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Old 06-30-2020, 03:36 PM   #21
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So basically if Lockhart is indeed a POS hybrid next-gen system, devs will have to make their game compatible with,

Xbox One / S
Xbox One X
Xbox Lockhart
Xbox Series X

Seems like a hassle for devs, more so for 3rd party devs who will support PS4 & PS5 along with all those Xbox’s.
I suppose this would make it more PC-like, optimizing a game to play in a wider array of similar hardware.

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I'd expect to see very sloppy optimisation on the Series S if indeed real from 3rd parties.
Perhaps MS has some tools to help with the optimization or a process that automatically “dials-down” the effects, similar to the current use of dynamic resolution.
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Old 06-30-2020, 04:04 PM   #22
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Perhaps MS has some tools to help with the optimization or a process that automatically “dials-down” the effects, similar to the current use of dynamic resolution.
I would expect this to be the case. Most devs are already used to making games for PC with a zillion different configurations. I don't see how it would be any more difficult for 4 different Xbox skus.

The biggest obstacle IMO with introducing a Lockhart into your family of consoles is it has the potential to create unwanted confusion amongst consumers. Now one could argue that the X1S and the X1X seem to coexist just fine on store shelves. However there's a difference between introducing a mid-gen upgrade 4 years after the fact and launching two totally different hardware configurations simultaneously at the start of a generation. I'll be happy to be proven wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if the Lockhart gets discontinued 2-3 years after launch.
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Old 06-30-2020, 06:21 PM   #23
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I think the answer we're looking for is Direct X 12 Ultimate the first universal graphics API designed to work across Windows consoles and PCs, MS ace in the hole for optimising games for multiple platforms.


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Old 07-04-2020, 10:15 AM   #24
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I disagree with this quite a bit. Sony don't need to worry because they have a set spec. Digital or Disk.

MS has now got a 2 tier SKU allegedly for next gen AND they want to make people aware of their support for X1 family of consoles for 2 years. That's a terrible balancing act when it comes to marketing and customer perceptions on what is and isn't "Next Gen" imo.

Of course we'll see how this plays out in sales but even if that video as it claims where people don't care about 4K visuals. A side by side comparison of the Lockhart and Series X should still show the benefits of the Series X 4K image supersampled down to 10800 over a native 1080p image. I don't think MS is being smart at all this coming gen but we'll see.
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I disagree with this quite a bit. Sony don't need to worry because they have a set spec. Digital or Disk.

MS has now got a 2 tier SKU allegedly for next gen AND they want to make people aware of their support for X1 family of consoles for 2 years. That's a terrible balancing act when it comes to marketing and customer perceptions on what is and isn't "Next Gen" imo.

Of course we'll see how this plays out in sales but even if that video as it claims where people don't care about 4K visuals. A side by side comparison of the Lockhart and Series X should still show the benefits of the Series X 4K image supersampled down to 10800 over a native 1080p image. I don't think MS is being smart at all this coming gen but we'll see.
That guy is a shill and complete Xbox/PC homer. Almost every video this guy makes that's Sony related has some kind of negative connotation attached to it.
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Old 07-04-2020, 07:25 PM   #27
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I couldn’t even make it through the video, that guy is obnoxious! (I hope I’m not that annoying)

I’m all about having choices so if MS wants to release the Diet Coke of consoles, so be it. I still think the only way it will really work is if they kill off the XO, otherwise (as already stated by the rest of the board) it will just be confusing. Going into the holiday w/ 5 SKUs (XOS, XOSAD, XOX, XSS, XSX) is a bit much.

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Old 07-26-2020, 01:50 PM   #28
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Series S controller? is it cake?

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I guess Series S will be White and Series X retaining a Black colour scheme. It's kinda interesting how that's changed from their One X launch which was a black model and became largely white with the One S and back to black for the One X.
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Why is the pizza box upside-down?
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If only we could take those thumb sticks & put them on the DS5. = perfection.
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Confirmation of Series S via this booklet in the controller box.. Source

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Looks set to be revealed within two weeks at the "xboxingday" even listed by Jeff Grubb.
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Boxing Day is the day after Christmas to most. MS needs to stop trying to steal days with an X in front lest they get boxed in the noggin again by Sony
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Old 08-10-2020, 02:13 PM   #35
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Boxing Day is the day after Christmas to most. MS needs to stop trying to steal days with an X in front lest they get boxed in the noggin again by Sony
I really have no idea why he calls it that.

Unless it's a hint that they are revealing a box at the event. That's the Series S and its literally a box lol.

He's also hinted that it might be released minus a controller. So you literally only buy the Console when you buy a series S. I guess that's one way to get new hardware on the shelf for 199 and not lose too much money.
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I really have no idea why he calls it that.

Unless it's a hint that they are revealing a box at the event. That's the Series S and its literally a box lol.

He's also hinted that it might be released minus a controller. So you literally only buy the Console when you buy a series S. I guess that's one way to get new hardware on the shelf for 199 and not lose too much money.
Especially if Xbox One controllers will still work for it.
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Old 08-10-2020, 02:35 PM   #37
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Especially if Xbox One controllers will still work for it.
Definitely. Series S should be a huge budget console unlike any we've seen before.

I think it could be the cheapest priced new hardware we will have seen but that's to be expected if the rumoured specs are real. It has a smaller tf count than the One X but it should be built on the new AMD hardware as th Series X so should perform better than the One X.

Itll also be a good selling point that you can use your old controllers on the new console since Sony have said DS4s will not work with PS5 games.
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Old 08-10-2020, 03:21 PM   #38
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I could be tempted to trade in my One X against it if performance is increased.
Doesn't have to blow my socks off as I'll only use it for the occasional exclusive
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I could be tempted to trade in my One X against it if performance is increased.
Doesn't have to blow my socks off as I'll only use it for the occasional exclusive
Might be a worthwhile upgrade to be honest. Even if the graphics are on par with the One X you should still benefit from the SSD, although I am assuming that it will include the same SSD as series X as it's not confirmed obviously.

If I'm honest I could be tempted to it myself if it is indeed that cheap and at least on par with One X graphics performance, even if it was a digital only console I'd be ok with it considering I'd be getting most of my xbox games via Gamepass, so discs will be worthless to me on that side of the console fence.
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Old 08-18-2020, 12:44 PM   #40
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400 is a bit much for what this consoles spec is rumoured to be. MS would probably be making over $200 per unit at that price

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