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Old 01-10-2022, 02:48 AM   #41
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I really want to see the documentary, but I hate what I'm seeing of what Jackson has done to the film...I'm torn. It sounds like this is really worth watching, but I also don't want people to think I condone these sorts of shitty remastering processes.

EDIT: I found this comparison shot and actually laughed out loud:

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Whatever they did to the color is also really off-putting here. Look at how much more accurate the green and especially the red colors look versus what they changed them to. I'm not sure how the windows went from clear to teal, but given that there is no teal in the old shot, I have to conclude it's revisionist, too. There are even inconsistencies in the shots about what is brighter and what is dimmer from shot to shot, like the cardboard box and the guy cut off on the right hand side.

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“OMG! The Mona Lisa has never looked better!”
"People in 2021 wouldn't have even looked at the Mona Lisa if I hadn't fixed it."
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You could buy the DVD. The DNR wouldn't be as apparent on that.
Then you get twilight zone wax dummies with built-in edge enhancement and extra compression artifacts! So good!
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Old 01-10-2022, 03:28 PM   #47
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So I suppose my skepticism around They Shall Not Grow Old (which I still haven’t seen) had some validity, but at least that wasn’t pretending to be the real image, with the colourisation process.

If anything I’m glad the theatrical component was scrapped as could you imagine watching that amount of DNR on a cinema screen?
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So I suppose my skepticism around They Shall Not Grow Old (which I still haven’t seen) had some validity, but at least that wasn’t pretending to be the real image, with the colourisation process.

If anything I’m glad the theatrical component was scrapped as could you imagine watching that amount of DNR on a cinema screen?
I've said the same things about TSNGO, it does indeed share several attributes with Get Back but as the whole degrain/uprez/colourisation/3D conversion package was the point of it then it gets a pass. Fair enough. But what it did do was permit Jackson to indulge in his fetish for "modernising" visuals and get lauded for it, so now emboldened he's going to use this on everything and his appalling taste is out there for all to see, treating professionally shot 24fps 16mm from 50 years ago as if it were twice that age and stemmed from what was the dawn of the moving image. Berk.

As for the theatrical component, the rooftop concert is getting a one-off IMAX showing and now it makes sense as to why that rooftop footage in Get Back suddenly reverts to a 1.33-ish aspect when for the previous 7 hours they were happy to crop (and tilt and scan it!) to 1.78. I think it was shot mostly on 35 which is why even with all those same "processes" applied it looks far betterer than the 16 stuff. Still verr unnatural, but easier on the eye.
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I'm dreading how The Frighteners 4K is gonna turn out.
At least, The Frighteners 4K was done externally by Turbine, PJ only had to approve it.
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Old 01-11-2022, 01:26 PM   #50
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At least, The Frighteners 4K was done externally by Turbine, PJ only had to approve it.
Really? They did it in house? That's great news...as long as it's a proper 4K transfer from the negative and not one of turbine's weird AI upscale/regrain jobbies. (Yes I know, I'm moaning about PJ murderising the grain but also moaning about turbine adding fake grain/detail, whaddayagonnado?)
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This is showing as "temporarily out of stock" on Amazon UK.

Though I wouldn't be at all surprised if a "collector's edition" comes out around Christmas with a 4K UHD disc and the original Let It Be film included.
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This is showing as "temporarily out of stock" on Amazon UK.

Though I wouldn't be at all surprised if a "collector's edition" comes out around Christmas with a 4K UHD disc and the original Let It Be film included.
This seems to be Amazon's latest bit of nonsense.
For "temporarily out of stock" read "hasn't been released yet."
The Lovers! film, Stage Fright - they're all temporarily out of stock. You know maybe they'll get some stock in when somebody bothers to magic the things into existence - this is always possible.
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This is showing as "temporarily out of stock" on Amazon UK.

Though I wouldn't be at all surprised if a "collector's edition" comes out around Christmas with a 4K UHD disc and the original Let It Be film included.
It is available to order if in U.K.

Almost certainly the block on foreign addresses for preorders.
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It is available to order if in U.K.

Almost certainly the block on foreign addresses for preorders.
Well I'm in the UK and it's showing as "temporarily out of stock" for me on Amazon.
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Well I'm in the UK and it's showing as "temporarily out of stock" for me on Amazon.
Yep, same here. At least, I'm in Liverpool, which usually counts as the UK.
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True, out of stock. Glad I got my preorder in yesterday.
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I quite honestly hated the way this looked, I was visiting family for Christmas and watched it on their TV, so at first I thought it was that, but I did the time honoured thing of adjusting all the TV settings when they were out of the room, but it still looked rubbish! At least now seeing this thread I know I wasn't going insane...

One the plus side, it really is an interesting film, and I know there was 'so much footage' that he couldn't make it shorter, but it really was a bit too long. The last hour was brilliant though, all of those grumpy old men in bowler hats moaning to the police while everyone else was loving it. Felt sorry for that one copper "it's not on is it?" he knew he had no chance
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I quite honestly hated the way this looked, I was visiting family for Christmas and watched it on their TV, so at first I thought it was that, but I did the time honoured thing of adjusting all the TV settings when they were out of the room, but it still looked rubbish! At least now seeing this thread I know I wasn't going insane...

One the plus side, it really is an interesting film, and I know there was 'so much footage' that he couldn't make it shorter, but it really was a bit too long. The last hour was brilliant though, all of those grumpy old men in bowler hats moaning to the police while everyone else was loving it. Felt sorry for that one copper "it's not on is it?" he knew he had no chance
Ironically enough there's not enough footage to cover what Jackson's actually showing, I think the audio recordings were 3x as long as the concurrent film recordings, so Jackson has to repeat and loop and generally massage the footage he's got to try and tell 'the story'. Thankfully there was no way he could bodge any footage to match the audio of Paul and John having a chat in the canteen, so that plays out against still images.
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Ironically enough there's not enough footage to cover what Jackson's actually showing, I think the audio recordings were 3x as long as the concurrent film recordings, so Jackson has to repeat and loop and generally massage the footage he's got to try and tell 'the story'. Thankfully there was no way he could bodge any footage to match the audio of Paul and John having a chat in the canteen, so that plays out against still images.
Lots of conversations played out over footage of Ringo looking bemused, confused or bored... surely there was something better to have on the screen
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I'm a huge Beatles fan, but I can't imagine sitting through this whole thing again. I'd prefer to see a highlights version with an indexed disc of just music performances.
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