The Anime Blu-ray Video Quality Thread

[Kyle15]

Ppl see those overbaked blasting primaries and go "wow it looks just like the cels!!! awesome!!!" and I pee a little

[Spoofer]

With the Sentai Holiday Sale afoot, are we still lacking an answer as to whether or not the new Steelbook of Princess Tutu fixed the old BD's blended frames and other issues?

[theberserker22]

Originally Posted by Spoofer

With the Sentai Holiday Sale afoot, are we still lacking an answer as to whether or not the new Steelbook of Princess Tutu fixed the old BD's blended frames and other issues?

It’s been asked a few times around these parts and I don’t think it’s been answered.

[gloomranger]

https://twitter.com/animeajay/status...RM18r_fduFuQ1A

Originally Posted by Ajay

Unfortunately the Japanese Blu-ray for DBS Super Hero suffers from Toei's infamous incorrect colour space conversion issue, resulting in a green tint across the image throughout the entire film.

Hopefully the 4K version is okay, but my copy of that won't be here until Monday.

[Show spoiler]Example #1

[Show spoiler]Example #2

[NLScavenger]

One Piece: Stampede - Periscoop Film NL BD

Gross.



It's really disapointing to see such an atrocious Blu-ray after they released a decent Blu-ray of My Hero Academia: World Heroes' Mission this year. Since mediainfo doesn't show x264 encoder settings like MHA:WHM did, I sincerely hope that this was a shelved Blu-ray disc that was intended for release in 2020 (only the DVD got released).

Things are not looking well for Evangelion 1.11/2.22/3.33. I will be checking 1.11 tomorrow since Bookspot shipped mine.

BDInfo
Yes, the disc label says Peace instead of Piece lol. Subtitles in Dutch and English.

Disc Label: ONE_PEACE_STAMPEDE
Disc Size: 20,433,640,044 bytes
Protection: AACS
Playlist: 00001.MPLS
Size: 20,365,142,016 bytes
Length: 1:41:05.059
Total Bitrate: 26.86 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 23031 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: Japanese / DTS-HD Master Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz /  2349 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 16-bit)
Subtitle: English / 30.771 kbps
Subtitle: English / 28.344 kbps

[NLScavenger]

Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Destiny - US/UK BD vs JP BD

This time the US/UK BD has the correct RGB levels, but unfortunately the encode exhibits the same kind of horizontal line banding that can sometimes be spotted on Madman's encodes: https://slow.pics/c/MSep7GeS

US/UK BD


JP BD


I suspect that this may be some kind of issue with how Nozomi exports the intermediate video file from the master.

Interestingly, I hooked up the player to the Samsung 4K TV in the living room and the dither pattern cleaned up the banding lines. Having some kind of undefeatable dither is perhaps not a good thing, but in this case it's beneficial.

Some additional screenshots which may or may not exhibit those banding lines:

US/UK BD


JP BD


BDInfo US/UK BD episode 01

Disc Title: Gundam SEED Destiny BD1
Disc Label: GUNDAMSEEDDESTINYBD1
Disc Size: 37,542,478,015 bytes
Protection: AACS
Playlist: 00001.MPLS
Size: 7,269,709,824 bytes
Length: 0:23:54.099
Total Bitrate: 40.55 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 34799 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: Japanese / DTS-HD Master Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /  1740 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 16-bit)
Audio: English / DTS-HD Master Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /  1733 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 16-bit)
Subtitle: English / 36.757 kbps
Subtitle: English / 6.661 kbps

Writing library                          : x264 core 157 r2969 d4099dd
Encoding settings                        : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=10 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=24 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=24 / lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / slices=4 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=1 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=1 / weightp=1 / keyint=23 / keyint_min=1 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=23 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=34999 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.50 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=40000 / vbv_bufsize=27999 / nal_hrd=vbr / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00

Bitrate JP BD episode 01

Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 38002 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: Japanese / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /  1536 kbps / 16-bit
Audio: Japanese / LPCM Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /  1536 kbps / 16-bit (Audio commentary)
Subtitle: English

TV SDBD
The SDBD is the main reason why I bought the Ultimate Edition. It was not what I expected. I've seen Destiny during its Japanese broadcast run via heavily compressed fansubs, so I was not aware of the fact that the original version of Destiny has a grain filter unlike its cleaner predecessor and the HD Remaster.



The prologue of episode 1 uses assets from SEED and interestingly some of the shots with the SEED assets lack the grain filter.

SEED | SEED Destiny



SEED's SDBD featured a mix of progressive and interlaced scenes, but Destiny seems to be interlaced all the way.

BDInfo SDBD episode 01

Disc Title: Gundam SEED Destiny SDBD1
Disc Label: GUNDAMSEEDDESTINYSDBD1
Disc Size: 47,846,930,633 bytes
Protection: AACS
Playlist: 00001.MPLS
Size: 1,897,666,560 bytes
Length: 0:23:54.533
Total Bitrate: 10.58 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 9499 kbps / 480i / 29.970 fps / 4:3 / High Profile 4.1
Audio: Japanese / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /   256 kbps / DN -27dB
Audio: English / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz /   256 kbps / DN -27dB
Subtitle: English / 11.651 kbps
Subtitle: English / 2.290 kbps

Writing library                          : x264 core 157 r2969 d4099dd
Encoding settings                        : cabac=1 / ref=6 / deblock=1:1:1 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=8 / psy=1 / psy_rd=0.40:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=15 / lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / slices=4 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=bff / bluray_compat=1 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=1 / weightp=0 / keyint=30 / keyint_min=1 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=30 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=9500 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=15000 / vbv_bufsize=10000 / nal_hrd=vbr / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:0.60

[Naiera]

Wait, so SEED has been fixed?!

[NLScavenger]

They never fixed the RGB level issue and the corrupted frames of the replacement discs.

JP BD doesn't have these problems and it has English subs too.

[Naiera]

But, these new discs are fixed?

[NLScavenger]

Only SEED's discs were redone. There were no issues that I'm aware of with Destiny aside from the banding.

[BlackCondor93]

Apologies if I asked before, but for those who have the US Space Dandy BD, are the insert songs subtitled?

The UK release didn't subtitle the insert songs, nor the OP and ED, but they did subtitle the songs in the musical episode.

[BoopityBoop]

Got the UK release of In/Spectre today. While an improvement over the Viz release, it unfortunately seems to exhibit some of the same issues (screenshot taken with MPC):

[Show spoiler]

Would anyone know how something like this happens? Other scenes in the first episode exhibit noticeable amounts of banding and contrast in general seems higher (incorrect gamma/black levels?) in addition to crushed details in dark areas. The CR stream doesn't have these issues. For reference, here is what the same scene looks like on CR:

[Show spoiler]

[Mangaranga]

Originally Posted by BoopityBoop

Got the UK release of In/Spectre today. While an improvement over the Viz release, it unfortunately seems to exhibit some of the same issues (screenshot taken with MPC):

[Show spoiler]

This one is the correct version and matches the Japanese BD. It's not unusual for changes to be made to lighting and such between broadcast and home video. Unfortunately the method they've used to do so has probably caused a lot of the banding in that image.

[professorwho]

Originally Posted by professorwho

Escaflowne: The FUNimation discs did not have "additional DNR" applied compared to the UK discs, the compression is just inferior.

I like to copy and paste my old writing as well

[Tylerfan]

I noticed that too lol

[NLScavenger]

Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid S - Crunchyroll UK/US BD

https://slow.pics/c/Qa8Wv0PH

The irony is that CR/Funi use a deband filter (their filter tends to destroy detail in darker parts of the image)

[Mangaranga]

Originally Posted by NLScavenger

Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid S - Crunchyroll UK/US BD

https://slow.pics/c/Qa8Wv0PH

The irony is that CR/Funi use a deband filter (their filter tends to destroy detail in darker parts of the image)

Glad someone else was equally disappointed in this one... I also couldn't not notice during my own comparisons that there's a lot of artificting around text and line art - something I always notice in Sentai's encodes but not Funimation's.

[NLScavenger]

^



Also,

CR BD


JP BD


lol

[Naiera]

What are we lolling at?

[NLScavenger]

Subtitles blocking the credits