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Old 05-06-2020, 12:09 AM   #1
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Default Ultra low bitrate Blurays to fit 8 movies on a single disc

Why can't they fit 8-9 movies on a BD-50 at 2 Mbps AVC 1080p and 192 Kbps AC3? That bitrate still looks great on Youtube or in a mp4 file. Also work on BD-66 at 3 Mbps HEVC and 192 Kbps AC3.

Great if I could gain 8 movies at once. Bluray could increase in sales. Remember the 4 movie DVD packs of the 2000s sell a lot?

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Old 05-06-2020, 12:40 AM   #2
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Most people who buy Blu-ray (myself included) prefer better picture and audio quality to less discs. But I would like it if more TV shows that were shot or animated in SD were released on Blu-ray with less discs instead of DVD. They could easily fit each season of The Simpsons on a single Blu-ray disc without sacrificing any picture quality.
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Why can't they fit 8-9 movies on a BD-50 at 2 Mbps AVC 1080p and 192 Kbps AC3? That bitrate still looks great on Youtube or in a mp4 file. Also work on BD-66 at 3 Mbps HEVC and 192 Kbps AC3.

Great if I could gain 8 movies at once. Bluray could increase in sales. Remember the 4 movie DVD packs of the 2000s sell a lot?
Not quite that bad as those old DVD and BD collections they used to sell.

Do see examples where they fit 4 films on a BD. 2 x BD50



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https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/8-Mov...lu-ray/134234/

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I have that one, it definitely looks worse than most Blu-ray movies. If I was a big fan of any of the movies in the collection I would buy a separate release.
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I have that one, it definitely looks worse than most Blu-ray movies. If I was a big fan of any of the movies in the collection I would buy a separate release.
Most of the collections I see usually take a lot of old BD releases and kit them together. There is no reason not to these days with less stellar westerns, horror, action, mystery and like titles. A nice way to sell them.
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Originally I was thinking the price of shipping (3.99) and sales tax on 1 bluray case. I am used to buying $50 or $60 videogames that ha ve 20 hours of content. hollywood definitely is competing against videogames for dollars. Less people buy movies in recessions too. 2010s and 2020s movies on IMDb have bad scores now.

Maybe even selling entire bluray collections on Ebay in 2020!

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Old 05-06-2020, 01:17 AM   #7
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Originally I was thinking the price of shipping (4.99) and sales tax on 1 bluray case. I am used to buying $50 or $60 videogames that ha ve 20 hours of content. hollywood definitely is competing against videogames for dollars. Less people buy movies in recessions too. 2010s and 2020s movies on IMDb have bad scores now.
If price is your main concern that you can easily find plenty of older Blu-ray movies for under $5. You can also buy TV shows that are much longer for good prices too.

The Mill Creek TV sets are an especially good way of getting lots of content for a low price:
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There is no chance that new release movies will ever be bundled together and put on one disc when they sell frequently sell hundreds of thousands of copies on their own. The studios certainly wouldn't get more sales or higher profits by bundling new movies together and selling the discs for $60 each.

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There's another country, Japan or Germany I think, that does "SD on BD".
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There's another country, Japan or Germany I think, that does "SD on BD".
That would be Germany.

Japan wouldn't have a market for SD on Blu-ray considering that they charge about US$60 for 2 episodes of an anime, while us spoiled brats in the west get half-seasons (if not complete seasons) for less than that.

The fact that the Japanese market is willing to pay so much more for Blu-ray/DVD is also one of the reasons why they don't license their content for international distribution until about a year or two after their local release (to disincentivise locals from importing western copies, which typically contain the original Japanese audio).
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SD on blu sounds kind of appealing for older tv shows not shot on film or in hd. I'd certainly like to trim down some of the bulky dvd box sets. Ones from the late 90s to early 00s or so used to use individual full sized cases for each disc and that can take up a lot of unnecessary space.
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8 movies for $10! Bluray has to compete against thrift store dvds or amazon dvds for $2 each. After 30 years old, there is this ageism and my friends and strangers don't care about the picture quality, the sound quality, the extras. They don't care if I bought the movie. The bragging rights is to a brick wall after 30 years old. That's why it should be 8 for $10.

Many malls are going under by the way, because bragging rights doesn't function. The whole mall rat thing doesn't make sense.

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8 movies for $10! Bluray has to compete against thrift store dvds or amazon dvds for $2 each. After 30 years old, there is this ageism and my friends and strangers don't care about the picture quality, the sound quality, the extras. They don't care if I bought the movie. The bragging rights is to a brick wall after 30 years old. That's why it should be 8 for $10.

Many malls are going under by the way, because bragging rights doesn't function. The whole mall rat thing doesn't make sense.
Most people of any age don't really care about physical media. Even a lot of 'film buffs' don't collect physical movies.
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8 movies for $10! Bluray has to compete against thrift store dvds or amazon dvds for $2 each. After 30 years old, there is this ageism and my friends and strangers don't care about the picture quality, the sound quality, the extras. They don't care if I bought the movie. The bragging rights is to a brick wall after 30 years old. That's why it should be 8 for $10.

Many malls are going under by the way, because bragging rights doesn't function. The whole mall rat thing doesn't make sense.
The studios don't care if Blu-ray or DVD sells better. They aren't going to lower the price of Blu-ray movies just to make the format sell better. Movies aren't 8 for $10 on any format and they never will be... that would be a terrible way to make money.

Why would bragging rights affect the price of movies? What kind of idiot buys movies for bragging rights?

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Old 05-07-2020, 12:49 AM   #14
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The studios don't care if Blu-ray or DVD sells better. They aren't going to lower the price of Blu-ray movies just to make the format sell better. Movies aren't 8 for $10 on any format and they never will be... that would be a terrible way to make money.

Why would bragging rights affect the price of movies? What kind of idiot buys movies for bragging rights?
Well the idiots I know go to Mall of America for escape, the largest Mall in North America. The idiots in that mall are mall rats (the only ones left) Barnes and Noble sells Bluray, and that is huge store. Minnesotans probably don't make sense to you. There is a Gamestop there, and I save money to go to that particular Gamestop because the stores look lame. The other stores are for teenagers. Mall of America is from a bygone era. The young women in there are very pretty like from the movie Clueless! Woman all have their nicest clothes and makeup on at Mall of America.

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8 movies for $10!
Unless bargain bin labels are going to dump low-bitrate public domain duds on a disc, how do you suppose that money is going to be made when studios only stand to make mere cents per sale of a film?

Yes, it's possible to put 6 or so HD films on a BD-50 at acceptable quality (for the price anyway), but it's just not feasible for most unless you want to spend your hard-earned money on box office bombs and obscure TV movies.
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Unless bargain bin labels are going to dump low-bitrate public domain duds on a disc, how do you suppose that money is going to be made when studios only stand to make mere cents per sale of a film?

Yes, it's possible to put 6 or so HD films on a BD-50 at acceptable quality (for the price anyway), but it's just not feasible for most unless you want to spend your hard-earned money on box office bombs and obscure TV movies.
But there is 1000+ bad films to choose from annually from IMDb scoring especially 2015 - present.

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They used to have 100 packs of bad movies in 2006.

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Go to Tubi or Roku's own channel or even amazon Prime.

More bad movies than you want.

And if it's low bit rates you after they have that too.

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They used to have 100 packs of bad movies in 2006.
I just looked into that. Interesting. They seem to have around 24 discs per set, which equates to 4-5 movies per disc (6-8 hours per disc, which is stretching the bitrate real thin).

They could release 100 movie packs in standard definition with the same encoding on as little as three or four BD-50s.

I would assume that most of these movies are in the public domain (or perhaps had their copyright forfeited by the original owners) and/or that the owners are happy to sell the license for peanuts as they would never reach retail shelves otherwise.

With YouTube and an abundance of cheap streaming services that offer substantially better content available, I see little appeal in these kinds of sets in this day and age. With free time being such a scarcity these days, I don't really understand why people would want to spend their hard-earned money and time on this kind of rubbish, but to each their own, I suppose.

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You guys wonder why DVD's are doing so good!
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You guys wonder why DVD's are doing so good!
DVDs and streaming are popular for the same reason: they're cheap and the quality is "good enough". A very small percentage of people are willing to pay more for higher quality video and audio.
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