Shawscope Volume Two (Shaw Brothers) - November 21, 2022 - Page 2 - Blu-ray Forum

grim_tales · 08-10-2022, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by the13thman

Another easy pass for me. Discs need to be stored with nothing touching the playing surface, I utterly loathe these book-style sets.

I hoped this would mean a re-release of Vol. 1 in standard packaging, maybe I should just get a 10 disc BD case and use that instead

Vol. 2 does look a great set - I noticed it mentions a new scan of 36th Chamber, was the one in the HK boxset scanned in 4K years ago?

Killer Meteor · 08-10-2022, 10:31 AM

I do wonder...how do they decide what gets a new 2K master and what doesn't? It's kind of a shame that titles like Return to 36th Chamber and Bare Footed Kid are stuck with 4min+ of frame-cuts.

The Mole · 08-10-2022, 10:43 AM

Maybe it is about what materials are still available. Could be that some of the original negatives have fallen victim to vinegar syndrome or other fatal deterioration in the last couple of years.

Michael Harper · 08-10-2022, 10:55 AM

Do we know when Arrow plan to officially announce this?

Bes30 · 08-10-2022, 10:57 AM

Mad Monkey Kung Fu will most likely have to be cut over here for animal cruelty. Some quite unpleasant material in it if memory serves. The film would play better without this stuff though, at least imo.

the13thman · 08-10-2022, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by WaverBoy

There’s nothing not to love about this set.

Except the way you have to drag the playing surface of the discs across the packaging to get them in and out. That's definitely something not to love.

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Originally Posted by grim_tales

I hoped this would mean a re-release of Vol. 1 in standard packaging, maybe I should just get a 10 disc BD case and use that instead

That's what I usually do with awfully packaged disc-scratching sets, transfer the discs to a proper box. However, I have no need for the CDs and I am tired of these useless big boxes piling up so if Arrow release normally packaged regular editions of these sets, I'll happily buy them. Otherwise, I'll spend my money on something else.

Killer Meteor · 08-10-2022, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bes30

Mad Monkey Kung Fu will most likely have to be cut over here for animal cruelty. Some quite unpleasant material in it if memory serves. The film would play better without this stuff though, at least imo.

The UK VHS was uncut, I think. The BBFC site makes no mention of cuts, but then that site is useless.

Bes30 · 08-10-2022, 11:33 AM

Intriguing. Perhaps it'll be complete after all then? One fairly lengthy sequence looked a bit rough to me when I watched the region 1 dvd (which I sold, so I can't check it now). Who knows with the BBFC these days?

Killer Meteor · 08-10-2022, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by The Mole

Maybe it is about what materials are still available. Could be that some of the original negatives have fallen victim to vinegar syndrome or other fatal deterioration in the last couple of years.

I'd assume Bare Footed Kid, from 1993, wouldn't be such a title.

Killer Meteor · 08-10-2022, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by OldPangYau

Oh, I do a deep dive on the clusterf*** of them trying to make the film, lol.

They never should have let those MPs vist the set...

One silly reason I am rather fond of this movie.

Listen to the music in this scene at 0:40

Then listen to the music here at 9:13

Spenserian · 08-10-2022, 11:55 AM

I wish there were somewhat fewer films that had been released before, although the new scans and restorations add appeal. The 36th Chamber films have received numerous previous releases, for instance, although apparently the 4k scan of the first film is excellent. Mad Monkey Kung Fu had a German Blu-ray release, but without any subtitles and with only Chinese and German audio options. Invincible Shaolin, The Kid With the Golden Arm, Magnificent Ruffians and Ten Tigers of Kwan Tung have all received German releases, all except for Invincible Shaolin with English subtitles. The Bare-Footed kid had a French release (no English subtitles) and Martial Arts of Shaolin a particularly bad (in terms of PQ) German release. Still, including a so-so film like The Bare-Footed Kid that already has a previous release seems unfortunate to me (it's likely to tie in to their Johnny To releases).

Going by popular opinion (gleemed from Letterboxd, IMDB and Kung fu forums), the line-up has 4 all time-classics: The 36th Chamber of Shaolin, Mad Monkey Kung Fu, My Young Auntie and The Boxer's Omen. Five Superfighters and Mercenaries from Hong Kong are lesser known films with some fans who claim they are top shelf. Martial Arts of Shaolin has great Lau Kar Leung choreography, especially in its amazing finale, and the young Jet Li, but suffers from a weak middle. The four Venom films included are generally considered middle of the road, with only The Kid with the Golden Arm sometimes considered one of their best. Take from that what you will. It’s still a definite pre-order from me. The extras line-up is especially impressive.

fatboyslim142 · 08-10-2022, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Killer Meteor

The UK VHS was uncut, I think. The BBFC site makes no mention of cuts, but then that site is useless.

Melon Farmers list a total of 28 seconds missing from it. So presume that the UK release will have the same or similar cuts to it. I just hope that the disc will be similar to the cut one in BOTH the Spaghetti Western & Poliziotteschi sets & play UNCUT if BD player is set to Region A.

bongozoid · 08-10-2022, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterVincent

Slightly off topic, but I don't suppose anyone knows how many of these boxsets they're planning on?

They have only planned for the two sets.

Killer Meteor · 08-10-2022, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by fatboyslim142

Melon Farmers list a total of 28 seconds missing from it. So presume that the UK release will have the same or similar cuts to it. I just hope that the disc will be similar to the cut one in BOTH the Spaghetti Western & Poliziotteschi sets & play UNCUT if BD player is set to Region A.

I would have thought so. Be good to get confirmation from Arrow before I buy!

MifuneFan · 08-10-2022, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bongozoid

They have only planned for the two sets.

That was the original plan, but a little.while.back on Twitter, James Flower seemed to imply that there will be more in the future.

grim_tales · 08-10-2022, 12:59 PM

Hopefully there's a custom cover for these sets out there

(If I have to go down that route)

BikerMarty · 08-10-2022, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben_C

Released the same day as the World Cup starts

But great news nonetheless.

Brilliant.

Plenty of free time, for me, to watch these movies, then

Irongod2112 · 08-10-2022, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterVincent

Looks great, I'll definitely pick this up!

Slightly off topic, but I don't suppose anyone knows how many of these boxsets they're planning on? There's a load of 88 Shaw films I've got on my list and I've held off after they had Mighty Peking Man on Vol:1 so I'm trying to avoid duplicates.

There's definitely more sets coming.

russweiss1 · 08-10-2022, 02:05 PM

Volume 2 has a lot more titles I want compared to Volume 1.

Ky-Fi · 08-10-2022, 02:28 PM

I already have the 36th Chamber trilogy on BD from Celestial, and I also have KWTGA and Magnificent Ruffians on German Blu. I lean more towards Shaws 60s/70's swordplay and early 70's kung fu, so this set doesn't grab me as much as the first one did, but there are still enough titles I like for me to pick it up.

Looking forward to it.

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08-10-2022, 10:31 AM	#22
Killer Meteor Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jan 2013 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:-	I do wonder...how do they decide what gets a new 2K master and what doesn't? It's kind of a shame that titles like Return to 36th Chamber and Bare Footed Kid are stuck with 4min+ of frame-cuts.

08-10-2022, 10:43 AM	#23
The Mole Special Member Member since:May 2014	Maybe it is about what materials are still available. Could be that some of the original negatives have fallen victim to vinegar syndrome or other fatal deterioration in the last couple of years.

08-10-2022, 10:55 AM	#24
Michael Harper Senior Member Member since:Aug 2010 Location:Liverpool, England 4K collection:46 Blu-ray collection:46	Do we know when Arrow plan to officially announce this?

08-10-2022, 10:57 AM	#25
Bes30 Senior Member Member since:Sep 2013	Mad Monkey Kung Fu will most likely have to be cut over here for animal cruelty. Some quite unpleasant material in it if memory serves. The film would play better without this stuff though, at least imo.

08-10-2022, 11:33 AM	#28
Bes30 Senior Member Member since:Sep 2013	Intriguing. Perhaps it'll be complete after all then? One fairly lengthy sequence looked a bit rough to me when I watched the region 1 dvd (which I sold, so I can't check it now). Who knows with the BBFC these days?

08-10-2022, 11:55 AM	#31
Spenserian Member Member since:Jun 2020 4K collection:5 Blu-ray collection:420 DVD collection:3	I wish there were somewhat fewer films that had been released before, although the new scans and restorations add appeal. The 36th Chamber films have received numerous previous releases, for instance, although apparently the 4k scan of the first film is excellent. Mad Monkey Kung Fu had a German Blu-ray release, but without any subtitles and with only Chinese and German audio options. Invincible Shaolin, The Kid With the Golden Arm, Magnificent Ruffians and Ten Tigers of Kwan Tung have all received German releases, all except for Invincible Shaolin with English subtitles. The Bare-Footed kid had a French release (no English subtitles) and Martial Arts of Shaolin a particularly bad (in terms of PQ) German release. Still, including a so-so film like The Bare-Footed Kid that already has a previous release seems unfortunate to me (it's likely to tie in to their Johnny To releases). Going by popular opinion (gleemed from Letterboxd, IMDB and Kung fu forums), the line-up has 4 all time-classics: The 36th Chamber of Shaolin, Mad Monkey Kung Fu, My Young Auntie and The Boxer's Omen. Five Superfighters and Mercenaries from Hong Kong are lesser known films with some fans who claim they are top shelf. Martial Arts of Shaolin has great Lau Kar Leung choreography, especially in its amazing finale, and the young Jet Li, but suffers from a weak middle. The four Venom films included are generally considered middle of the road, with only The Kid with the Golden Arm sometimes considered one of their best. Take from that what you will. It’s still a definite pre-order from me. The extras line-up is especially impressive.

08-10-2022, 12:59 PM	#36
grim_tales Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2013 Location:St. Albans, UK	Hopefully there's a custom cover for these sets out there (If I have to go down that route)

08-10-2022, 02:05 PM	#39
russweiss1 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Feb 2012 Location:Southern California	Volume 2 has a lot more titles I want compared to Volume 1.

08-10-2022, 02:28 PM	#40
Ky-Fi Senior Member Member since:Feb 2016 Location:Cape Ann, MA USA	I already have the 36th Chamber trilogy on BD from Celestial, and I also have KWTGA and Magnificent Ruffians on German Blu. I lean more towards Shaws 60s/70's swordplay and early 70's kung fu, so this set doesn't grab me as much as the first one did, but there are still enough titles I like for me to pick it up. Looking forward to it.

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