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Old 02-10-2020, 08:57 PM   #761
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I've been looking at the same Sony players you've mentioned. I'm curious, did you go with the 1700 Smart/Region Free model for $149 or the 3700 Wi-Fi, Smart/Region Free for $159?
I went with the 3700. For just $10, it seemed worth it for the wi-fi, plus the 3700 is the newer model. Gotta love Amazon. I ordered it yesterday at around 1PM and it was on my doorstep at 8AM this morning.
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Old 02-10-2020, 09:11 PM   #762
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I went with the 3700. For just $10, it seemed worth it for the wi-fi, plus the 3700 is the newer model. Gotta love Amazon. I ordered it yesterday at around 1PM and it was on my doorstep at 8AM this morning.
Thank you! I hope you enjoy! Pretty sure I'll be going with the same.
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Old 02-10-2020, 09:18 PM   #763
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220 Electronics vs Bombay Electronics

which one do a better "hack" to region free?
which one gives better customer support?
overall which one you recommend to buy region free players?
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Old 02-11-2020, 01:24 AM   #764
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Mailed my Sammy K8500 to 220 Electronics. They made it Region Free and mailed it back. That was in 2018 and it's still going strong.
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Old 02-11-2020, 09:13 PM   #765
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220 Electronics vs Bombay Electronics

which one do a better "hack" to region free?
which one gives better customer support?
overall which one you recommend to buy region free players?
I have bought from 220 Electronics twice. My second Sony 3D BR player has been going strong for five years. Just checked out the BR version (2D) of "Once Upon a Time in America" and it looks almost as spectacular as the 4K disc does on my wonderful gifted-to-me Samsung player (the one with the worst remote in history! LOL)
I will be purchasing my next modded player from 220 Electronics as well.
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Old 02-11-2020, 09:58 PM   #766
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220 Electronics vs Bombay Electronics

which one do a better "hack" to region free?
which one gives better customer support?
overall which one you recommend to buy region free players?
I've ordered 2 different region-free Blu-ray players from 220. Inexpensive, reliable, and both arrived very quickly. They are very simple to hook up and use. I haven't needed to contact them for anything. 1st player was purchased September of 2018, and the 2nd was purchased December of 2018. Both are used at least every other day.

I haven't used Bombay so I can't give you an opinion on them.
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Old 02-12-2020, 07:12 PM   #767
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I've ordered 2 different region-free Blu-ray players from 220. Inexpensive, reliable, and both arrived very quickly. They are very simple to hook up and use. I haven't needed to contact them for anything. 1st player was purchased September of 2018, and the 2nd was purchased December of 2018. Both are used at least every other day.

I haven't used Bombay so I can't give you an opinion on them.
Inexpensive? 220 add almost $100 on each player to make it region free. That sounds expensive to me, but well that's the price.

By example:
With the $150 that 220 charge for a Sony 3700, you can buy a Panasonic - DP-UB420
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/panason...IDU8I0ZqnsgGvk
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Old 02-12-2020, 07:22 PM   #768
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spatafore for the work being done and the skills required that is good. If you are brave enough to do the job check out rattlebyte
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Old 02-12-2020, 08:03 PM   #769
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Inexpensive? 220 add almost $100 on each player to make it region free. That sounds expensive to me, but well that's the price.

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With the $150 that 220 charge for a Sony 3700, you can buy a Panasonic - DP-UB420
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/panason...IDU8I0ZqnsgGvk
Why are you trying to compare a region free player to a Region A only player.

Despite the fact that the Panasonic might be able to use the Top Menu trick to play certain Region B discs, it's still not all discs so it's not really a comparison.

You seem obsessed with the cost to make the item region free as somehow being excessive. How much do you think the markup should be to buy the region free circuit boards, solder it to the player and test it, provide the warranty fro the region free mod, and make at least a bit of profit for the work?
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Old 02-12-2020, 08:23 PM   #770
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hariseldon which is why in the comment just before yours I pointed people towards rattlebyte. Would you like to borrow my glasses?
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Old 02-12-2020, 08:48 PM   #771
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Inexpensive? 220 add almost $100 on each player to make it region free. That sounds expensive to me, but well that's the price.

By example:
With the $150 that 220 charge for a Sony 3700, you can buy a Panasonic - DP-UB420
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/panason...IDU8I0ZqnsgGvk
IDK where you are getting this add $100 when you can get one on eBay from 220's store for just $99 without paying to add regions. My player in my signature was just $99 which is cheaper than ordering direct from 220 or buying from Amazon or any of the other places.
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Old 02-12-2020, 09:28 PM   #772
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Inexpensive? 220 add almost $100 on each player to make it region free. That sounds expensive to me, but well that's the price.

By example:
With the $150 that 220 charge for a Sony 3700, you can buy a Panasonic - DP-UB420
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/panason...IDU8I0ZqnsgGvk
My 2 region-free players were $99 and $129 from 220 Electronics. The more expensive of the 2 has a wireless modem.

These were ordered via ebay. I just checked and the prices haven't changed.
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Old 02-13-2020, 05:04 PM   #773
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hariseldon which is why in the comment just before yours I pointed people towards rattlebyte. Would you like to borrow my glasses?
I have linked Rattlebyte to him before as well. I'm aware of how much the circuit board costs without including labor.

I just want to know what spatafore thinks would be a reasonable price for the conversion since he seems to think $90-100 for a new unit ($50 for a refurb) is excessive over the cost of the same machine unconverted from Best Buy or Amazon. This seems to be a huge sticking point for him since it's been brought up multiple times over the last 6 months
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Old 02-13-2020, 06:21 PM   #774
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High 5 hariseldon the more our colleague quibbles about the cost of the m-r the longer they miss out on the out of region titles that they want. Here in England even if you provide your own player, the return delivery and the region mod was at least $100 equivalent allowing for sales tax differences. Here in uk sales tax is included with the shelf price at 20% http://www.mrmdvd.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=221
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I have linked Rattlebyte to him before as well. I'm aware of how much the circuit board costs without including labor.

I just want to know what spatafore thinks would be a reasonable price for the conversion since he seems to think $90-100 for a new unit ($50 for a refurb) is excessive over the cost of the same machine unconverted from Best Buy or Amazon. This seems to be a huge sticking point for him since it's been brought up multiple times over the last 6 months
Are you saying I can buy a refurb region free player for $50?
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Lum ask the seller in what way the refurbished player differs from a **standard** player. I very much doubt it will be m-r, but nobody died of asking
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Are you saying I can buy a refurb region free player for $50?
The point being made was if a player was $100, then a refurb region free player would be $150 and a new one about $200
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Are you saying I can buy a refurb region free player for $50?
No. The std Region A locked Sony 1700 can be bought new for $50 at Best Buy vs $100 at 220/Bombay

spatafore has for months been objecting that the Sony 1700 region free modded player costs $100 refurb/$140 new through Ebay storefronts of 220Electronics or Bombay. Even that isn't quite true since you can buy a 'New' Region Free 1700 at Bombay directly for $126 with their 10% 1st time customer discount. Despite pointing out buying a similar Module/Circuit Board directly costs around $60 without installation that still hasn't helped.

His latest argument got even better trying to argue that their region modded player was a ripoff cost since it cost same/more than a off the shelf Panasonic.

A different question has come up over the years of what's the difference in 220/Bombay's listing of refurb vs new. Since they have to open the unit to install the Module aren't all the units technically refurbs and if it's possible all the unit's they sell are actually the same. I've tried to find out without success a way to get to the service menu to check LASER USE hours like many CD, DVD, and Laserdisc players used to allow. If the units have never been sold/return or used as a demo, then the new/refurb designation is at least questionable playing on fears of buying used items. Many if not most of the people buying the refurb units are pretty convinced they are really 1st Sale items

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Does anyone here know if region free players like this one here:

https://www.220-electronics.com/sony...ti-region.html

are based off of the USA units or international ones? Specifically wondering if this comes with a standard USA wall adapter or if I'll need an international adapter/converter?

Also do these include the remote? I see no pictures or mention of them anywhere.

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Old 02-16-2020, 01:33 AM   #780
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Since people have started buying 4K UHD Blu-rays, it's not necessary to buy or modify a current Blu-ray player to be region free because, 4K UHD discs are already region free.
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