HD DVD/Universal gets slapped by the Spielberg camp again!

[BluCrusader]

Originally Posted by ra1024

What was the result? Did Spielberg not want to try and sway Lucas or did Lucas simply say no?

I think Lucas probably said NO...he doesn't seem too put off on HDDVD yet.

[Spankey]

Love this line! These guys are great!

From what I've read Spielberg could not prevent Close Encounters on Blu even if he was so inclined. Not to say he is displeased with it.

[RUR]

Originally Posted by Spankey

Love this line! These guys are great!

Can you say cognitive dissonance?

[BluOgre]

Originally Posted by ra1024

What was the result? Did Spielberg not want to try and sway Lucas or did Lucas simply say no?

My understanding from my Fox sales rep is they had planned to release StarWars this 4th qtr but had to scrap the plans. If you read between the lines Fox was waiting for something....it's why they temporarely stopped releasing movies on BluRay for 4 months. Because of that it was impossible to release Starwars at the last minute.

I was told it would probably come out 4th qtr next year however things change so it's not written in stone. But the fact my rep said they had planned for it this year made me think it's highly likely next year you'll see it.

[Jamh]

Originally Posted by Terjyn

Being a dual-format supporter and being pro-HD-DVD are not contradictory statements. All it means is that someone else wanted to go Blu-exclusive and he helped stop them.

Actually they are. If you're dual-format you support both equally, pro HD-DVD shows a bias towards one of the two formats, leading to exclusive releases on their format of choice.

[BluCrusader]

Originally Posted by Jamh

Actually they are. If you're dual-format you support both equally, pro HD-DVD shows a bias towards one of the two formats, leading to exclusive releases on their format of choice.

this gets confusing, cuz theoretically speaking, what if you are dual-format but own like 29 BLUray movies and 26 HDDVD movies.....is this a contradiction?

[What'sHD]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

I think the behavior of the HD camp, who started this in the first place has fully justified a complete and total onslaught of nyahs and neeners at every opportunity.

This twice-forced apology should be telling them something if their heads were't so far up Amir's rapidly retreating buttocks

hehehe, damn, thats a funny one

[tron3]

Originally Posted by SpikesBluBlooded

Now now, we can't go and stoop to their level... for one, I don't really want to crawl under any rocks...

HA HA HA. Good one. Neither do we wish to become like them by oozing slime.

[Jamh]

Originally Posted by BluCrusader

this gets confusing, cuz theoretically speaking, what if you are dual-format but own like 29 BLUray movies and 26 HDDVD movies.....is this a contradiction?

My post was directed mainly at Nickerson, not so much general public. Basically, IMO, if you have a preference either way your simply a proponent of that format who happens to own both.

[scragham]

Originally Posted by Jamh

My post was directed mainly at Nickerson, not so much general public. Basically, IMO, if you have a preference either way your simply a proponent of that format who happens to own both.

agreed. if you own both formats, but are cheering for one of them to win... then you're not really neutral by the commonly accepted definition of the word, now are you?

[Knight-Errant]

Originally Posted by BluOgre

My understanding from my Fox sales rep is they had planned to release StarWars this 4th qtr but had to scrap the plans. If you read between the lines Fox was waiting for something....it's why they temporarely stopped releasing movies on BluRay for 4 months. Because of that it was impossible to release Starwars at the last minute.

I was told it would probably come out 4th qtr next year however things change so it's not written in stone. But the fact my rep said they had planned for it this year made me think it's highly likely next year you'll see it.

Now that is interesting. Wonder what they're going to include...PiP perhaps?

[Terjyn]

Originally Posted by Jamh

Actually they are. If you're dual-format you support both equally, pro HD-DVD shows a bias towards one of the two formats, leading to exclusive releases on their format of choice.

Sorry, but you are wrong.

Nobody has said Nickerson is neutral and been correct. What they are saying is, within the context of working at Warner, he was pro-neutral.

In this context, they are not contradictions.

A pro-HDDVD person at, say, Disney, could be a big proponent of them going Neutral. This would make him pro-Neutral, within the context of working at Disney, while being pro-HDDVD overall. The reverse could be true of someone at Universal.

Now the FUD morons are trying to claim he was neutral overall. They are flat out wrong. But what do you expect from FUD?

[WickyWoo]

Nobody has said Nickerson is neutral. What they are saying is, within the context of working at Warner, he was pro-neutral.

Actually they've said numerous times int he press he's neutral

He absolutely was not, and behind the curtain he was 100% HD DVD. While he may not have been able to say that in public, that's the real scoop.

[Terjyn]

Yeah. I amended my post after writing it initially, so the part you quoted isn't quite the same.

The press reports of him being "Pro-neutral" came from a context within Warner, which the press does what they always do with said knowledge. Warped it.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

behind the curtain he was 100% HD DVD. While he may not have been able to say that in public, that's the real scoop.

Correcto-mundo.

Which is why this issue was given particular attention to when the news broke here before any other news outlet picked up on it. But truthfully, I think that in the grand scheme of things, the significance of Alan Bell leaving WB has been and will be of greater importance to Blu-ray enthusiasts than that of Mr. Nickerson leaving WB to pursue other interests.

It is quite amusing that people on other forums who had never even heard of S. Nickerson before….. somehow overnight became experts on his preferences.

Sort of reminds me of some of the PQ critics of the Dracula transfer that suddenly became experts on the transfer process itself…. when I sincerely doubt before that fiasco all started, they knew the diff between a work print, answer print or release print.

[Jamh]

Originally Posted by Terjyn

Sorry, but you are wrong.

Nobody has said Nickerson is neutral and been correct. What they are saying is, within the context of working at Warner, he was pro-neutral.

In this context, they are not contradictions.

A pro-HDDVD person at, say, Disney, could be a big proponent of them going Neutral. This would make him pro-Neutral, within the context of working at Disney, while being pro-HDDVD overall. The reverse could be true of someone at Universal.

Now the FUD morons are trying to claim he was neutral overall. They are flat out wrong. But what do you expect from FUD?

In the context you're referring to they are simply pro HD-DVD, it's just that the studio going Neutral benefits their preference. Anyone who is really pro Neutral wouldn't care what the studios did as they'd have both players already and access to all movies no matter which format they're released on.

[Rob71]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Correcto-mundo.

Which is why this issue was given particular attention to when the news broke here before any other news outlet picked up on it. But truthfully, I think that in the grand scheme of things, the significance of Alan Bell leaving WB has been and will be of greater importance to Blu-ray enthusiasts than that of Mr. Nickerson leaving WB to pursue other interests.

It is quite amusing that people on other forums who had never even heard of S. Nickerson before….. somehow overnight became experts on his preferences.

Sort of reminds me of some of the PQ critics of the Dracula transfer that suddenly became experts on the transfer process itself…. when I sincerely doubt before that fiasco all started, they knew the diff between a work print, answer print or release print.

Dracula? Fiasco? Did I miss something?

[kotton247]

Originally Posted by Rob71

Dracula? Fiasco? Did I miss something?

Um it was Francis Ford Coppola's decision on the transfer that was used for blu-ray. All the critics tried to say that sony screwed the movie's look up, when the director specifically requested that it look like it does on blu.

[POOPonYOU]

who's Alan Bell and was he pro HD DEADVD

[patrick99]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Correcto-mundo.

Which is why this issue was given particular attention to when the news broke here before any other news outlet picked up on it. But truthfully, I think that in the grand scheme of things, the significance of Alan Bell leaving WB has been and will be of greater importance to Blu-ray enthusiasts than that of Mr. Nickerson leaving WB to pursue other interests.

I love it when you say things like that, Penton-Man.