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Old 09-02-2021, 01:42 AM   #41
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Holy crap, only $16.22 at RightStuf? That's dirt-cheap. Seriously, we're totally living in a golden age of classic anime on physical-disc media right now (aided in no small part by the wizards at Discotek).
I was thinking what a great price it was when I noticed earlier.
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Old 09-02-2021, 05:01 AM   #42
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Don't tell that to someone in the comments on a certain Blu-ray.com news article for a certain landmark anime directed by Hayao Miyazaki.

Even when anime gets cheaper to the point it's easier to argue it's actually underpriced, someone out there will somehow manage to say it's too expensive.
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Old 09-02-2021, 11:53 AM   #43
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The price is fine to me.
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Old 09-03-2021, 08:33 AM   #44
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Unsurprisingly, it looks like the uncut version isn't included, as the Right Stuff listing says 90 minutes, and Discotek would probably want to advertise the uncut version if it was included (people asking on Twitter also went unanswered).
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Old 09-03-2021, 12:00 PM   #45
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So what was cut from this version?
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Old 09-03-2021, 12:39 PM   #46
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According to Japanese Wikipedia among others the first appearance of Rose and Rei, and a scene with Lum in a cafe at night were shortened/cut in the original theatrical cut.

There was also something on the Japanese Wikipedia page about Oshii mockingly calling the uncut version a "Producer's Cut" and later saying that it's "too long", but I found no citations.
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Old 09-03-2021, 01:52 PM   #47
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There was also something on the Japanese Wikipedia page about Oshii mockingly calling the uncut version a "Producer's Cut" and later saying that it's "too long", but I found no citations.
I believe this is where Oshii's "producer's cut" quote comes from:

https://www.kyo-kan.net/oshii-ig/report/200301106.html

Apparently, he thinks the theatrical version's length is better, although he wishes he could have fit the original opening scene animated by Koji Morimoto in it.
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Old 09-03-2021, 06:57 PM   #48
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I don't know why it's only in anime where something gets drawn/shot in 4:3, matted into 16:9 for theatrical release, then back to original aspect ratio for home release, but then back to matted in 16:9 for new HD home release. Maybe some of it is "Why come not fill up mah TV?" as some TV series are having this happen to them too. (DBZ, Buffy and The X-Files comes to mind.)

I'm clearly in the minority who prefers original aspect ratio, but I don't believe that its obvious that Beautiful Dreamer has great composition intended for widescreen. To me it's just losing information. (Granted, seeing this in the theater would indeed have had it matted, but back then the real money was in the home video release, and everyone had 4:3 displays, so drawn/filmed in 4:3 originally. Then things get even weirder when the US takes an OVA which was originally created and released on VHS and LD in 4:3, crops it to 16:9, releases it theatrically, and now it's only cropped in 16:9. Thanks Streamline, R.I.P. Robot Carnival. Yes, I'm bitter.)

(I'm not trying to pick a fight with you, Professerwho, I just think it's strong to say that: "the UY films have great composition intended for widescreen, and thatís very obvious when you see them." I've learned a lot from you over the years and always look forward to your posts. This is one of my favorite movies, so I know my feelings are probably more pronounced for this.)

The angle is kind of odd so bear with me.


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I mean, the whole point of the movie is Tomobiki being on the back of this turtle, but let's crop it out.

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I think in both scenes above lose some impact, especially the Mendou scene.

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Here we have Onsen-Mark giving some important dialouge on BD:



And the same frame on DVD:



(He had a mouth the whole time)





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yeah, that seems less like they animated with both aspect ratios in mind and more like they started with a 4:3 composition and then did their best to make it work in 16x9. Shame, i remember getting similar claustrophobic feelings when watching the first Tomorrow Joe movie recently.
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Old 09-04-2021, 08:25 PM   #50
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Well it has been 3 years since the second movie got released, hopefully it will not be nearly that long between this release(1st movie) and the next movie(3rd movie?).
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Old 09-04-2021, 11:44 PM   #51
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yeah, that seems less like they animated with both aspect ratios in mind and more like they started with a 4:3 composition and then did their best to make it work in 16x9. Shame, i remember getting similar claustrophobic feelings when watching the first Tomorrow Joe movie recently.
From the few cels I have (canít find them all), movies generally use the same standard cel size and are animated as 4:3, but definitely they had 16:9 in mind. Thereís a lot of space at the top and the bottom to accommodate the reframing and the characters are animated smaller than on TV cels. Where the characters line up seem to match the generic Pierrot layout sheet.
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Old 09-05-2021, 05:05 AM   #52
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Most animation is done at 1.37 (slightly bigger than 4:3 or 1.33) and is drawn and composed to (mostly) fit widescreen theatrical cropping. Much of the time, animators don't fully animate the cells and you'd have other junk like garbage mattes and time/production codes like the above image. Even 4:3 formatting is zoomed in to a degree to avoid such garbage most of the time.
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Old 09-05-2021, 08:38 PM   #53
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Hi,

I purchased the TV series boxsets by Yamato Video as well as all 6 movies, Final Chapter is on order ans should arrive on Tuesday.

Only You features both the 90min and 101min versions. So I think I will stick to the Italian releases for those, as the possibility of French versions being very remote since we haven't had anything UY since 2006.

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Old 09-07-2021, 12:20 AM   #54
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I hope we will also get the series one day. I wonder if that is an option if the movies sell well enough.
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Old 09-07-2021, 03:30 AM   #55
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I think it's possible. I'm sure they'd want to do their own sweep through of the subtitles, but the translation work was already done for the DVDs.
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Old 09-07-2021, 04:02 AM   #56
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Very disappointed that it sounds like the uncut version is not the one that will be on BD. Having seen both versions many years ago, I still prefer the uncut version mainly due to the opening shadow tag sequence. I guess I'll have to keep the Animeigo version around after all.
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Old 09-07-2021, 05:01 AM   #57
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Perhaps it’d be best to wait until all the details of the Blu-ray were fully announced before jumping to conclusions.
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Old 09-09-2021, 02:01 PM   #58
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Hello,

I have gotten all the Italian blu-rays and just wanted to point out that the Final Chapter is available since August 26 from Yamato Video. ( but somehow it doesn't appear in the database). https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B097CKQGH5/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A11IL2PNWYJU7H&psc=1
I've only opened Only You thus far, but it features the two versions.

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Old 09-13-2021, 07:18 PM   #59
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So what did you guys think of each movie?

1st- Good
2nd- Great
3rd- Great
4th- Weakest One
5th- Great
6th- Okay
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Hi,

I purchased the TV series boxsets by Yamato Video as well as all 6 movies, Final Chapter is on order ans should arrive on Tuesday.

Only You features both the 90min and 101min versions. So I think I will stick to the Italian releases for those, as the possibility of French versions being very remote since we haven't had anything UY since 2006.
Thanks for the info. If the U.S. release only has the 90min. version, this is a good alternative. Have to wait and see till december.
How is the quality of the TV series on blu-ray? Even if discotek decides to release the series it will probably take years, as their schedule for the coming 2 years is already planned (or so I've heard).
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