|
|
![]() |
||||||||||||||||||||
|
Best Blu-ray Movie Deals
|
Best Blu-ray Movie Deals, See All the Deals » |
Top deals |
New deals
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() $41.99 20 hrs ago
| ![]() $121.79 6 hrs ago
| ![]() $49.96 19 hrs ago
| ![]() $16.99 | ![]() $49.99 20 hrs ago
| ![]() $60.99 20 hrs ago
| ![]() $24.99 | ![]() $29.99 | ![]() $14.99 | ![]() $18.39 | ![]() $24.96 | ![]() $29.99 19 hrs ago
|
![]() |
#1 | ||
Blu-ray Champion
|
![]()
Filmmaker mode striking a blow against motion smoothing
Quote:
Last edited by Canada; 08-28-2019 at 07:47 AM. Reason: adding a youtube video |
||
![]() |
Thanks given by: | frogmort (08-29-2019), HDTV1080P (08-28-2019), Jamieeee (08-28-2019), jibucha (08-28-2019), Robert Zohn (08-29-2019) |
![]() |
#2 |
Blu-ray Ninja
|
![]()
Thanks for the information. Filmmaker mode would offer native 24fps on some high-end DLP projectors, and on all flat panel screens with Filmmaker mode 24fps would be flashed at multiplies of 24Hz, like 120Hz, or 240Hz, etc (and without frame interpolation motion smoothing). I wish Filmmaker mode would have existed back in 2006. It would have saved me several thousands of hours of research over the last decade contacting manufactories to see which menu settings might turn off motion smoothing and offer multiplies of 24fps Cinematic mode when I created the following thread back in Jan of 2007. Things became very complicated when I was looking for displays that offered multiplies of 48fps for Blu-ray 3D along with multiplies of 24fps for 2D.
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=5155 In the ideal world all 16K displays including 16K projectors and 16K flat panels should be mandated by the consumer electronics industry to have some type of 3D technology (This should have happen with 8K displays the 3D mandate, but the industry missed it). When 16K displays come out in a decade or so they all should be required to have some type of 3D technology so consumers can use Blu-rayt 3D or broadcast 3D. 3D now is only a niche market because the technology is only found on some mid to higher-end projectors. Projectors also have the best 3D quality and one of the reasons why 3D died for flat panel screens was because of the poor 3D quality when compared to a reference DLP 3D projector. Last edited by HDTV1080P; 08-28-2019 at 03:50 PM. |
![]() |
![]() |
#3 |
Blu-ray Ninja
|
![]()
quote
"The mode will be easily accessible two primary ways: by pressing a single button on the remote, or if the proper metadata is in the bitstream, the TVs may automatically switch the display without you even needing to press anything at all." That would be awesome modes. Currently my 2008 Pioneer Elite Signature series plasma which is 11 years old displays 1080P 24fps material at 72fps using 2D triple flash technology with nice organic motion. |
![]() |
![]() |
#4 |
Special Member
![]() Mar 2010
Portishead ♫
|
![]()
They should have come up with that mode fifteen years ago, for the masses.
That's cool, tomorrow's TVs are going to be more consumer friendly, Artificial Intelligence. And why press a remote button when you can talk directly to your display by simply saying "Film". By the time you locate your remote under the couch or in the refregirator (you misplaced it there last time when getting the strawberry jam for your ice cream), and letting it cool down or warming up in the microwave oven, by the time you press that unfrozen button with the batteries calmed down, the film would be over. Filmmaker mode...talk to your display and tell her to engage it...say "Film". Tomorrow, from Panasonic TVs (OLED best), where they aren't available in the United States of America. ![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#5 | |
Blu-ray Champion
|
![]() Quote:
|
|
![]() |
Thanks given by: | HDTV1080P (08-30-2019) |
![]() |
#6 | |
Special Member
![]() Mar 2010
Portishead ♫
|
![]() Quote:
• https://www.atlasavu.ca/shop/tv-vide...led-tc65fz950/ Ask for Tom, say you talk to Bob...$3,000 (Canadian loonies). The 5-year warranty is an extra $480 Cdn. According to Tom Panasonic OLED TVs have much better quality picture than LG OLED, and Sony OLED. Customers have compared them side-to-side and there's no question. Here on the Island (Victoria) that's it. Next best place for Panasonic OLED TVs is on the mainland, Vancouver...three stores. And of course there's LG OLED (but the C9 for example...$3,300...no Filmmaker Mode). Same for Panasonic and Sony OLED. Perhaps next year models (some)...2020. * That link above, not very important anyway, no Dolby Vision (but it has Dynamic Scene Optimiser). ...HCX Hollywood video processor. Last edited by LordoftheRings; 08-28-2019 at 11:30 PM. |
|
![]() |
Thanks given by: | Canada (08-29-2019) |
![]() |
#7 |
Blu-ray Champion
|
![]()
I would like to buy a 4K TV but I am a little cash strapped at the moment. Plus no Dolby Vision on a TV is a deal breaker for me. Although if I won enough money to get projector and projector screen, I would say goodbye to Dolby Vision yesterday.
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#9 |
Active Member
|
![]()
We shall see just how successfully these manufacturers and content providers implement this promising initiative. This is nothing new. The professional display calibration community has been enabling this option for discriminating cinephiles at home for decades. As the presumptive "godfather" of video display accuracy, Joe Kane, has been saying all along to anyone who would listen, "It's all about the art!"
It is also important to remind the video industry that a significant challenge remains when considering what is really necessary in delivering an authentic viewing experience of cinematic art in the home. Any video installation must involve a system approach. The video display is only one component in an array of essential parts that compose the whole of how a viewer perceives and experiences the program being reproduced. Motion picture experts agree that the soundtrack provides at least 50% of the emotion and impact of a movie or major television production. Attention to detail in telling a dramatic story includes sound, picture, and usually actors' performances. The environment (room conditions) in which the program is presented also has a profound effect on how the audience experiences the presentation of a program. Room acoustics, placement of equipment relative to the seating location, lighting conditions, and colors in the surroundings, are all important to how the human perceives the presentation. A skilled designer will attend to all of these details when implementing a home entertainment system. Best regards and beautiful pictures, Alan Brown, President CinemaQuest, Inc. SMPTE, PVA, THX, ISF, Lion AV Consultants "Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging" |
![]() |
Thanks given by: | LordoftheRings (08-30-2019), rubystone356 (11-18-2019) |
![]() |
#10 |
Blu-ray Baron
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#11 | |
Active Member
|
![]() Quote:
Manufacturers study their markets. The majority of TVs sold are not purchased by videophiles or home theater hobbyists. Picture modes out of the box are featured that allow acceptable viewing in bright rooms such as the average living room or Costco/Walmart/Target/Sam's Club/Best Buy retail show floor. In comparison, cinephiles, videophiles, and home entertainment forum members are considered a niche market. Thankfully, options are usually provided these days that allow for a "cinema" mode and/or advanced calibration controls to achieve a more accurate picture according to motion imaging industry standards and best practices. Best regards and beautiful pictures, Alan Brown, President CinemaQuest, Inc. SMPTE, PVA, THX, ISF, Lion AV Consultants "Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging" |
|
![]() |
Thanks given by: | cgpublic (11-17-2019), LordoftheRings (08-30-2019) |
![]() |
#12 |
Power Member
Oct 2006
|
![]()
how long until we hear more about this feature?
|
![]() |
![]() |
#13 |
Special Member
![]() Mar 2010
Portishead ♫
|
![]()
Vizio TVs, next year in 2020 when they release some models with that feature.
LG TVs, most likely next year as well. Panasonic OLED TVs, next year ... 2020. • https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1567695600 Next year is also when we'll see transparent OLED from Panasonic. And of course more 8K TVs ... _____ * https://www.trustedreviews.com/news/...h-2020-3935911 Last edited by LordoftheRings; 09-21-2019 at 09:27 PM. |
![]() |
Thanks given by: | Robert Zohn (09-21-2019) |
![]() |
#14 | |
Power Member
Oct 2006
|
![]() Quote:
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
#15 |
Special Member
![]() Mar 2010
Portishead ♫
|
![]()
There's no new news ... on that filmmaker mode front.
And Panasonic OLED TVs are not available in the United States of America. So in 2020 people from the US can look @ Vizio. * LG is more into 8K and rolling OLED. Filmmaker Mode we'll know more about when Vizio implement it on some models next year...good luck. Room's lights has to be taken into consideration, easier said than done. |
![]() |
![]() |
#16 |
Active Member
|
![]()
Given the near instant response times of current OLED TVs, they are able to show motion almost exactly as it is at the source. The problem is that media filmed on lower frame rates such as 24p have inherent stutter that was masked by motion blur on older TVs. Now with OLEDs we can se that stuttering in panning movements for example. I gather this is because 24 fps is low enough that we can tell that it is a series of still images and the illusion of continuous motion falls apart. I find it hard to believe that the likes of Christopher Nolan intends his films to be a stuttering mess.
Give me smooth motion any day over 24p. The latest TVs are capable of 120fps. Films would be buttery smooth if they were filmed in that. Though I appreciate the added cost that would bring to CGI fests like marvel movies. Can someone please tell me what is so "cinematic" about stuttering? |
![]() |
![]() |
#17 | |
Blu-ray Champion
|
![]() Quote:
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
#18 |
Active Member
|
![]()
Life doesn't happen in frames so there's nothing natural about 24fps. It may be more convenient for people to shoot in such a low frame rate but they're definitely not doing it because it looks better. The argument against smooth motion settings (which is a totally valid argument) isn't necessarily an endorsement of 24fps.
|
![]() |
![]() |
#19 | |
Blu-ray Champion
|
![]() Quote:
|
|
![]() |
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
Tags |
filmmakermode, motion smoothing, post processing |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|