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Old 08-18-2021, 02:28 PM   #1
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Since the theater threads keep disappearing.

Studios Begin to Blink on Theatrical Releases Amid Delta: “I Would Have Moved Everything”

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Says one studio executive: “If I knew six weeks ago what I know now, I would have moved everything as far out as early next year.” A rival colleague adds that he would have said “no” to the chance of another major calendar migration six short weeks ago. “Now, it’s a maybe.”


At what point do the theaters get wise, and start reaching out to Indie film creators? It is a wide open market that they are ignoring. They could invest in the future.

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I wonder if some sort of temporary partnership between theaters and streaming services would work? Maybe when you purchase a theater ticket online, it could include temporary access to the movie on a streaming service, or if you purchase the movie digitally, it could include a movie ticket. I've seen blu-rays that included theater tickets. I think they could work something out.
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I wonder if some sort of temporary partnership between theaters and streaming services would work? Maybe when you purchase a theater ticket online, it could include temporary access to the movie on a streaming service, or if you purchase the movie digitally, it could include a movie ticket. I've seen blu-rays that included theater tickets. I think they could work something out.
Digital Copy could work. The studios will not do anything to upset their bottom line. As much as people think studios and theaters share a symbiotic relationship they do not. The studios have all the cards.
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New Tom Hanks sci-fi movie shifts from theaters to Apple TV+

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I wonder if some sort of temporary partnership between theaters and streaming services would work? Maybe when you purchase a theater ticket online, it could include temporary access to the movie on a streaming service, or if you purchase the movie digitally, it could include a movie ticket. I've seen blu-rays that included theater tickets. I think they could work something out.
Why reinvent the wheel? Give them a piece of the PVOD money.
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Digital Copy could work. The studios will not do anything to upset their bottom line. As much as people think studios and theaters share a symbiotic relationship they do not. The studios have all the cards.
The only way to change this is for a movie theater chain to bankroll a movie - in the $20M to $50M range. Then they could keep 100% of the ticket sales. There is no legal reason why they can't do this. The only thing they can't do is make the movie exclusive to their theater chain. That is covered in the Sunset Clause when the Paramount Consent Decrees were vacated.
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The only way to change this is for a movie theater chain to bankroll a movie - in the $20M to $50M range. Then they could keep 100% of the ticket sales. There is no legal reason why they can't do this. The only thing they can't do is make the movie exclusive to their theater chain. That is covered in the Sunset Clause when the Paramount Consent Decrees were vacated.
Yes they should be helping to prop up the local film market. They could spread the money around to multiple movies. Dropping 1-2 million on a local product would be amazing.
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I wonder if some sort of temporary partnership between theaters and streaming services would work? Maybe when you purchase a theater ticket online, it could include temporary access to the movie on a streaming service, or if you purchase the movie digitally, it could include a movie ticket. I've seen blu-rays that included theater tickets. I think they could work something out.
Theaters want/need concession money too though. Offering a day-and-date streaming option hurts the theater chain because people could theoretically buy their ticket and not show up at all.
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Why reinvent the wheel? Give them a piece of the PVOD money.
I'm not reinventing the wheel, just adding a trim ring.

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The only way to change this is for a movie theater chain to bankroll a movie - in the $20M to $50M range. Then they could keep 100% of the ticket sales. There is no legal reason why they can't do this. The only thing they can't do is make the movie exclusive to their theater chain. That is covered in the Sunset Clause when the Paramount Consent Decrees were vacated.
That's not reinventing the wheel, you're going all the way to AT-AT.
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Yes they should be helping to prop up the local film market. They could spread the money around to multiple movies. Dropping 1-2 million on a local product would be amazing.
Unfortunately they are still in Empire Building mode and can't see the forest through the trees. IMO it's a no brainer.

Keep the budgets low and the movies short: 100 minutes or less. The top three chains have 1500 sites. If they got together to show each other's movies on a single screen at each site, that would be a wide release. Maybe get Speilberg and Nolan to help them - put their money where their mouth is as far as helping theaters.
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What if people without proof of vaccination were charged a $5 fee? I saw on the news you could get an exemption from the vaccination requirement to get on a cruise ship, but they charged a $150 fee.
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What if people without proof of vaccination were charged a $5 fee? I saw on the news you could get an exemption from the vaccination requirement to get on a cruise ship, but they charged a $150 fee.
Are they sheltered in their own section of the ship?
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I know not everyone would go to this extreme, but I'd buy a package for Dune right now that comes with theater tickets, blu-ray, digital copy, soundtrack, and the making-of book. They can all get my money.
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Are they sheltered in their own section of the ship?
I think they still have to provide a negative covid test before boarding.
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I'm not reinventing the wheel, just adding a trim ring.
IMO you are taking the factory 15" wheel covers off and adding 18" chrome wheels. It's too much of a change. Plus remember, the studios are losing money on their streaming services currently which won't change for another 2 to 3 years.

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Correct!. The way to really make progress in Business: everyone's going left . . . make a right: virgin ground with little or no competition.
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I know not everyone would go to this extreme, but I'd buy a package for Dune right now that comes with theater tickets, blu-ray, digital copy, soundtrack, and the making-of book. They can all get my money.
These things should be happening. They just want to continue with their archaic business model. I would like to once again invoke Sears.

They should be selling blu-rays/dvds, comics, toys, posters, keychains, etc etc.
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