Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (2023) - June 30, 2023

[V2David]

Originally Posted by klauswhereareyou

Crystal Skull got good reviews, cost 185 million to make and made 786 million worldwide. I think the only people that it died with were some of the fans of the original films. I think it's okay, I don't love it as much as the other films, but it certainly didn't die.

Crystal Skulls is an abomination of a movie. I was excited to see Harrison Ford back as Indy, but it was a terrible, terrible movie and never should have been made.

[camper]

Originally Posted by Johnny Blu

Two names that came to me were Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Taylor Kitsch. Neither are A-list stars, but the Indiana Jones character doesn't need to be. When Ford took the role, he was an up and coming star, but certainly not an A-list at that point.

I can't think of anyone specifically, I would like to see someone new. I don't think I want them to look like exactly like Harrison Ford, but I suspect the studios will think they have to.

So long as they're a good actor who can portray the personality that's been developed it doesn't matter to me who it is.

Though I admit that it would be interesting to see Sean Patrick Flanery reprise the role, but he's almost 50 himself and at this point too old.

[CinemaBlu]

JGL and Taylor Kitsch aren't rugged enough to play the character.

[tylerdurden10]

Originally Posted by V2David

Crystal Skulls is an abomination of a movie. I was excited to see Harrison Ford back as Indy, but it was a terrible, terrible movie and never should have been made.

Hyperbole much? Seriously, I understand that alot of people didn't like it but I think some of you guys take it a bit far with your hatred of it.

[V2David]

Originally Posted by tylerdurden10

Hyperbole much? Seriously, I understand that alot of people didn't like it but I think some of you guys take it a bit far with your hatred of it.

Crystal Skull is the "Phantom Menace" of the Indiana Jones series. I love Indiana Jones. I love Harrison Ford. I hate Crystal Skulls and wish it was never made.

[R3P0]

Originally Posted by V2David

Would like to see Josh Holloway (of "Lost" fame) cast as the new Indiana Jones. Josh has the right talent and the look for the part.

By the way, I love Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones, but it is time for a reboot. Much better then having an old Indy and his son take over (god that was a terrible idea). Plus they can go back in time. I don't want a "modern" Indiana Jones.

Actually Josh Holloway sounds better than Bradley Cooper in the role. Hes Gritty and might work. Problem here is Indy was written specifically for Harrison Ford. Hence why as other have said INDY is Ford.

[CinemaBlu]

Originally Posted by R3P0

Actually Josh Holloway sounds better than Bradley Cooper in the role. Hes Gritty and might work. Problem here is Indy was written specifically for Harrison Ford. Hence why as other have said INDY is Ford.

No, it was written for Tom Selleck.

[R3P0]

Originally Posted by CinemaBlu

No, it was written for Tom Selleck.

Are you sure i could swear they said it was written for Ford but Selleck did screen test.

[CinemaBlu]

Originally Posted by R3P0

Are you sure i could swear they said it was written for Ford but Selleck did screen test.

No, it was written for Selleck but he was under another contract he couldn't get out of so Lucas reluctantly cast Ford after Spielberg suggested him.

[camper]

Originally Posted by R3P0

Actually Josh Holloway sounds better than Bradley Cooper in the role. Hes Gritty and might work. Problem here is Indy was written specifically for Harrison Ford. Hence why as other have said INDY is Ford.

Then why was Harrison Ford given the role only after Tom Selleck rejected it to work on Magnum PI?

In fact, Speilberg suggested Ford but Lucas initially rejected it. Ford was cast less than 3 weeks before filming began. The part was hardly 'written for Ford', was it?

[CinemaBlu]

Actually, it wasn't written for anybody in particular but Selleck WAS the first choice.

[Aerodude73]

Originally Posted by camper

Seriously, reboot Indy. I want more Indiana Jones adventures, and I think Ford is too old to play him. I want an "in his prime" Indiana Jones, not one with an AARP card collecting Social Security.

Exactly. I Love the guy but seriously, a guy in his 70's doing an Action/Adventure movie that this type of role requires? No thank you.

Originally Posted by Oscar Rothman

As expected it's a BS rumour.

http://www.slashfilm.com/bradley-cooper-indiana-jones/

That story does/says NOTHING to dispute this new story. Obviously, until the Studio or people involved (Ford, Spielberg, Lucas) say anything Concrete, it's ALL just rumors for now.

Originally Posted by Ill_Be_Back

Harrison Ford is Indiana Jones, he is still alive they can easily make 5 and 6 even though 4 was laughably bad.

Yup, plus he'll be 72 in July. Sure he's still in very good/decent shape for his age, but it's prob time to pass the torch.

Originally Posted by klauswhereareyou

I don't really see where you go from here though when Harrison Ford is now in his mid-70's. The main draw of these films are the action scenes, so if he's still in the part expect even more CGI enhancements than Crystal Skull.

(see above) Almost - he'll be 72 in July.

Originally Posted by V2David

Would like to see Josh Holloway (of "Lost" fame) cast as the new Indiana Jones. Josh has the right talent and the look for the part.

By the way, I love Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones, but it is time for a reboot. Much better then having an old Indy and his son take over (god that was a terrible idea).

Very good idea. He's only 44 now so he could easily do a new trilogy if the first one is successful enough. But, Bradley Cooper (39 yrs old) "is" more of a Big Name right now, so I could why he's at the top of the list, IF the story is correct.

[camper]

As for a young actor suggestion, how about Parker Young? I like to watch that show "Enlisted" and he plays a doofus on it, but he might be able to pull it off. Has that generic good looking guy with dark hair but not a pretty boy like Ashton or Leo look.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Not this one... please... not this one.

Just leave this one be. Why can't they jus create a new character in the same style? Seriously, this one makes absolute zero sense to me. Just get the Uncharted film franchise happening already and leave it at that. It's essentially a modern Indiana Jones anyways.

[V2David]

That's correct, Indiana Jones was written with Tom Selleck in mind.

That being said, I am sure at the time, no one thought anyone could replace Sean Connery as James Bond. Sure, many people still think Connery was the best, but other actors have been very successful and added their own characterization to the role including Daniel Craig who has been an excellent James Bond.

We all love Harrison Ford, but it is time to move on.

[tylerdurden10]

Originally Posted by V2David

Crystal Skull is the "Phantom Menace" of the Indiana Jones series. I love Indiana Jones. I love Harrison Ford. I hate Crystal Skulls and wish it was never made.

Just for the simple fact that Ford & Karen Allen were both in it makes it better that Phantom Menace was by default.

I think a lot of the backlash for Crystal Skull really is just due to the overuse of CGI (which really was only bad in two places) and the hatred a lot of people have for Shia LeBeouf (even though I don't love him as actor, really was harmless in this). I wasn't thrilled with the storyline, but honestly seeing Indy back again and hearing that score was enough for me to overlook some of the sillier moments of the film.

[V2David]

Originally Posted by Aerodude73

Very good idea. He's only 44 now so he could easily do a new trilogy if the first one is successful enough. But, Bradley Cooper (39 yrs old) "is" more of a Big Name right now, so I could why he's at the top of the list, IF the story is correct.

I don't need a big name for Indiana Jones. I need someone who is a good actor who looks the part and has the right sense of humor. Josh Holloway could certainly pull it off. And as you said, the story is key.

[Aerodude73]

Originally Posted by V2David

I don't need a big name for Indiana Jones. I need someone who is a good actor who looks the part and has the right sense of humor. Josh Holloway could certainly pull it off. And as you said, the story is key.

Lol - I Too do not need a big name for the character. But, you know how Hollyweird can be

Holloway can easily pull off the physicality the role requires, plus the humor. He showed these attributes on LOST & is showing it again on INTELLIGENCE.

[Astro Zombie]

Originally Posted by V2David

Crystal Skull is the "Phantom Menace" of the Indiana Jones series. I love Indiana Jones. I love Harrison Ford. I hate Crystal Skulls and wish it was never made.

So it's good?

[V2David]

Originally Posted by tylerdurden10

Just for the simple fact that Ford & Karen Allen were both in it makes it better that Phantom Menace was by default.

I think a lot of the backlash for Crystal Skull really is just due to the overuse of CGI (which really was only bad in two places) and the hatred a lot of people have for Shia LeBeouf (even though I don't love him as actor, really was harmless in this). I wasn't thrilled with the storyline, but honestly seeing Indy back again and hearing that score was enough for me to overlook some of the sillier moments of the film.

It was great seeing Harrison Ford in the fedora again, but once you get over that, and the music, and the nostalgia, you are left with a very bad film. The story is beyond bad. The action sequences (especially those involving Indy) are boring and unmemorable. I don't personally dislike Shia LeBeouf, but the thought of giving Indy a son was stupid (reminds me of giving Superman a son in Superman Returns). Shia's character is so universally disliked, there was no way to "father/son" dynamic was going to be fun the way it was with Connery & Ford.

The day Disney bought Lucasfilm, the first thing I got excited about was not the acquisition of Star Wars, but the acquisition of Indiana Jones. This property has not been treated properly since Last Crusade. I have no faith in Lucas anymore (especially after the Star Wars prequels and Crystal Skulls). I believe Spielberg could still direct a good Indy film as long as Lucas isn't involved in the story. The fact Disney has the property now means we could actually get some new people involved because George Lucas is washed up. As for Harrison Ford, he will always be one of my favorite actors of all time, but it is time for a new take on Indiana Jones with a new actor. For those of you who don't want to see anyone in the role, you will always have the first three original movies (and Crystal Skulls too if you are an apologist!)