Krzyżacy (Knights of the Teutonic Order) 1960

[karsten]

So I'm interested in this film, but -- please correct me if I'm wrong -- it has only been issued once on blu-ray, in this version:



https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Knigh...lu-ray/290444/

However, that is not a separate release at all (if I understand the matter correctly) but can only be obtained as part of an 8-movie boxed set:



https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Marti...lu-ray/141331/

Is that right?

And what's worse, that set seems to be very hard to get.

Would anyone know of, perhaps, any domestic Polish blu-ray releases that I might have missed?


Otherwise, I'm only seeing a number of DVD versions; e.g.:





Has anyone perhaps viewed the various DVD issues and compared them? Would anyone happen to know if either (or if still another) feature better picture quality, or a longer cut?

I can understand Polish reasonably well, so I'd sacrifice English subtitles for a better print (if any of them are, in fact, superior).

[Doomhunter]

Originally Posted by karsten

So I'm interested in this film, but -- please correct me if I'm wrong -- it has only been issued once on blu-ray, in this version:



https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Knigh...lu-ray/290444/

However, that is not a separate release at all (if I understand the matter correctly) but can only be obtained as part of an 8-movie boxed set:



https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Marti...lu-ray/141331/

Is that right?

And what's worse, that set seems to be very hard to get.

Would anyone know of, perhaps, any domestic Polish blu-ray releases that I might have missed?


Otherwise, I'm only seeing a number of DVD versions; e.g.:





Has anyone perhaps viewed the various DVD issues and compared them? Would anyone happen to know if either (or if still another) feature better picture quality, or a longer cut?

I can understand Polish reasonably well, so I'd sacrifice English subtitles for a better print (if any of them are, in fact, superior).

Looks like this is being released on blu in France tomorrow, unfortunately no English subs. But hopefully someone else can license it

[karsten]

I ordered it. I probably should have first waited to see if it's been grotesquely re-graded in urine-yellow and sallow-green colour filtering, as so many "remastered" blu-rays are. But I took a chance, mostly because . . .

https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B0B5KXGRJN/



. . . of this interesting tidbit on the amazon.fr site:

- le Blu-ray du film (172'40")
- le DVD du film (165'44")

Seven minutes longer seems too much to be accounted for by any sort of PAL/NTSC differences and suggests that the blu-ray might have some footage that the (numerous) extant DVDs do not. I believe that their run times are all around the 166 minute mark.

[f451]

Originally Posted by karsten

Seven minutes longer seems too much to be accounted for by any sort of PAL/NTSC differences and suggests that the blu-ray might have some footage that the (numerous) extant DVDs do not. I believe that their run times are all around the 166 minute mark.

I'm totally unfamiliar with Krzyżacy but since it has a three hour length -- just guessing -- perhaps the time differential comes from additional music -- overture, intermission, entr'acte, exit? Again, no idea.

FilmPolski info page in Google translation.

If you want to preview before buying, the film can be seen on YouTube.

Krzyżacy (1960) (AKA Black Cross) (AKA Knights of the Teutonic Order) - YouTube

[djvaso]

Originally Posted by karsten

I ordered it. I probably should have first waited to see if it's been grotesquely re-graded in urine-yellow and sallow-green colour filtering, as so many "remastered" blu-rays are. But I took a chance, mostly because . . .

https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B0B5KXGRJN/



. . . of this interesting tidbit on the amazon.fr site:



Seven minutes longer seems too much to be accounted for by any sort of PAL/NTSC differences and suggests that the blu-ray might have some footage that the (numerous) extant DVDs do not. I believe that their run times are all around the 166 minute mark.

172'40" = 10360s x 24f/s = 248640 frames
165'44" = 9964s x 25f/s = 248600 frames
They are the same.

[karsten]

Originally Posted by djvaso

172'40" = 10360s x 24f/s = 248640 frames
165'44" = 9964s x 25f/s = 248600 frames
They are the same.

My goodness. It's shocking what a time difference that makes.