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Old 01-30-2020, 08:48 PM   #1
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"An update of the object-based DTS:X format, DTS:X Pro makes it possible to create a home-theater setup with up to 32 uniquely-rendered channels, up from 12."

"DTS:X Pro is being made available to owners of Trinnov’s Altitude32 and Altitude16 processors as a free software update. The upgrade requires a simple online download that takes about 15 minutes."

https://www.soundandvision.com/conte...-speaker-setup
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I found this interesting because it seems to be the only processor that can actual render each channel discretely instead of matrixing the sounds for the channels outside the 7.1.4 standard configuration.

The price is definitely way up there but you get what you pay for. Trinnov provides support for years later and processing power is probably the best available at that price range.
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An IMAX theater doesn't have that many speakers, so where in the heck is a person going to put 32 speakers in their home. You have to use common sense, and don't be hoodwinked into buying every new technology.
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I’m not saying I want 28 speaker, but once I have the space I would like to upgrade to something like a 9.1.6 or a 9.1.8 configuration, and so far these (2 of Trinnov’s processors) are the only ones that can actually render all those channels discretely for DTS-X. Hopefully it will trickle down to cheaper receivers/processors in the future, but it’s nice to see the technology is already available for the consumer.
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An IMAX theater doesn't have that many speakers, so where in the heck is a person going to put 32 speakers in their home. You have to use common sense, and don't be hoodwinked into buying every new technology.
I have 7.2.4 and am gonna get this Trinnov and go 9.4.9.
[Show spoiler]Just kidding. Maybe if I win the lotto I'll think on it.


I believe JBL has a processor like this in the Synthesis line.
Myself, I'd like 7.2.6 at some point, but it won't happen for a bit.
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I have 7.2.4 and am gonna get this Trinnov and go 9.4.9.
[Show spoiler]Just kidding. Maybe if I win the lotto I'll think on it.


I believe JBL has a processor like this in the Synthesis line.
Myself, I'd like 7.2.6 at some point, but it won't happen for a bit.
The JBL looks to be made by Trinnov in partnership. Enjoy your 9.4.9!!!
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The JBL looks to be made by Trinnov in partnership. Enjoy your 9.4.9!!!
lol

I have 5.2.2 and will go 5.2.4 in late summer when the new Yamaha AVR's are out.
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If all it's doing is a revised Neural X-ing and not from a sourced fixed 7.1.4 master, it seems a bit counter intuitive
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If all it's doing is a revised Neural X-ing and not from a sourced fixed 7.1.4 master, it seems a bit counter intuitive
I’m not sure the problem is that DTS-X mixes are ‘fixed’ to 7.1.4. I think the problem was that all receivers/processors that were DTS-X capable only received algorithms that could only render up 11 channels for it. DTS-X Pro on those two Trinnov receivers are said to render beyond that with all discrete channels. Some other receivers are to receive DTS-X Pro but my understanding is that they will matrix the channels beyond DTS-X instead of actually being able to render them discretely due to processing limitations.

Unless Trinnov was lying, that is currently the case. But hopefully cheaper processors in the future will be able to get that better version of DTS-X Pro.

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After doing a bit of research on AVSForums, it seems it’s entirely dependent on how the creators mix their DTS-X tracks on a case by case basis. If they use objects, then the sound is perfectly scalable beyond 7.1.4 channels, but, there’s the ability to have mixes that are fixed to 7.1.4 and don’t use any objects. And there’s the ability to have a combination of those. So, in that regard it’s different from Dolby Atmos because everything in the height layer is an object, and the only way to fix an object to a specific channel is to use a ‘snap-to’ flag, but the creators have to turn it on as it’s not on by default, and because of that it would be specifically creators’ intent.

With DTS-X I guess they can be lazy and only use the 7.1.4 configuration without using any objects, so it just comes down to how much the mixers want to use objects in their mixes. Apparently DTS-X can matrix sounds if the track is fixed to 7.1.4 with no objects, but I’m not sure how it would behave if it has a combination of both.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/86-ul...l#post59114894

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