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Old 09-21-2022, 03:34 PM   #8341
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The importance of extras goes beyond just one's personal preference. It's important to include as much as we possibly can from an archival point of view, also, and we take that philosophy with every disc we make. If there are extras, we will include them if possible.

As for the concerns about video bitrate regarding the main feature, the amount we are currently giving it is still in the ballpark of what we would normally give, so there's no need to worry about possibly compromising video quality. Again, the numbers only mean so much at the end of the day anyways.
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Old 09-21-2022, 03:43 PM   #8342
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I watch all extras on the first spin, and revisit ones I enjoyed. Why not have the most you can get out of a release, as long as nothing important is sacrificed. I love buying something knowing that I will never need to buy a better version (until someone comes up with a better version).

I can understand complaining when something is missing but I don't get complaining over more being included. Just because you don't need extras, dubs, a slipcover, or little postcards doesn't mean others don't want them.
Though I can understand complaining when you're forced to buy the edition with a artbook, figures, stuff that actually drives up the price, just to get all of the disc content. At least a fully packed disc takes up the same amount of space as a barebones disc.
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Old 09-21-2022, 04:00 PM   #8343
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Though I can understand complaining when you're forced to buy the edition with a artbook, figures, stuff that actually drives up the price, just to get all of the disc content.
Aka Aniplex lol
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Old 09-21-2022, 04:20 PM   #8344
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Do we know if they were BD50s or BD25s?
I do.

Disc 1: Ep. 1-4 + science lessons 1-4 & short extras 37.8GB
Disc 2: Ep. 5-6 + science lessons 5-8 & short extras 23.1GB
Disc 3: Ep. 6 original version (fullscreen) + extras 41.1GB
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Old 09-21-2022, 08:32 PM   #8345
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I love special features...too bad many movies and shows I would love to see such things only get bare bone releases....if they get released at all.
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Old 09-21-2022, 11:15 PM   #8346
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I think the spirit of my original question has gone off on a different path than intended.

I'm just wondering if there's anything holding Disco back from spreading this, or any release, across two discs when they've been aiming for one disc this whole time? I get that the logistics of a price increase for the consumer and the extra investment of time/money into changing everything from the producers standpoint would have to be made (finding/ordering more physical discs to print the data on, re-designing the intended single-disc packaging to two, etc). But is re-encoding for smaller file sizes that much easier/not as important as just using more discs? Or is there maybe something else not mentioned that would prevent them from changing the release structure of one disc into two (licensing agreements, or some else professional not known to the common collector)?
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Old 09-22-2022, 12:10 AM   #8347
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I'm just wondering if there's anything holding Disco back from spreading this, or any release, across two discs when they've been aiming for one disc this whole time? I get that the logistics of a price increase for the consumer and the extra investment of time/money into changing everything from the producers standpoint would have to be made (finding/ordering more physical discs to print the data on, re-designing the intended single-disc packaging to two, etc). But is re-encoding for smaller file sizes that much easier/not as important as just using more discs? Or is there maybe something else not mentioned that would prevent them from changing the release structure of one disc into two (licensing agreements, or some else professional not known to the common collector)?
2 discs = higher production costs = higher price = less sales

1 disc = we suffer more = more people see/buy Gunbuster

No brainer
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Old 09-22-2022, 12:53 AM   #8348
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It would go against the decision to abandon DVD but couldn't some of the extras be moved to a DVD. Unless all the extras are in HD and have lossless audio wouldn't DVD get the job done? Plus the cost to make a DVD being less expensive.

1 BD-50 for main content & essential extras that would benefit most from Blu-ray presentation

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Old 09-22-2022, 12:57 AM   #8349
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It would go against the decision to abandon DVD but couldn't some of the extras be moved to a DVD. Unless all the extras are in HD and have lossless audio wouldn't DVD get the job done? Plus the cost to make a DVD being less expensive.

1 BD-50 for main content & essential extras that would benefit most from Blu-ray presentation

1 DVD-9 for standard definition extras
A good number of releases have extras that benefit from better encoding that wouldn't be possible on a DVD (especially ones that have more colors where MPEG2 can sort of glitch out.) To say nothing of the significantly higher resolution subtitles that SD on Blu-ray can have.

Not to mention that actually would complicate things, as the way to build the discs, check the discs, etc. are entirely different.
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Old 09-22-2022, 12:58 AM   #8350
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It would go against the decision to abandon DVD but couldn't some of the extras be moved to a DVD. Unless all the extras are in HD and have lossless audio wouldn't DVD get the job done? Plus the cost to make a DVD being less expensive.

1 BD-50 for main content & essential extras that would benefit most from Blu-ray presentation

1 DVD-9 for standard definition extras
But why? You can put SD extras on a (non UHD) BD. I donít know the specifics, but I canít imagine (in a hypothetical world where 2 discs are needed), a BD50 and a BD25 would be more than a few cents more expensive than a BD50 and a DVD9, plus you can get all your discs from the same manufacturer. It just seems like added complexity for no real benefit.
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Old 09-22-2022, 01:38 AM   #8351
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They did it

https://twitter.com/worldofcrap/stat...47495708696576
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Finally seeing the assembled disc, I think I can say Gunbuster might be one of the most compelling packages we've ever put together. And I gotta admit, that's saying something.
https://twitter.com/RaRaRazberri/sta...52360438648832
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On a scale of one to the Giant Robo bluray set, how'd you rate it?
https://twitter.com/worldofcrap/stat...54030216220672
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I'd say it ties Giant Robo, maybe bests it in some ways. A-ko is still king, but that's partly down to what a coup it was to find the 35mm.
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You know it's a good day when @worldofcrap himself compliments the quality of the Gunbuster disc you just finished authoring after days of stressing about it and chipping at it
(Keep in mind that this is before @MarcFBR tears it apart limb from limb as is his specialty)

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Old 09-22-2022, 03:26 AM   #8352
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Yeah I can count on my hands the times I've really watched extras (like the Bubblegum music stuff) but I get that extras and dubbing this are part of the business model and help sales. I'd rather have this release than not, and it doing well is important for Discotek and getting more things.



I'm one of the 10 people that bought it lol. It was the one with the greenish cover art right? Watched it and kept it until the day I had the BD in hand, then gave it away to a friend.
I agree. Out of the 2500+ movies/TV shows/anime I've bought over the years I've watched the extras on fewer than 5, but if extras are what bring sales up to acceptable numbers then I won't complain.
I also bought the green cover Lupin dvd set. Can't remember if I bought the bluray yet
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Old 09-22-2022, 04:20 AM   #8353
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https://twitter.com/hideo_kojima_en/...lfp1PauxOSiWDA

Imagine working on the US release of what’s frankly kind of just an old forgotten OVA (no offense to those who love it), only for Hideo Kojima of all people to pick up your release. Must be pretty cool.

Someone should probably tell him about the SteelBook, though
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Old 09-22-2022, 05:55 AM   #8354
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https://twitter.com/worldofcrap/stat...13202219757568

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Old 09-22-2022, 08:03 AM   #8355
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Imagine working on the US release of whatís frankly kind of just an old forgotten OVA (no offense to those who love it), only for Hideo Kojima of all people to pick up your release. Must be pretty cool.
As a long-time Metal Gear fan, yes, I can definitely say it's pretty damn cool.
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Speaking of Cyber City, is there a good chance the new scan will get a standard release eventually? I want it but I really dislike steelbooks.
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Speaking of Cyber City, is there a good chance the new scan will get a standard release eventually? I want it but I really dislike steelbooks.
I hope so. I don't need or want steelbooks in my collection and 80's/90's cel-based Anime is a key part of my collection, that I try to acquire.
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Old 09-22-2022, 02:30 PM   #8358
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I doubt there will be another release for Cyber City until they get through the rest of the upscale discs and that’s a big if. You’re better off picking up both releases, swapping discs, and selling the Frankenstein’d SteelBook on Mercari.
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AL UK is hinting at a release of the new remaster, but in what form it is remains to be seen. Hopefully a standard edition so that I can put the disc in the CE.
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I doubt there will be another release for Cyber City until they get through the rest of the upscale discs and thatís a big if. Youíre better off picking up both releases, swapping discs, and selling the Frankensteiníd SteelBook on Mercari.
I could maybe see a remastered standard whenever they eventually run out of stock of the original BD, but certainly not before that.
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