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Geoff D · 11-28-2022, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Markgway

It just never occured to me.

It's been a thing for about as long as the DI has existed, so almost 20 years. And you've never noticed it? huh.

Zivouhr · 11-28-2022, 03:59 PM

I almost never notice they use computers to smooth things over for older actresses and actors in movies (other than with Jurassic Park and Predator's smoothing of faces from film grain) unless they're de-aged like Michael Douglas in Ant-Man 1, or Indiana Jones 5, yet to be released.

With Sandra Bullock appeared in Bullet Train, I thought she looked young for her age at 58, or had plastic surgery or something. I guess it's possible without any adjustments, but good eyes if able to see she is being digitally altered in that scene. I didn't know, but also didn't care. A replacement these days for heavy make up.

Once old age starts taking over, best to just go with it and accept it, or forever be worried about it. It's tough for these actors who want to appear young all the time.

s2mikey · 11-28-2022, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OABJYU

I prefer my actors 'warts n'all'

Right - just grow old gracefully. You arent fooling anyone. We know how old you are & we also know that you've had more work done than a 1971 Chevy Pickup truck has by now.

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It looks so bad too. I also love the 60 year olds that magically show up with hairlines of a12 year old that start right above their eyebrows. Its like.... uh huh....SURE.....

chip75 · 11-28-2022, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

I much prefer the old-fashioned way of putting some stockings over the lens though, gives the image an ethereal quality with that dreamy halation on highlights that's just gorgeous.

In the early days they used to poke eyes holes out with cigarettes! I'm sure this some amusing anecdote about actresses and different brands of stocking, but I can't recall it.

4K TV hasn't done everyone favours, the old saying "a face for radio", could have added, "a standard definition complexion"!

Must be awfully stressful for those in the industry. You start filming and some intern starts sticking CG trackers on your face, "We'll clear this up in post, luv ..." as you're going for your Oscar moment.

slumcat · 11-28-2022, 08:09 PM

Look at Tom Cruise in Maverick compared to him on the red carpet.

On the red carpet I can buy him as a man in mid-50s. The skin, wrinkles, complexion while better than most mid-50 yr olds still shows age and wear and tear.

Watch him in Maverick - looks the ultimate movie star - perfectly handsome in nearly every single shot.

So obviously something's being done.

cheez avenger · 11-28-2022, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by stvn1974

I read an article several years ago about how makeup artists had to basically go back to school to learn how to apply makeup when HD TV became a thing. I guess CGing their faces would be easier.

This is true and having spent some time in the industry doing make-up special FX, we did learn how to do this type of make up. The technique was almost like the technique they use for newscasters and anchormen/women. You gotta cake that shit on like you wouldn't believe. Now with digital filters, there's some leeway. You cake it on as much as possible and the filter fills in the rest.

levcore · 11-29-2022, 06:34 AM

I think the tech has obviously improved since they started trying to do this stuff and with most new movies being shot digitally, it certainly helps them filter the crap out of actors faces, but it is still really distracting.

Watching slightly older movies from the 00's that are shot on film, the smoothing really sticks out as you have lots of film grain visible then big smooth blotches on (usually female) faces, under their eyes, their cheeks etc. I wish i'd started taking pics of this every time i see it so i could post some specific examples.

Markgway · 11-29-2022, 10:45 AM

More proof that CG is a cancer and its spreading.

chip75 · 11-29-2022, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Markgway

More proof that CG is a cancer and its spreading.

It's just a tool, it can either be used well or poorly.

I guess what we're seeing now in motion is what we've been seeing on magazine covers and photoshoots for decades. It's just evolved with tech.

Markgway · 11-30-2022, 10:54 AM

Meh. I can still do without it.

mwynn · 12-07-2022, 05:41 PM

Is this what you are talking about?

levcore · 12-08-2022, 07:12 AM

LOL yes, man that looks awful.

Markgway · 12-08-2022, 10:12 AM

Why are those five mannequins eating lunch?

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11-28-2022, 03:59 PM	#22
Zivouhr Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Dec 2011 Location:USA 4K collection:3 Blu-ray collection:127	I almost never notice they use computers to smooth things over for older actresses and actors in movies (other than with Jurassic Park and Predator's smoothing of faces from film grain) unless they're de-aged like Michael Douglas in Ant-Man 1, or Indiana Jones 5, yet to be released. With Sandra Bullock appeared in Bullet Train, I thought she looked young for her age at 58, or had plastic surgery or something. I guess it's possible without any adjustments, but good eyes if able to see she is being digitally altered in that scene. I didn't know, but also didn't care. A replacement these days for heavy make up. Once old age starts taking over, best to just go with it and accept it, or forever be worried about it. It's tough for these actors who want to appear young all the time.

11-28-2022, 08:09 PM	#25
slumcat Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2009	Look at Tom Cruise in Maverick compared to him on the red carpet. On the red carpet I can buy him as a man in mid-50s. The skin, wrinkles, complexion while better than most mid-50 yr olds still shows age and wear and tear. Watch him in Maverick - looks the ultimate movie star - perfectly handsome in nearly every single shot. So obviously something's being done.

11-29-2022, 06:34 AM	#27
levcore Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Jun 2011 Location:Dryland 4K collection:237 Blu-ray collection:2349 Trading Score:3	I think the tech has obviously improved since they started trying to do this stuff and with most new movies being shot digitally, it certainly helps them filter the crap out of actors faces, but it is still really distracting. Watching slightly older movies from the 00's that are shot on film, the smoothing really sticks out as you have lots of film grain visible then big smooth blotches on (usually female) faces, under their eyes, their cheeks etc. I wish i'd started taking pics of this every time i see it so i could post some specific examples.

11-29-2022, 10:45 AM	#28
Markgway Blu-ray Duke Member since:Jul 2013 Location:Scotland Trading Score:12	More proof that CG is a cancer and its spreading.

11-30-2022, 10:54 AM	#30
Markgway Blu-ray Duke Member since:Jul 2013 Location:Scotland Trading Score:12	Meh. I can still do without it.

12-08-2022, 07:12 AM	#32
levcore Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Jun 2011 Location:Dryland 4K collection:237 Blu-ray collection:2349 Trading Score:3	LOL yes, man that looks awful.

12-08-2022, 10:12 AM	#33
Markgway Blu-ray Duke Member since:Jul 2013 Location:Scotland Trading Score:12	Why are those five mannequins eating lunch?

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