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Old 09-21-2020, 04:59 PM   #21
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Doom, Fallout, Elder Scrolls oh and Fallout New Vegas 2 is possible now. not to mention Avowed, Xbox will end up having the biggest rpgs this gen, while Sony devs chasing twitter clout lol

but really as someone who prefers PlayStation's consoles, I have to say this is a huge loss for Sony, unless Microsoft keep these multiplatforms
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Old 09-21-2020, 05:03 PM   #22
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Big Dick move my MS for sure! Great timing too, one day before XSX preorders go live.

Now, I could be wrong but I have a sneaking suspicion that Bethesda games will continue to be made available everywhere, despite being owned by MS. You don't pay 7.5 Billion for a publisher just to keep those games exclusive to just your platform. The real exclusivity will come in the form of those games being available day and date in Game Pass.

Paying $7.5 Billion is exactly why they will make them exclusive.

This news single handedly evens the next gen battlefield. Without this, Microsoft falls far behind Sony, and Sony wins...again.
You guys thinking this deal is multi platform are dreaming. Sorry.
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Old 09-21-2020, 05:06 PM   #23
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This news reaffirms my decision to build a gaming PC.
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Old 09-21-2020, 05:06 PM   #24
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Paying $7.5 Billion is exactly why they will make them exclusive.

This news single handedly evens the next gen battlefield. Without this, Microsoft falls far behind Sony, and Sony wins...again.

This is going to be interesting.
Microsoft is smart.
One, this builds up their Gamepass library without needing to buy all these licensing deals. Plus They make money for selling these games on PS5...it's a win-win for them, since they're not trying to outsell Sony.
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Old 09-21-2020, 05:12 PM   #25
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Microsoft is smart.
One, this builds up their Gamepass library without needing to buy all these licensing deals. Plus They make money for selling these games on PS5...it's a win-win for them, since they're not trying to outsell Sony.
Well Microsoft would be dumb if theses titles weren't exclusive. There would be zero reason to own a series S/X. They aren't trying to outsell Sony, they Are trying to get the biggest install base for that monthly subscription fee known as "Game Pass" !

Without exclusivity they would lose millions of potential customers, as those millions play it on PS5 instead of buying an XBox.

Like I said, No way these wind up on a Sony platform. No way.
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Old 09-21-2020, 05:16 PM   #26
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Well Microsoft would be dumb if theses titles weren't exclusive. There would be zero reason to own a series S/X. They aren't trying to outsell Sony, they Are trying to get the biggest install base for that monthly subscription fee known as "Game Pass" !

Without exclusivity they would lose millions of potential customers, as those millions play it on PS5 instead of buying an XBox.

Like I said, No way these wind up on a Sony platform. No way.
Millions playing on a PS5 means Microsoft still gets that money.

And you dont even need an xbox to play gamepass games anymore, as I can play them all on my android phone & Bluetooth controller if I wanted to.
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Old 09-21-2020, 05:23 PM   #27
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ny_Corporation
Including: Naughty Dog, Guerrilla, & Sucker Punch
None of those are publishers. I don't think Sony has ever purchased one
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Old 09-21-2020, 05:28 PM   #28
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People acting like Sony didn't buy a bunch of studios themselves.

This move is fine, I have nothing against it.
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Old 09-21-2020, 05:28 PM   #29
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Millions playing on a PS5 means Microsoft still gets that money.

And you dont even need an xbox to play gamepass games anymore, as I can play them all on my android phone & Bluetooth controller if I wanted to.
How many current games from game companies partnered with Microsoft can you play on your PS4?

Not going to happen man, sorry.
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Old 09-21-2020, 05:30 PM   #30
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None of those are publishers. I don't think Sony has ever purchased one
To me, buying a developer or buying a publisher does the same thing. I was just pointing out that if it was Sony who purchased Bethesda for 7.5 billion, the reaction would be the exact opposite for a lot of people here, while my stance would remain unchanged.

Honestly, I prefer more games on Gamepass, because I have it lol. I'm not a part of the console wars, and want both companies to be successful
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Old 09-21-2020, 05:32 PM   #31
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People acting like Sony didn't buy a bunch of studios themselves.

This move is fine, I have nothing against it.
They purchased 2nd party studios that were largely making games for their owned IPs for years. They never purchased a third party published that owned multiple studios that were making IPs that were made everywhere. Its not quite the same thing. This is a bigger deal than Sony purchasing a studio like Naughty Dog that was long associated with and only making games for them

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To me, buying a developer or buying a publisher does the same thing. I was just pointing out that if it was Sony who purchased Bethesda for 7.5 billion, the reaction would be the exact opposite for a lot of people here, while my stance would remain unchanged.

Honestly, I prefer more games on Gamepass, because I have it lol. I'm not a part of the console wars, and want both companies to be successful
Its not. See above

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Old 09-21-2020, 05:33 PM   #32
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How many current games from game companies partnered with Microsoft can you play on your PS4?

Not going to happen man, sorry.
I know the Ori games are on switch, and all xbox games on gamepass can be played on a mobile device now. But I do not have any specific examples off the top of my head.
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Old 09-21-2020, 05:33 PM   #33
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How many current games from game companies partnered with Microsoft can you play on your PS4?

Not going to happen man, sorry.
Yes it is man, sorry.

https://n4g.com/news/2373877/bethesd...self-published
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Old 09-21-2020, 05:38 PM   #34
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It's a fantastic move by MS. They can put out all the Bethesda games on GPU, whilst the chumps who only have a PS have fork out $70 each, MS makes a profit from the PS sales and Xbox users reap the rewards of GPU.

Microsoft also owns Majong and we still get Minecraft on multi plat.
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Old 09-21-2020, 05:39 PM   #35
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It's a fantastic move by MS. They can put out all the Bethesda games on GPU, whilst the chumps who only have a PS have fork out $70 each, MS makes a profit from the PS sales and Xbox users reap the rewards of GPU.
Dude, really? Anyone who prefers to own their games are now "chumps?" I would think as the moderator you would set a better example.
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Old 09-21-2020, 05:40 PM   #36
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The correct answer to his question is zero.
Except for no, it's not zero...but I guess just denying facts works in blind fanboyism?

Whether it's Naughty Dog back in 2001, or Insomniac Games as recently as this past February... "Zero" is not remotely the answer.

Not to mention third party developers they haven't purchased, but still paid large sums of money for exclusive titles (as well as exclusive add ons, and timed "exclusive" multiplayer content) but.... Yeah.

Sure.

MS pulling devs under their umbrella BAD!
Sony doing the same...never happened/awesome!

Edit*** "2nd party" has long been considered an obsolete/meaningless term for several years now, since the console maker's influence on them is essentially the same as them being an in-house/first party studio.
Pretending Sony hasn't purchased studios is still absolutely false, even if you "move the goalposts" in some weird attempt to lionize a piece of plastic and circuitry that you pay money to own and use...

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Old 09-21-2020, 05:42 PM   #37
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Dude, really? Anyone who prefers to own their games are now "chumps?" I would think as the moderator you would set a better example.
should have to have an auto /s function

People are too serious on the internet. People can do what they like with their money, GaaS from MS is good value for money. But people still bash it. You can't win whatever your preference is.
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Did that article state PS5, most likely XBOX, and PC....if Sony as well
then Microsoft just blew $7.5 billion for nothing.
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I also believe you don't even own your disk games.

I own Rainbow Six: Siege digitally. I couldn't play a few days ago because servers were down. My buddy has the disk and he also couldn't play.

In my opinion there is no difference in your "digital rights" these days, whether it be digital or physical
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Did that article state PS5, most likely XBOX, and PC....if Sony as well
then Microsoft just blew $7.5 billion for nothing.
Not for nothing, not if every game ends up on GPU day one. They will make billions in GPU subs. They already do ($2.4 billion last year) from their subscription services anyway but this would certainly help bring in more subs.
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