Avengers: Endgame (2019)

[StingingVelvet]

This is the one Spider-Man will be in, if Sony's Sinister Six bombs and they work out a deal with Marvel.

[Randall Flagg]

I wonder if this will be the conclusion to the Marvel films before some sort of reboot. I really don't see what could top this movie?

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by Randall Flagg

I wonder if this will be the conclusion to the Marvel films before some sort of reboot. I really don't see what could top this movie?

No reboot. After this it will focus more on the newer characters though, I'm sure. Black Panther 2, Doctor Strange 2, etc. If they do more Captain America or Iron Man movies and the like they will probably recast, which they have stated is the goal rather than rebooting.

Rebooting would be dumb.

[Comicman494]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

No reboot. After this it will focus more on the newer characters though, I'm sure. Black Panther 2, Doctor Strange 2, etc. If they do more Captain America or Iron Man movies and the like they will probably recast, which they have stated is the goal rather than rebooting.

Rebooting would be dumb.

I would imagine a creative, and in-continuity "reboot", but maybe more accurately "revamp" where the entire franchise moves on in new directions with the fresher characters. Agreeing with you, I absolutely don't imagine a literal, new continuity reboot occurring.

[Walts Ghost]

Originally Posted by Comicman494

I would imagine a creative, and in-continuity "reboot", but maybe more accurately "revamp" where the entire franchise moves on in new directions with the fresher characters. Agreeing with you, I absolutely don't imagine a literal, new continuity reboot occurring.

I'm with both of you as well. I feel like the MCU will be a very different place post Infinity War 2, and I think there will be a creative reboot, but not a straightforward reboot of the whole MCU. Panther, Strange, the Inhumans, the Guardians, etc., will all continue on into Phase 4, 5, 6, and so on, as the years go on. Expect to see the old guard taking a back seat to the fresher faces. But not a literal reboot.

[pabloccb]

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

I'm with both of you as well. I feel like the MCU will be a very different place post Infinity War 2, and I think there will be a creative reboot, but not a straightforward reboot of the whole MCU. Panther, Strange, the Inhumans, the Guardians, etc., will all continue on into Phase 4, 5, 6, and so on, as the years go on. Expect tio see the old guard taking a back seat to the fresher faces. But not a literal reboot.

I think the marvel universe will slow down sooner or later when Robert Downey Jr and Chris Evans no longer belong to it. I dont think we could see some phenomenon like this team of Avengers just like the new Batman will be forever overshadowed by Nolan's.

[Comicman494]

Originally Posted by pabloccb

I think the marvel universe will slow down sooner or later when Robert Downey Jr and Chris Evans no longer belong to it. I dont think we could see some phenomenon like this team of Avengers just like the new Batman will be forever overshadowed by Nolan's.

That's mighty subjective. Don't let your opinion mix with fact. There's no objective way of proving that now or ever.

[Walts Ghost]

Originally Posted by pabloccb

I think the marvel universe will slow down sooner or later when Robert Downey Jr and Chris Evans no longer belong to it. I dont think we could see some phenomenon like this team of Avengers just like the new Batman will be forever overshadowed by Nolan's.

Guardians of the Galaxy just made over $700M worldwide, and Marvel just unveiled nine new films. The MCU isn't slowing down any time soon. Feige has also said that actors aren't bigger than the characters, so just because some leave doesn't mean that the MCU stops. You re-cast, or have another character pick up the mantle, and you keep going. Remember, the MCU is mapped out to 2028.

[pabloccb]

Originally Posted by Comicman494

That's mighty subjective. Don't let your opinion mix with fact. There's no objective way of proving that now or ever.

Sorry if i forgot to mention that's my opinion. Of course i may be wrong. But what is happening right now isn't normal. I mean a team of superherroes that can gross more than 700 m together but also in their own movies. I imagine future succesful movies for Marvel but nothing close to this era. I think this will be their peak.

[Jasonic]

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

Guardians of the Galaxy just made over $700M worldwide, and Marvel just unveiled nine new films. The MCU isn't slowing down any time soon. Feige has also said that actors aren't bigger than the characters, so just because some leave doesn't mean that the MCU stops. You re-cast, or have another character pick up the mantle, and you keep going. Remember, the MCU is mapped out to 2028.

The way they have been able to build this world and write their stories, it would be pretty stupid of them to re-cast someone who is supposed to be the exact same character. It's simply not needed. For instance Cap should die, and you have someone else come in to pick up the shield. No reason to continue to keep Steve Rogers alive with a different actor other than Evans. Same goes for any other character. The comics do this all the time, and they don't have to worry about actors, so no reason for the movies to not do it.

[Walts Ghost]

Originally Posted by pabloccb

Sorry if i forgot to mention that's my opinion. Of course i may be wrong. But what is happening right now isn't normal. I mean a team of superherroes that can gross more than 700 m together but also in their own movies. I imagine future succesful movies for Marvel but nothing close to this era. I think this will be their peak.

As long as the movies have great stories to tell, and the Marvel Studios logo is in front of the film, people will continue to show up.

Originally Posted by Jasonic

The way they have been able to build this world and write their stories, it would be pretty stupid of them to re-cast someone who is supposed to be the exact same character. It's simply not needed. For instance Cap should die, and you have someone else come in to pick up the shield. No reason to continue to keep Steve Rogers alive with a different actor other than Evans. Same goes for any other character. The comics do this all the time, and they don't have to worry about actors, so no reason for the movies to not do it.

They've done it before. Ruffalo, Cheadle, and Levi have all been recasts of characters previously in the MCU. So, as long as it's done correctly, you won't really care. Look at it as a new artist taking over and bringing a new look to universe. I'd rather they have new characters pick up the mantles, but the characters aren't defined by the actors, the actors are defined by the characters. As long as someone shows up and gives a great performance as any character, we'll accept it.

[walruswarrior]

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

Guardians of the Galaxy just made over $700M worldwide, and Marvel just unveiled nine new films. The MCU isn't slowing down any time soon. Feige has also said that actors aren't bigger than the characters, so just because some leave doesn't mean that the MCU stops. You re-cast, or have another character pick up the mantle, and you keep going. Remember, the MCU is mapped out to 2028.

Do you believe there will be no repercussions with regards to a possible retirement of RDJ, Evans, and Hemsworth from their roles?

GOTG was an amazing film that Gunn absolutely delivered. Wonderfully marketed and had a very strong word of mouth.

I am most interested in how Ant-Man performs. It will most likely really benefit from Ultron's goodwill.

[walruswarrior]

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

As long as the movies have great stories to tell, and the Marvel Studios logo is in front of the film, people will continue to show up.



They've done it before. Ruffalo, Cheadle, and Levi have all been recasts of characters previously in the MCU. So, as long as it's done correctly, you won't really care. Look at it as a new artist taking over and bringing a new look to universe. I'd rather they have new characters pick up the mantles, but the characters aren't defined by the actors, the actors are defined by the characters. As long as someone shows up and gives a great performance as any character, we'll accept it.

I'd take Norton and Howard over Ruffalo and Cheadle. But that's my opinion.

[Walts Ghost]

Originally Posted by walruswarrior

Do you believe there will be no repercussions with regards to a possible retirement of RDJ, Evans, and Hemsworth from their roles?

GOTG was an amazing film that Gunn absolutely delivered. Wonderfully marketed and had a very strong word of mouth.

I am most interested in how Ant-Man performs. It will most likely really benefit from Ultron's goodwill.

I think as long as the stories are good, and Marvel brings great films to the screen, much like with Guardians, people will show up. I mean, some may not be terribly happy if the recasts happen, but as long as the film delivers and the person is good in the film, I think that audiences will be more than forgiving about it.

Originally Posted by walruswarrior

I'd take Norton and Howard over Ruffalo and Cheadle. But that's my opinion.

I liked Norton and Howard both, but I go the other way, I think the other two are more fun in the roles. But maybe it's just because we've seen them longer, but I feel like Cheadle and Downey, Jr. play off each other better, and Ruffalo just fits the team better than Norton. But all the actors were good in their roles.

[Jasonic]

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

As long as the movies have great stories to tell, and the Marvel Studios logo is in front of the film, people will continue to show up.



They've done it before. Ruffalo, Cheadle, and Levi have all been recasts of characters previously in the MCU. So, as long as it's done correctly, you won't really care. Look at it as a new artist taking over and bringing a new look to universe. I'd rather they have new characters pick up the mantles, but the characters aren't defined by the actors, the actors are defined by the characters. As long as someone shows up and gives a great performance as any character, we'll accept it.

It depends on the character. And those ones you mentioned were different cases. I'm talking more on the actors' deals ending. Norton did one movie and no one was really invested in the MCU yet, and plenty of people still cared. At this point, I would definitely care if they got someone else as Steve Rogers, Tony Stark, the current Thor, or even Bruce Banner as I would just find it ridiculous to change him again at this point. Others would definitely care too based on the characters.

I'm saying they have more freedom with their success to do whatever they want with the stories. I'd also find it pathetic if they don't have the balls to kill off major characters.

[walruswarrior]

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

I think as long as the stories are good, and Marvel brings great films to the screen, much like with Guardians, people will show up. I mean, some may not be terribly happy if the recasts happen, but as long as the film delivers and the person is good in the film, I think that audiences will be more than forgiving about it.



I liked Norton and Howard both, but I go the other way, I think the other two are more fun in the roles. But maybe it's just because we've seen them longer, but I feel like Cheadle and Downey, Jr. play off each other better, and Ruffalo just fits the team better than Norton. But all the actors were good in their roles.

You can't know that Ruffalo fits in better because we never saw Norton with the whole crew lol. I actually like Rhodey's chemistry with Tony in IM better than IM2/3.

I tend to agree, but they will be hard pressed to get a better Stark than RDJ if they choose to recast.

[demonknight]

In Phase IV, RDJ, Evans, and Hemsworth may leave, but we still have Rudd, Ruffallo, Pratt, Diesel (presumably twice over), Saldana, Cooper, Boseman, Cumberbatch, and more to be announced.

[Jasonic]

Originally Posted by demonknight

In Phase IV, RDJ, Evans, and Hemsworth may leave, but we still have Rudd, Ruffallo, Pratt, Diesel (presumably twice over), Saldana, Cooper, Boseman, Cumberbatch, and more to be announced.

Exactly. So, we don't exactly need these characters all the time anyways. Many of these characters to begin with weren't big names to the public. Characters like Iron Man and Thor are only up there with the likes of Batman and Spider-Man today because of these movies. You make more movies with different characters, and they have the chance to get to bigger status too, to where you don't even need an Iron Man in a future Avengers or whatever movie have they go on past the current slate.

[Randall Flagg]

I am pretty sure people will be sick of super-heroes by the time Infinity War 2 is over.

These fads don't last forever. The DC and all of their movies will over saturate the market and people will be sick of these movies by then IMO.

[GP Legend]

Originally Posted by Randall Flagg

I am pretty sure people will be sick of super-heroes by the time Infinity War 2 is over.

These fads don't last forever. The DC and all of their movies will over saturate the market and people will be sick of these movies by then IMO.

Wrong. This is not a fad at all. No more so than dramas or comedies or any other genre movies. Comic movies have become a genre, and they will be around for years to come.