Best Blu-ray Movie Deals


Best Blu-ray Movie Deals, See All the Deals »
Top deals | New deals  
 All countries United States United Kingdom Canada Germany France Spain Italy Australia Netherlands Japan Mexico
Three Colors 4K (Blu-ray)
$87.49
15 hrs ago
Plane 4K (Blu-ray)
$25.07
23 hrs ago
Westworld: Season Four 4K (Blu-ray)
$31.49
5 hrs ago
Universal Classic Monsters: Icons of Horror Collection Vol. 2 4K (Blu-ray)
$38.99
 
The Jackie Chan Collection: Volume 2 (1983-1993) (Blu-ray)
$80.99
 
Spoiler Alert (Blu-ray)
$22.96
16 hrs ago
The Walking Dead: The Complete Eleventh Season (Blu-ray)
$49.99
 
Shazam! 4K (Blu-ray)
$13.99
1 day ago
Three Thousand Years of Longing (Blu-ray)
$16.09
13 hrs ago
Heart of Dragon (Blu-ray)
$26.99
 
Nobody (Blu-ray)
$6.99
1 day ago
Don't Worry Darling (Blu-ray)
$14.96
18 hrs ago
What's your next favorite movie?
Join our movie community to find out


Image from: Life of Pi (2012)

Go Back   Blu-ray Forum > Movies > Movies

View Poll Results: Way of the Water box office predictions
Under 1 billion 18 18.75%
1 billion to 1.5 billion 21 21.88%
1.5 billion to 2 billion 22 22.92%
More than two billion 35 36.46%
Voters: 96. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-25-2022, 12:45 PM   #41
kwisatzhaderach kwisatzhaderach is offline
Expert Member
 
kwisatzhaderach's Avatar
 
Mar 2016
Default

$2.1 billion
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2022, 05:30 AM   #42
whfan007 whfan007 is offline
Junior Member
 
Nov 2022
Default

1.8 billion.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2022, 06:43 AM   #43
raptors661 raptors661 is offline
Special Member
 
raptors661's Avatar
 
Sep 2012
The Frozen North
269
1542
555
3
Default

There are less than 20 tickets sold total for opening weekend at my theater. Endgame was mostly sold out at this point.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2022, 07:04 AM   #44
captveg captveg is offline
Blu-ray Champion
 
captveg's Avatar
 
Feb 2008
339
1583
336
1
Default

I don't see this reaching the $700m Domestic of the first film, as Americans seem the most cynical about movies they've been in decades. However, it'll be interesting to see how this does internationally, where the first film made $2b of its $2.7b.

When I saw Glass Onion today the people behind me were talking about Avatar TWoW before the movie and one lady told her friends it needs to make $2b to break even, so there's already the narrative out there among the general public that no matter how much money it makes it will be a disappointment for Disney.

Like I said, an incredibly cynical public for movies in the US these days.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2022, 01:34 PM   #45
Lee A Stewart Lee A Stewart is online now
Blu-ray Champion
 
Lee A Stewart's Avatar
 
Jan 2019
Albuquerque, NM
Default

I don't see this movie crossing $1.5 billion total because of the situation in China with the COVID lockdowns. China would be worth at least $500M and that may not happen.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2022, 04:50 PM   #46
s2mikey s2mikey is offline
Blu-ray Champion
 
s2mikey's Avatar
 
Nov 2008
Upstate, NY
93
277
39
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by captveg View Post
I don't see this reaching the $700m Domestic of the first film, as Americans seem the most cynical about movies they've been in decades. However, it'll be interesting to see how this does internationally, where the first film made $2b of its $2.7b.

When I saw Glass Onion today the people behind me were talking about Avatar TWoW before the movie and one lady told her friends it needs to make $2b to break even, so there's already the narrative out there among the general public that no matter how much money it makes it will be a disappointment for Disney.

Like I said, an incredibly cynical public for movies in the US these days.
Agreed. I have to say, there is a chance that this just doesnt work out the way Jim is hoping. I mean, if anyone can pull it off its probably him but its hard not to see the potential issues. Lets review:

1) 13 years is an eternity for "waiting" on sequels to come out, especially in this day and age of binging and instant gratification. Some people have certainly moved on or arent making Avatar a priority in 2022/2023. The original isnt old enough to stoke some nostalgic fire like The recent Top Gun film did. Its too "new" for that but is also sort of "old" to be cranking out sequels now. Its just strange timing.

2) The first one was as much of a perfect timing thing as it was anything else. It all came together and just worked. A lot has changed since then. Pretty visuals arent enough anymore. The plot was never deep or thought provoking, it was very much cookie-cutter although well executed.

3) People are struggling right now financially. Entertainment dollars have a lot of options now, moreso than in 2009. And for some folks gas in their car or food on the table trumps going to see a sequel to a film franchise that they may or may not quite remember much about.

4) Aging directors dont have the best track record. Like I said, James is maybe the one that can pull it off but as we painfully watched Ridley Scott embarrass himself over the last several years & destroy the Aliens franchise this concern can be applied here. I dont believe it will happen but its a fair point to ponder.

Of course, we'll find out .
  Reply With Quote
Thanks given by:
lupinskitten (11-27-2022)
Old 11-26-2022, 10:17 PM   #47
Zivouhr Zivouhr is offline
Blu-ray Archduke
 
Zivouhr's Avatar
 
Dec 2011
USA
3
127
Default

About 1.5 billion sounds reasonable. It already has an established fanbase, and movies like Spider-Man No Way Home proves movies can make a lot of money in theaters again, and that wasn't even a very good Marvel movie IMO.

If he can make 3 billion, that would be good for his hopes to bring out 5 movies instead of only 3 more according to his statements about the box office.

When he said it needs 2 billion to break even cause he spent too much on it, that's not a great statement to make since he spent 14 years just to make a sequel where costs have seriously risen in all that time for movie making. That's his fault. The other films don't matter if this one doesn't do well.

Waterworld could be the result, you never know. But the chances are good this will do as well as the first Avatar 1 3D film in 2009/2010.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2022, 12:11 AM   #48
lupinskitten lupinskitten is offline
Senior Member
 
lupinskitten's Avatar
 
Sep 2011
USA
303
155
9
Default

Cameron could have made the movie half as long for half as much money, and then wouldn't have to make so much at the box office to earn a profit on it. It coming out in the middle of a recession with inflation the highest it's been in 40 years won't help him, neither will the fact that people have fallen out of the habit of going to movies due to streaming and the pandemic.

I think it will be BIG, but maybe not repeat-business huge, the way the first one was. People don't have the money to spend like they did fifteen years ago.
  Reply With Quote
Thanks given by:
s2mikey (11-27-2022)
Old 11-27-2022, 02:21 AM   #49
prkchopexpress prkchopexpress is offline
Blu-ray Samurai
 
prkchopexpress's Avatar
 
May 2016
91
1389
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by s2mikey View Post
Agreed. I have to say, there is a chance that this just doesnt work out the way Jim is hoping. I mean, if anyone can pull it off its probably him but its hard not to see the potential issues. Lets review:

1) 13 years is an eternity for "waiting" on sequels to come out, especially in this day and age of binging and instant gratification.
you keep saying the first one came out 13 years ago. but the first top gun came out 36 years ago.

people are so just eager for something to fail. (but if you something like that about marvel movie everyone loses their minds)

why? do people just want to pretend for predicting one of two outcomes? wow. what deep insight you have. that’s totally way more impressive than flipping a coin.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2022, 05:37 AM   #50
Kenbar Kenbar is offline
Senior Member
 
Oct 2014
Default

I placed me bet on 2 billion+. Maybe I should just call it a hope...like to see 3D TV's make a come back. Huge show of interest might make some manufacture decide to do a run. Or maybe we might at least get a 3D bluray release from Disney.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2022, 11:20 AM   #51
s2mikey s2mikey is offline
Blu-ray Champion
 
s2mikey's Avatar
 
Nov 2008
Upstate, NY
93
277
39
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by prkchopexpress View Post
you keep saying the first one came out 13 years ago. but the first top gun came out 36 years ago.

people are so just eager for something to fail. (but if you something like that about marvel movie everyone loses their minds)

why? do people just want to pretend for predicting one of two outcomes? wow. what deep insight you have. that’s totally way more impressive than flipping a coin.
Ahh, but I also mentioned that Top Gun was old enough to stoke the nostalgic fires and that’s another factor here. Avatar isn’t old enough for that. It’s lingering in the middle: too new for nostalgia, too old to be fresh in peoples minds.

Why do you assume I want it to fail? Where ya getting that from? I just brought up some valid points that could play a role in it not being the end all in life or the film industry. I own the first film and watch it fairly regularly. I don’t want it to fail, I’d like it to be good actually. But all the reasons I highlighted are legit. Unless you aren’t up on current events.

Coin flip? Nope, just might not make the two billion that Jim is hoping for. Again, not sure where you’re getting all this from.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2022, 12:13 PM   #52
kwisatzhaderach kwisatzhaderach is offline
Expert Member
 
kwisatzhaderach's Avatar
 
Mar 2016
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by raptors661 View Post
There are less than 20 tickets sold total for opening weekend at my theater. Endgame was mostly sold out at this point.
Fanboys always pre-book to see Marvel productions as early as possible. Avatar will have a much longer run at the box office.

Curiously Cameron has more followers on Twitter than Feige, wouldn't have expected that.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2022, 02:05 AM   #53
ctujackbauer ctujackbauer is online now
Blu-ray Samurai
 
ctujackbauer's Avatar
 
Apr 2016
4
Default

I'm not even sure it hits the $150 million tracking at this point, possibly even less than my guess of a $140 million domestic opening weekend.

There are only one or two sold out shows at AMC (Dolby Cinema 3D and IMAX Laser 3D, most likely they are A-List subscribers) and the rest of the standard or 3D shows that have sold nearly no tickets. Harkins has a couple of sold out Cine1 theaters and a 3D HFR sold a quarter of the seats. And Regal... not many tickets in any theater.

I hope the reviews are good.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2022, 02:13 AM   #54
Zivouhr Zivouhr is offline
Blu-ray Archduke
 
Zivouhr's Avatar
 
Dec 2011
USA
3
127
Default

The opening weekend is critical for Avatar 2 and an indicator of the film's potential. Sort of like when Force Awakens Star Wars was released in 2015. The curiosity to see the new film in a dormant series is a big part of the appeal. After that, it relies on those who really enjoyed it and then want to see the sequels.

I hope the film does well, because the better it does in theaters for all the 3D shows, the more chance there could be of a blu ray 3D set potentially somewhere in the world hopefully. The 3D looks promising.

The film will probably be entertaining, and if anyone can deliver, it would be James Cameron's track record.

He really hasn't made a lot of movies though compared to other top listed directors.

1982 Piranha II: The Spawning Saturn International Pictures / Columbia Pictures
1984 The Terminator Orion Pictures
1986 Aliens 20th Century Fox
1989 The Abyss
1991 Terminator 2: Judgment Day TriStar Pictures
1994 True Lies 20th Century Fox / Universal Pictures
1997 Titanic Paramount Pictures / 20th Century Fox
2009 Avatar 20th Century Fox
2022 Avatar: The Way of Water
2024 Avatar 3
2026 Avatar 4
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2022, 02:22 AM   #55
-JKR- -JKR- is offline
Blu-ray Samurai
 
Jul 2014
Default

The movie will do well.
  Reply With Quote
Thanks given by:
Jay H. (11-28-2022)
Old 11-28-2022, 02:24 AM   #56
avs commenter avs commenter is offline
Blu-ray Samurai
 
Apr 2018
8
Default

Does the 3D up charge help this make another $50 million than it would otherwise
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2022, 02:32 AM   #57
brooks101189 brooks101189 is offline
Blu-ray Ninja
 
brooks101189's Avatar
 
Jan 2010
My Home
102
Default

I think it's gonna do well.

But I think that run-time is gonna be a deal breaker for some.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2022, 02:32 AM   #58
captveg captveg is offline
Blu-ray Champion
 
captveg's Avatar
 
Feb 2008
339
1583
336
1
Default

It helps the film that there is zero real competition until Ant-Man is released two months later.

If people want to see a movie over the holidays with their families this is practically the only choice.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2022, 01:21 PM   #59
Hedrox Hedrox is offline
Blu-ray Guru
 
Hedrox's Avatar
 
Nov 2012
86
765
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by captveg View Post
It helps the film that there is zero real competition until Ant-Man is released two months later.

If people want to see a movie over the holidays with their families this is practically the only choice.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2022, 02:13 PM   #60
s2mikey s2mikey is offline
Blu-ray Champion
 
s2mikey's Avatar
 
Nov 2008
Upstate, NY
93
277
39
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by brooks101189 View Post
I think it's gonna do well.

But I think that run-time is gonna be a deal breaker for some.
It can be. Its rare that a film can pull it off, like the LOTR movies. But those are the exception, not the norm. Theaters hate 3 hour movies. Its a long time for people to sit still, especially kids/teens.

Thats why I asked about the return of intermissions. I think its a great idea and they can run some ads during it if they wanted.
  Reply With Quote
Reply
Go Back   Blu-ray Forum > Movies > Movies


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:57 AM.