Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (2022)

[Foggy]

Just gonna say it, good CGI is overrated. Give me a good film with high ambitions with middling effects any day of the week over an Avatar or Transformers movie.

[imsounoriginal]

Give me a movie with both lol

[Darth Marcus]

Source: IndieWire

Ryan Coogler Talks About the Challenge of ‘Black Panther 2’
Kate Erbland - Nov 6, 2018 2:34 pm

As the filmmaker prepares to make his very first sequel, he tells IndieWire he's ready to embrace the pressure and "just focus on the work."

Ryan Coogler’s first foray into the Marvel Cinematic Universe may have catapulted the “Black Panther” filmmaker to the top of the box office and straight into the franchise filmmaking record books, but the “Fruitvale Station” and “Creed” director is still surprised that the film even exists. “The most surprising thing is just that it worked, just that it was a movie at all,” Coogler told IndieWire before accepting his IndieWire Honors Visionary Award last week. “As long and hard as the process was, oftentimes I would be like, ‘I don’t know if this thing is gonna work, I’m not even sure this is making sense. But you keep chipping away at it, chipping away at it.”

Suffice it to say, it did work, and Coogler is now signed on to make a sequel to his smash hit MCU film. Asked if the sky-high expectations for “Black Panther 2” are making him nervous, Coogler got reflective (and honest).

“I think the pressure is kind of always going to be there,” he said. “I’ve had a chance to make three feature films, each one of them had its own very specific type of pressure. In the process of it, it feels insurmountable each time.” He’s not kidding: pre-“Black Panther,” Coogler took on films that followed real-life tragedies (“Fruitvale Station”) and other beloved franchises (“Creed”), projects packed with the kind of expectations that could keep any filmmaker up late at night.

“When it comes to making a sequel, I’ve never done it before, a sequel to something that I’ve directed myself,” Coogler said. “So I think there’s gonna be a lot of pressure there, but what we’re going to try to do is just focus on the work, like we always do. Really try to go step by step and try to quiet everything else around us, really focus on trying to make something that has some type of meaning.”

[CyberpunkCentral]

Michael B. Jordan may return for Black Panther 2

https://comicbook.com/marvel/2019/01...rtney-b-vance/

[Moviefan2k4]

The first movie was okay, but felt heavy-handed in a few places. I'm cautiously optimistic about a sequel.

[Arawn]

Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

Michael B. Jordan may return for Black Panther 2

Chris Pine coming back for WW 2 and now this! Don't anybody stay dead no more?

[CyberpunkCentral]

Originally Posted by Arawn

Chris Pine coming back for WW 2 and now this! Don't anybody stay dead no more?

Tee hee, you silly. No one stays dead in the comic universe, unless you're a Martha and Uncle Ben.

[imsounoriginal]

Killmonger's technically a dead former king of Wakanda, so showing up in another Ancestral Plane scene would make sense. How or why anyone would go back to the Ancestral Plane after the events of the first movie, I don't know.

[ScarredLungs]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

Killmonger's technically a dead former king of Wakanda, so showing up in another Ancestral Plane scene would make sense. How or why anyone would go back to the Ancestral Plane after the events of the first movie, I don't know.

I think it could have been flashbacks to previous events, some of which might have taken place off camera in the first one.

[Darth Marcus]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

Killmonger's technically a dead former king of Wakanda, so showing up in another Ancestral Plane scene would make sense. How or why anyone would go back to the Ancestral Plane after the events of the first movie, I don't know.

I was thinking about this the other day, hoping they would go this route. Have Killmonger torture T'Challa's conscience and challenge his morality would be something I'd love to watch.

[imsounoriginal]

Yup, something along the lines of Koba's scenes in War of the Apes would be very interesting. I never liked that Killmonger died at the end, there was so much untapped potential for him as a recurring character.

[Creed]

I'm down for him to return. One of the better MCU villains.

[Darth Marcus]

Who knows, maybe T'Challa convinced Shuri to give Killmonger a mechanical heart after she gave Bucky a new mechanical arm.

[imsounoriginal]

T'Challa even says that Killmonger's wounds are survivable with Wakandan tech. But I think T'Challa would understand the importance of honoring Killmonger's wish to die.

[Darth Marcus]

When he saw the gravity of the mess that Killmonger caused, T'Challa realized "f**k that, he did this, he's helping me fix it".

[mpstjohn]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

Yup, something along the lines of Koba's scenes in War of the Apes would be very interesting. I never liked that Killmonger died at the end, there was so much untapped potential for him as a recurring character.

Untapped potential, yes. But it also gave BP an edge that a lot of the MCU movies are missing, a feeling of consequence and finality. It also helped to reinforce the character's strength of conviction, that rather than just sticking around as a villain, he chose death over bondage. I am okay with him sticking around as a ghost or flashback but it would take away from the ending of the first film if they just brought him back alive because he contractually they could if they wanted to.

[CyberpunkCentral]

Maybe The Avengers reverse back everything in Endgame.

[therealjondoe]

Dr Doom rescued him from the brink of death with ambitions of invading Wakanda

[Elgie]

I’d rather he stayed dead and had his actions reverberate in narrative and thematic ways but Jordan definitely puts asses in seats.

[imsounoriginal]

Originally Posted by mpstjohn

Untapped potential, yes. But it also gave BP an edge that a lot of the MCU movies are missing, a feeling of consequence and finality. It also helped to reinforce the character's strength of conviction, that rather than just sticking around as a villain, he chose death over bondage. I am okay with him sticking around as a ghost or flashback but it would take away from the ending of the first film if they just brought him back alive because he contractually they could if they wanted to.

Yeah it's weird because I totally understand why Killmonger's death works, and I don't think the movie would be as good as it is without the scene of him choosing to die. But I can't help lamenting what could've been had he lived. It's not a big deal though.