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Old 10-15-2022, 06:43 PM   #1
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Default The Piano 1993 (Australian Release)

I live in Canada and recently acquired a Region A+B+C Blu-ray copy of "The Piano" from Dendy Heart/Icon Home Entertainment of Australia. (UPC code 9-339065-002317)

This disc does not play on my PS3, my SONY Blu-ray (BDP-S1100) nor my newer SONY BDP-S6700 4K Upconvert player.

The disc is in mint shape, no blemishes on the data side. Is the disc mislabelled as A+B+C or is the disc just defective?

I understand A+B+C Blu-ray should play in any North American Blu-ray player
and the whole PAL/NTSC factor is non-existent for the Blu-ray format.

Anyone else have this title that might be able to suggest why it doesn't play?
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I live in Canada and recently acquired a Region A+B+C Blu-ray copy of "The Piano" from Dendy Heart/Icon Home Entertainment of Australia. (UPC code 9-339065-002317)

This disc does not play on my PS3, my SONY Blu-ray (BDP-S1100) nor my newer SONY BDP-S6700 4K Upconvert player.

The disc is in mint shape, no blemishes on the data side. Is the disc mislabelled as A+B+C or is the disc just defective?

I understand A+B+C Blu-ray should play in any North American Blu-ray player
and the whole PAL/NTSC factor is non-existent for the Blu-ray format.

Anyone else have this title that might be able to suggest why it doesn't play?
The disc is a 50 Hz transfer. If your equipment can't handle 50 Hz then it won't matter if they're capable of playing region-locked discs or not.
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I live in Canada and recently acquired a Region A+B+C Blu-ray copy of "The Piano" from Dendy Heart/Icon Home Entertainment of Australia. (UPC code 9-339065-002317)

This disc does not play on my PS3, my SONY Blu-ray (BDP-S1100) nor my newer SONY BDP-S6700 4K Upconvert player.

The disc is in mint shape, no blemishes on the data side. Is the disc mislabelled as A+B+C or is the disc just defective?

I understand A+B+C Blu-ray should play in any North American Blu-ray player
and the whole PAL/NTSC factor is non-existent for the Blu-ray format.

Anyone else have this title that might be able to suggest why it doesn't play?
I'm simply interested, was something wrong/ different about the recent Criterion Blu-ray?
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The disc is a 50 Hz transfer. If your equipment can't handle 50 Hz then it won't matter if they're capable of playing region-locked discs or not.
Thanks for that info! I didn't realize the whole PAL/NTSC concept with standard def became a 50 Hz/60 Hz version with Blu-ray.

I dug-out an old Samsung player and the disc played just fine!

It's a bit disconcerting as I have bought several overseas Blu-ray discs labeled as A+B+C and they have all played on my SONY. Unless you do your research I guess there's no way of knowing from the packaging whether a disc is 60 Hz compatible.

I picked-up this copy of "The Piano" at a thrift store, saw the A+B+C designation on the packaging and just assumed I could play it.
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Unless you do your research I guess there's no way of knowing from the packaging whether a disc is 60 Hz compatible.
It was more common in the early days of the format with 1080i/50Hz discs in the PAL territories and similarly 1080i/60Hz discs in NTSC territories when usually many smaller labels were using older masters. Not that it doesn't happen nowadays but it has become a lot less frequent, thankfully. Still sucks when it is a popular albeit rare title on that format.

Some labels do note it on the back cover, others you have to gauge it by looking at the runtime which may or may not be correct as they may as well have carried the specs over from its DVD counterpart. Having access to the blu-ray database is always handy, or alternatively dvdcompare, assuming the title is present, not to mention with correct specs entered.

Fortunately you found a way to play it.
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