Doctor Who: The Collection, Season 2 (William Hartnell Season 2)

[oddbox83]

Originally Posted by TwinCitiesBluFan

Peter Crocker, who does restoration work for these sets, confirmed on Twitter that The Lion was Vidfire'd this time, so I'm hoping it looks hugely better than it did previously.

I expect the newer restoration tools can tackle that massive scratch far better this time. They can't work miracles though!

It's the 1999 transfer. The print is in the US and, to be honest, the nasty crease/scratch may well have lost more emulsion in the intervening 20 years. Also, it would always be a sow's ear so limited resources directed elsewhere.

[hariseldon]

I had forgotten the 45 RRP instead of 50, but I would still expect the usual 5% or more discount sometime before release day. A couple £ one way or the other isn't going to make a lot of difference in the end. The much more US friendly exchange rate compared to most of 2020/2021 and June 2018 when the original LE released is far more helpful from this end (1.20 now vs nearly 1.45 June 2021 and 2018)

$60 or 70 2 or 3 times a year isn't going to stop me at this point which is what the last 5 seasons have cost.

It appears many of the earlier Collections I paid $45USD for but that was virtually all due to the increased postage costs (close to tripled) and Amazon wasn't adding US Tax yet.

[2-J]

Pre-ordered!

[Killer Meteor]

Looking forward to this immesely.

[mar3o]

I ordered my last set from Deff, which arrived in the US nicely packed, but I found out from another order that they don't replace scratched discs. So consider that if you've had issues with scratches.

I've got my pre-order in at Amazon's UK site for a change. The last few sets they've apparently been leaving pre-orders to the US open for the first couple days, then locking pre-orders out if you're not in the UK. If you get one in you should be good. I usually find out a day or two too late but this time I got one in in time.

[StuPod]

I guess the fact that the missing Crusade episodes are presented as telesnaps confirms that's likely to be the procedure for the rest of the non-animated stories.

Can't help but feel like some of the other 60s seasons with more missing stories are gonna feel a bit patchy.

[peskdale]

Looks like this release was initially green-lit back in 2019 alongside S26, S14 and (the also delayed) S17.

0477	Doctor Who - The Collection - Season 17 (Limited)	13 December 2021
0478	Doctor Who - The Collection - Season 14 (Limited)	4 May 2020
0479	Doctor Who - The Collection - Season 2 (Limited)	TBC 2022
0480	Doctor Who - The Collection - Season 26 (Limited)	20 January 2020
0481	Doctor Who - The Faceless Ones				16 March 2020
0482	Doctor Who - The Faceless Ones (Steelbook)		16 March 2020

[StuPod]

What are the current rumoured seasons next up besides 20?

[JohnnyF]

Originally Posted by peskdale

Looks like this release was initially green-lit back in 2019 alongside S26, S14 and (the also delayed) S17.

0477	Doctor Who - The Collection - Season 17 (Limited)	13 December 2021
0478	Doctor Who - The Collection - Season 14 (Limited)	4 May 2020
0479	Doctor Who - The Collection - Season 2 (Limited)	TBC 2022
0480	Doctor Who - The Collection - Season 26 (Limited)	20 January 2020
0481	Doctor Who - The Faceless Ones				16 March 2020
0482	Doctor Who - The Faceless Ones (Steelbook)		16 March 2020

Considering they don’t have the plexiglass barriers up between cast members of Behind the Sofa, I would assume they shot those pre pandemic.

[Kieran Seymour]

Originally Posted by peskdale

Looks like this release was initially green-lit back in 2019 alongside S26, S14 and (the also delayed) S17.

Matthew Sweet's confirmed that the William Russell interview took place back in 2018.

[Teddy Westside]

I've never had so much of a feeling of anticipation before viewing B&W Doctor Who. Just the thought of it getting the same treatment as the colour stories I'm most familiar with.

It's a real shame this may indicate the end of the animated reconstruction of missing episodes, especially as there were only 2 needing done for this set.
I never did like telesnaps, but accepted them as all that was available (and being glad when they were still on the new sets as alternatives for completion's sake). I do understand they are a large undertaking but again, it was only 2 episodes this time around...

Zavvi £52.99? Even having ended up with my Red Carpet renewing before I cancelled it, it will still be pricier without p&p unless they reduce it before release.

So it looks like HMV, Amazon or Rarewaves ("Sold Out", or maybe just not live yet?) will get my pennies.

[Teddy Westside]

Originally Posted by TwinCitiesBluFan

No release date yet

Zavvi say "December 2022" for what it's worth.

[TwinCitiesBluFan]

Originally Posted by JohnnyF

Considering they don’t have the plexiglass barriers up between cast members of Behind the Sofa, I would assume they shot those pre pandemic.

The barriers are there, so I assume these were recorded much more recently. I almost missed them in the trailer, but I watched it back a couple of times and realized they're there.

[Marob]

Disappointing that they haven’t got animations for The Crusade. I assume it’s too expensive, but I can’t help wondering if it’s also a little dodgy recreating blacked up actors.

Is there any word on whether they’ve got clearance to use the clip of the Beatles in The Chase?

[TwinCitiesBluFan]

Originally Posted by Marob

Is there any word on whether they’ve got clearance to use the clip of the Beatles in The Chase?

Peter Crocker also (obliquely) confirmed the clip's inclusion on Twitter.

[oddbox83]

Originally Posted by StuPod

I guess the fact that the missing Crusade episodes are presented as telesnaps confirms that's likely to be the procedure for the rest of the non-animated stories.

Can't help but feel like some of the other 60s seasons with more missing stories are gonna feel a bit patchy.

Though most of the Troughton stories now either exist or have an animation to use. Of seasons 4 through 6 (which includes the final 2 Hartnell stories) there are only 5 incomplete stories without animation left.

Hartnell S3 is the only left with very little with 3 complete stories and 1 more complete by animation and only a small handful of orphaned episodes. We don’t even have telesnaps for many of the missing ones is S3. So any recon is going to have to be rather creative, as per some of the fan ones in the past, or just have the audio alone along with the existing episodes for stuff like Daleks’ Masterplan.

[oddbox83]

Originally Posted by Marob

Disappointing that they haven’t got animations for The Crusade. I assume it’s too expensive, but I can’t help wondering if it’s also a little dodgy recreating blacked up actors.

Is there any word on whether they’ve got clearance to use the clip of the Beatles in The Chase?

Different things - the animations are a different range, not commissioned for The Collection sets. Though The Collection range promises to use them where they’ve already been done.

We have two spanner’s in the works anyway now. 1, they said a while back stuff like The Crusade was unlikely to be animated because of the complexity due to a large cast and costumes vs the animation budget and 2, BBC America has pulled out of funding more.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by StuPod

I guess the fact that the missing Crusade episodes are presented as telesnaps confirms that's likely to be the procedure for the rest of the non-animated stories.

Can't help but feel like some of the other 60s seasons with more missing stories are gonna feel a bit patchy.

I'm okay with telesnaps. It's a better way to go imo than their animation. Their animation just isn't very good imo and doesn't belong with these sets. They're fine if you buy them as standalone releases but the animation really doesn't fit these boxes of original episodes. There will be difference of opinion on their animation quality but I have a couple of their Dalek animated reconstructions and while they're cool to own, I can't get into the stories with the animation being so stiff. It's just a distraction. I appreciate what they're doing but I wish they had better animators.

Of course these older sets will be a patchwork since so many episodes are missing, but telesnaps seems like the right choice to me. I actually hope all of the sets include telesnaps instead of animation for the stories that already have animation, for consistency. Including the animated episodes where they are already done id fine too but I hope we get a telesnaps option.

[The Valeyard]

The only Hartnell animation I was hoping for was the Daleks' Masterplan.

[StuPod]

I wonder if the eventual Season 1 boxset will include the abridged Marco Polo reconstruction as a DVD bonus alongside the full 7-episode recon.