The Iceman Cometh (88 Films) - Blu-ray Forum

cooey · 09-09-2022, 08:50 PM

Pre-order from Amazon.co.uk- HERE

cooey · 09-09-2022, 08:51 PM

From 88’s Facebook post

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Our Release of ICEMAN COMETH is nearly ready!
Extras announced soon but we can confirm the versions and artwork.
The release will feature:
Original Hong Kong Version (115 minute) with Cantonese Original Mono, Classic English dub and 5.1 New English Dub

The FULLY UNCUT (127 mins) Extended Taiwanese Version (Mandarin Export Cut) with Mandarin mono, Hybrid Cantonese / Mandarin track and English / Mandarin hybrid track

As per Old Pang Yau -

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Yes, that runtime is not a typo, via @88_Films's Facebook :

"The FULLY UNCUT (127 mins) Extended Taiwanese Version (Mandarin Export Cut) with Mandarin mono, Hybrid Cantonese / Mandarin track and English / Mandarin hybrid track"

(HK version included as well, of course, lol)

navydavey · 09-09-2022, 09:15 PM

Fantastic to see a hybrid English dub on the longer cut too.

A Tortured Duckling · 09-09-2022, 09:43 PM

Looking good. I'll be getting the Vinegar Syndrome release in this month's subscription box but, as with Righting Wrongs, I'll be buying this 88 films release, too. Greatly prefer 88 Films' artwork for this, and the 127 minute cut of the film has me incredibly curious.

Keep 'em coming!

[Show spoiler]

Pochacco · 09-09-2022, 09:54 PM

I've not seen this for a long time but as a teen I thoroughly enjoyed watching this on the big screen in London. I think it was a triple billing of The Iceman Cometh, Once Upon a Time in China and one other, which escapes my memory!

Dragun · 09-09-2022, 10:14 PM

88 Films' Extended Taiwanese Version is 5 min longer than VS's Mandarin Export Cut.

OldPangYau · 09-09-2022, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragun

88 Films' Extended Taiwanese Version is 5 min longer than VS's Mandarin Export Cut.

So, 88 was given that same 122 min cut, and we thought "oh, this but be the Taiwanese cut on the old Taiwanese VHS"... except footage was still missing. So I compiled all of the missing shots using that VHS rip, 88 sent it to FS to see if they could find those shots, and lo and behold they did. So FS scanned them and 88 cleaned them up, and they're dropped seamlessly into the main restoration.

Mushi Minion · 09-09-2022, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OldPangYau

So, 88 was given that same 122 min cut, and we thought "oh, this but be the Taiwanese cut on the old Taiwanese VHS"... except footage was still missing. So I compiled all of the missing shots using that VHS rip, 88 sent it to FS to see if they could find those shots, and lo and behold they did. So FS scanned them and 88 cleaned them up, and they're dropped seamlessly into the main restoration.

I was literally coming here to ask about this, lol.

navydavey · 09-09-2022, 10:35 PM

Damn that's genuinely incredible, it's crazy how FS missed them in the first place but amazing that you managed to sort it and they got the new shots scanned and sent over. After years of inactivity over here, FS must be happy with all the interest from the UK via Eureka and 88 Films (and the US now).

Pochacco · 09-09-2022, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OldPangYau

So, 88 was given that same 122 min cut, and we thought "oh, this but be the Taiwanese cut on the old Taiwanese VHS"... except footage was still missing. So I compiled all of the missing shots using that VHS rip, 88 sent it to FS to see if they could find those shots, and lo and behold they did. So FS scanned them and 88 cleaned them up, and they're dropped seamlessly into the main restoration.

You know what I'd love to see? A Crowdfunded BR produced of how you guys collaborate for many of these titles and pull it out of the bag every - single - time! All of this stuff fascinates me, helping to enrich the experience of the release and it would a damn shame to lose such behind the scenes details that us consumers never see and are only fortunate to read on such forums like this

A Tortured Duckling · 09-09-2022, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by OldPangYau

So, 88 was given that same 122 min cut, and we thought "oh, this but be the Taiwanese cut on the old Taiwanese VHS"... except footage was still missing. So I compiled all of the missing shots using that VHS rip, 88 sent it to FS to see if they could find those shots, and lo and behold they did. So FS scanned them and 88 cleaned them up, and they're dropped seamlessly into the main restoration.

Thank you. We'd been discussing the difference in runtime and wondering what it could be. Now we know. Looking forward to owning this and watching it, as with so many other HK films, for the first time.

Sleazeaddict · 09-10-2022, 12:31 AM

Will skip VS and buy 88 this time, should have done this for Righteous Wrongs.

The Mole · 09-10-2022, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by OldPangYau

So, 88 was given that same 122 min cut, and we thought "oh, this but be the Taiwanese cut on the old Taiwanese VHS"... except footage was still missing. So I compiled all of the missing shots using that VHS rip, 88 sent it to FS to see if they could find those shots, and lo and behold they did. So FS scanned them and 88 cleaned them up, and they're dropped seamlessly into the main restoration.

Great! Please acquire the rights to BLACK MASK and do the same for that film!

Markgway · 09-10-2022, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pochacco

You know what I'd love to see? A Crowdfunded BR produced of how you guys collaborate for many of these titles and pull it out of the bag every - single - time! All of this stuff fascinates me, helping to enrich the experience of the release and it would a damn shame to lose such behind the scenes details that us consumers never see and are only fortunate to read on such forums like this

I'd only participate if I get to do it nude.

The Mole · 09-10-2022, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Markgway

I'd only participate if I get to do it nude.

Sold. Where can I make my pledge?

slimjean · 09-10-2022, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pochacco

The Iceman Cometh (1989) ORIGINAL TRAILER [HQ] - YouTube

I've not seen this for a long time but as a teen I thoroughly enjoyed watching this on the big screen in London. I think it was a triple billing of The Iceman Cometh, Once Upon a Time in China and one other, which escapes my memory!

I know nothing about this movie, but the trailer looks amazing without one shred of English subtitles. VS should have put this out in 4K.

Labor_Unit001 · 09-10-2022, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OldPangYau

So, 88 was given that same 122 min cut, and we thought "oh, this but be the Taiwanese cut on the old Taiwanese VHS"... except footage was still missing. So I compiled all of the missing shots using that VHS rip, 88 sent it to FS to see if they could find those shots, and lo and behold they did. So FS scanned them and 88 cleaned them up, and they're dropped seamlessly into the main restoration.

Absolutely incredible, you guys are going above and beyond with all these titles.

Markgway · 09-10-2022, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Mole

Sold. Where can I make my pledge?

I'll PM you a link to my OnlyFans page.

OldPangYau · 09-11-2022, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by navydavey

Damn that's genuinely incredible, it's crazy how FS missed them in the first place but amazing that you managed to sort it and they got the new shots scanned and sent over. After years of inactivity over here, FS must be happy with all the interest from the UK via Eureka and 88 Films (and the US now).

I've come to learn that with Fortune Star it can be very "YMMV" as to what footage we can get for what film, how many cuts we can get for each, etc. I'm honestly curious as to what FS was using as a "base" to construct the 122 minute version though.

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Originally Posted by Pochacco

You know what I'd love to see? A Crowdfunded BR produced of how you guys collaborate for many of these titles and pull it out of the bag every - single - time! All of this stuff fascinates me, helping to enrich the experience of the release and it would a damn shame to lose such behind the scenes details that us consumers never see and are only fortunate to read on such forums like this

I wish we actually looked that organized on camera, but it's really a bunch of people spread over parts of the US, UK, and of course Hong Kong... a lot of emails and WeTransfers/DropBoxes from "home offices", lol.

The Mole · 09-11-2022, 09:12 AM

But it shows that FS are 1. willing to look for these materials and hand them out (which is really great to begin with) and 2. a proof that the archives of HK studios hold much more materials in much better quality than we were told in the past (which is a great relief because many of these extended and alternate cuts were considered lost forever or only still existing in the form of old VHS tapes, laserdiscs and crappy DVDs).

Maybe if 88 Films were willing to re-release THE PROTECTOR, FS might even be able to find the original materials for the Jackie-Chan-version.

09-09-2022, 08:50 PM	#1
cooey Expert Member Member since:Jan 2011 Location:UK 4K collection:161 Blu-ray collection:1902 iTunes collection:1073 Trading Score:32	The Iceman Cometh (88 Films) Pre-order from Amazon.co.uk- HERE Last edited by BigNickUK; 09-09-2022 at 09:49 PM.

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09-09-2022, 09:15 PM	#3
navydavey Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2013 Location:Essex, UK	Fantastic to see a hybrid English dub on the longer cut too.

09-09-2022, 09:43 PM	#4
A Tortured Duckling Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 4K collection:218 Blu-ray collection:2448 DVD collection:16 Trading Score:51	Looking good. I'll be getting the Vinegar Syndrome release in this month's subscription box but, as with Righting Wrongs, I'll be buying this 88 films release, too. Greatly prefer 88 Films' artwork for this, and the 127 minute cut of the film has me incredibly curious. Keep 'em coming! [Show spoiler]

09-09-2022, 10:14 PM	#6
Dragun Power Member Member since:May 2010 4K collection:76 Blu-ray collection:770	88 Films' Extended Taiwanese Version is 5 min longer than VS's Mandarin Export Cut.

09-09-2022, 10:35 PM	#9
navydavey Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2013 Location:Essex, UK	Damn that's genuinely incredible, it's crazy how FS missed them in the first place but amazing that you managed to sort it and they got the new shots scanned and sent over. After years of inactivity over here, FS must be happy with all the interest from the UK via Eureka and 88 Films (and the US now).

09-10-2022, 12:31 AM	#12
Sleazeaddict Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2014 Trading Score:1	Will skip VS and buy 88 this time, should have done this for Righteous Wrongs.

09-11-2022, 09:12 AM	#20
The Mole Special Member Member since:May 2014	But it shows that FS are 1. willing to look for these materials and hand them out (which is really great to begin with) and 2. a proof that the archives of HK studios hold much more materials in much better quality than we were told in the past (which is a great relief because many of these extended and alternate cuts were considered lost forever or only still existing in the form of old VHS tapes, laserdiscs and crappy DVDs). Maybe if 88 Films were willing to re-release THE PROTECTOR, FS might even be able to find the original materials for the Jackie-Chan-version.

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