborne, you really need to try to parry and block as much as possible instead of dodging attacks.

In fact, From Soft seems to want to teach us that blocking should be your go-to stance when fighting, as your own posture meter goes down much faster when you are blocking than when you are not.

I can really recommend using the training function with the undead guy back at the temple. I kinda skipped it, after doing the first three - dodging, attacking, deflecting - and only yesterday noticed that more advanced options open up along the way. Training multiple parries and against thrust attacks has been invaluable for my enjoyment of the game. I finally feel I am starting to get the combat system and see the fun in it.

ScarredLungs · 03-27-2019, 03:58 PM

This mini-boss will be the end of me. I am struggling more than I should I feel. I have had him down to about 10% health or so many times, and then I do something dumb and die, die and die again

This is guy I am on. Spoiler to block potential spoilers of upcoming mini-boss fights

[Show spoiler]

Matt S · 03-28-2019, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DMC86X

Any tips for the huge guy outside the burning temple with the huge poison sword?

Take out all the normal guys first.....use stealth for them......it'll draw him out, but that is ok. Hide behind the rock and you can sneak up on him, and take out one of his two health meters.

See if you have an antidote. couple different ones work. There is an NPC that will help, but take out all the normal guys before calling on him. Save him for the boss. Boss is straightforward. Dodge will work with him. Watch his movements. He is somewhat predicable

ScarredLungs · 03-28-2019, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt S

Take out all the normal guys first.....use stealth for them......it'll draw him out, but that is ok. Hide behind the rock and you can sneak up on him, and take out one of his two health meters.

See if you have an antidote. couple different ones work. There is an NPC that will help, but take out all the normal guys before calling on him. Save him for the boss. Boss is straightforward. Dodge will work with him. Watch his movements. He is somewhat predicable

Pretty much what I did.

ScarredLungs · 03-28-2019, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ScarredLungs

This mini-boss will be the end of me. I am struggling more than I should I feel. I have had him down to about 10% health or so many times, and then I do something dumb and die, die and die again

This is guy I am on. Spoiler to block potential spoilers of upcoming mini-boss fights

[Show spoiler]

I finally beat him! I still had my raging bell on. Turned that off and beat him first try.

Matt S · 03-28-2019, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ScarredLungs

I finally beat him! I still had my raging bell on. Turned that off and beat him first try.

Awesome. Raging bull? Is that an unlockable?

03-26-2019, 04:31 AM	#49
Matt S Blu-ray Guru Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Texas. Muggy & Hot 24/7/365	This game feels a lot harder (to me) that prior 'Souls' games. Not that any of them are easy, but this one has so many mini-bosses, its just - hard! Xbox got a 150mb or so update.......you all get on for PS4? Any ideas? (update, minor xbox-related update, nothing super awesome) So, if anyone is struggling with the Lady Butterfly boss, switch to Nightjar Slash. Fills up her Posture meter fast..... Last edited by Matt S; 03-26-2019 at 08:35 AM.

03-27-2019, 01:06 PM	#54
MuP504 Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2019 4K collection:201 Blu-ray collection:950 DVD collection:27	get behind all the enemies and take them out one by one using the back walk way by the gate that gets blocked off when you fight him with the fog. Then when its just him and you, wait for him to get into position and slowly walk up from behind him and backstab which will take away one of his life portions with a death blow then just fight him straight up resurrect if you almost beat him but die Last edited by MuP504; 03-27-2019 at 01:12 PM. Reason: response to dmc86x

03-27-2019, 03:58 PM	#56
ScarredLungs Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Utah 4K collection:39 Blu-ray collection:1358 Prime collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:4	This mini-boss will be the end of me. I am struggling more than I should I feel. I have had him down to about 10% health or so many times, and then I do something dumb and die, die and die again This is guy I am on. Spoiler to block potential spoilers of upcoming mini-boss fights [Show spoiler]BLAZING BULL Last edited by ScarredLungs; 03-28-2019 at 06:13 PM.

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03-25-2019, 04:21 PM	#46
ScarredLungs Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Utah 4K collection:39 Blu-ray collection:1358 Prime collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:4	After my first weekend with this game, I love it. I am have been trying to take my time and try not to miss things. I know I have probably missed a ton. I've only made it past the first boss. I have beaten 5 bosses. (I think)

03-26-2019, 09:12 PM	#50
DMC86X Power Member Member since:Apr 2009 Location:Baton Rouge, LA Blu-ray collection:24 Trading Score:84	Any tips for the huge guy outside the burning temple with the huge poison sword?

03-26-2019, 09:59 PM	#51
VictoryAtNight Blu-ray Champion Member since:Sep 2011 Location:Behind the wheel of my Civic [DX] 4K collection:63 Blu-ray collection:1022 DVD collection:394 MA collection:4 Digital collection:92 iTunes collection:1	I am so tempted into wanting to buy this game. I like the way blood spurts out like a water fountain when killing the enemies. The only thing that I am concerned about is the difficulty.

03-27-2019, 02:49 PM	#55
Mr. Thomsen Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Dec 2010 Location:Denmark 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:919 DVD collection:1	I have had a hard time getting adjusted to this - most likely amplified by my decision to play through Bloodborne again to get ready for the release. This is so very different to the rest of the Soulsborne games. Or rather it is, and it isn't. There are of course plenty of similarities. But what really has made it hard is the parrying system. Like so many other Soulsborne fans, I have been used to dodging attacks and going for that perfectly timed parry, which is rewarded with a sound effect and the opportunity to land a riposte or visceral attack on the opponent, often killing him or at the very least taking a away a large chunk of his health. This made me very frustrated with Sekiro. I never got good at parrying with shields in the Dark Souls series, and mostly used blocking and dodging. In Bloodborne, however, I was fairly proficient at it. The main thing one has to realise with Sekiro is, parrying is a different beast here. Timing is still of importance, since perfectly timed parries built up the opponent's posture meter (which, when full, gives you the opportunity to land a death blow, even when his health bar is still full). But you will still parry or block at least some of damage, if you do not hit that sweet spot. Unlike Dark Souls, you don't really get to do that one perfect parry/ riposte that kills your enemy in a single strong combo. Instead you built up your enemy's posture meter by multiple succesful parries until it is full - and then you get to do the death blow. In fact, one of the fastest ways to built up an opponent's posture meter is to do multiple parries in a row, parrying every hack and slash in one of his attack combos. With some enemies, blocking every attack in a combo can instantly fill up their posture meter, in effect killing them. It also took a long time to get used to the fact that dodging is much less useful here. The enemies' tracking is much better in Sekiro than in Dark Souls and Bloodborne. If you try to dodge around and attack, you will often see them turn in the attack and still hit you. Basically, you have to approach Sekiro somewhat differently than Soulsborne. Like Bloodborne it pays off to be aggressive and in-your-face most of the time. But unlike Bloodborne, you really need to try to parry and block as much as possible instead of dodging attacks. In fact, From Soft seems to want to teach us that blocking should be your go-to stance when fighting, as your own posture meter goes down much faster when you are blocking than when you are not. I can really recommend using the training function with the undead guy back at the temple. I kinda skipped it, after doing the first three - dodging, attacking, deflecting - and only yesterday noticed that more advanced options open up along the way. Training multiple parries and against thrust attacks has been invaluable for my enjoyment of the game. I finally feel I am starting to get the combat system and see the fun in it.

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