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Old 02-26-2017, 06:05 PM   #301
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A few brief comments, which hopefully will help clear up the apparent confusion that exists here:

This restoration, currently available in Italy only, but coming shortly also in Germany and, later, other territories, was explicitly NOT ordered and made to create just another new master for home video - the restoration was made by us for PRESERVATION, so to preserve the film in precisely the way it was originally made back in 1977 for future generations to have an exact reference of the original Technicolor image and sound and was made at the wishes and behalf of the world rights owner.

TLEFilms FRPS is NOT a distributor or label, we RESTORE films for preservation and in some cases also are asked to consult or supervise on the technical workflow on subsequent video releases by owners or licensees of the respective films - such as the encoding process.

We were not involved on encoding of the Italian Blu-ray release, but were asked to do the supervision for the release in there German territories and others.

Re: encoding on the Italian Blu-ray release of our restoration:
Is the quality really bad and represents the restoration in any way as VERY NOTICEABLY wrong ? - No.
Is there - with a better encoding - "room" for improvements and therefore a noticeably (even) better grain reproduction/delineation, level of detail/texture and in the better resolve of color reproduction and resolution ? Yes.

Re: Italian (Main/Opening and Closing/End) Credits:
The Italian credits were recreated, based on the ORIGINAL CREDITS. The reason why is that some of the 35mm overlays of the Italian credit sequences of this film are lost. The old video masters had a wrong end credits sequence attached that was made using simple type fonts that were also wrongly composited with the textless background. The new, recreated type fonts are based on the original fonts.

The original ENGLISH Main/Opening and Closing/End credits have been restored by us from the original 35mm overlays and background exactly as they were in the 1977 release. These are exclusive to this, our restoration for preservation. The first release to feature the entire restoration in this way will be the one coming soon in Germany.

I now have to go back to our (currently three) restoration "patients" for preservation that need attention.
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Old 02-26-2017, 06:23 PM   #302
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It's really very simple,if you want the currently best worldwide release of this classic and can okay Region B then ditch your German and UK crap and buy this.if you want to wait for the new German or the Synapse then that's fine. But for now this is the best available home release of this classic

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I don't think anyone said otherwise?
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Old 02-26-2017, 06:26 PM   #303
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I said i wouldn't...But you seem.to be holding on to the crappy UK disc so clearly don't want to own the CURRENT worldwide best release

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Thanks again Torsten for your time in clearing that up.
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Old 02-26-2017, 06:27 PM   #305
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I said i wouldn't...But you seem.to be holding on to the crappy UK disc so clearly don't want to own the CURRENT worldwide best release

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Give it up mate your trolling now.

I will hang on to it until the future superior releases come along as i don't think i have watched it in many years.
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Thanks again Torsten for your time in clearing that up.
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Old 02-26-2017, 06:40 PM   #307
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Sorry Torsten, I forgot an important detail, do both restorations derived from that same 4K scan that took place in 2013 (?) at Technicolor, Rome?

Edit: Yes it is.


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Old 02-26-2017, 06:40 PM   #308
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Give it up mate your trolling now.

I will hang on to it until the future superior releases come along as i don't think i have watched it in many years.
It's not me that's been told how annoying they are by other posters

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So if the opening credits are an exact recreation of the original credits, how come they are not in sync
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Old 02-26-2017, 06:42 PM   #311
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So if the opening credits are an exact recreation of the original credits, how come they are not in sync
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In sync with what anyway?
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Sorry Torsten, I forgot an important detail, does both restorations derived from that same 4K scan that took place in 2013 (?) at Technicolor, Rome?
I know your asking Torsten, but i did hear somewhere they did, but i could be mistaken?
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In sync with what anyway?
The music cues...
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If someone was watching the UK disc and another was watching the new Italian who would be happier with the presentation as the end credits rolled? Quite a relevant query in light of who owns what imo

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If someone was watching the UK disc and another was watching the new Italian who would be happier with the presentation as the end credits rolled? Quite a relevant query in light of who owns what imo

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I will be happy with the best possible release, which looks like it is not to far away. Why are you keep referring to the UK release, we are talking about the Italian release as far as i know? I have the UK release and it is indeed awful. You should see some of the other releases i own, Predator, Bird With The Crystal Plumage (Arrow) and many others. But again i think we are talking about the new release of Suspira from Italy?

Anyway as i said your undoubtedly trolling now and have no real interest in the actual film, so i ask you to please refrain from doing so or i will report your posts.

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Old 02-26-2017, 08:20 PM   #317
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Sorry but what a rather ridiculous statement. So you are saying the guy who did the restoration is wrong? Or might this be down to purchase justification.





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again, another one who doesnt know how to read or even identify who i am replaying too, or his posting history... anyway... again... is ok, cheers
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I hope that upcoming German disc doesn't have burnt-in subtitles.

Pretty cool to hear that the end credits are reconstructions of the true original Italian ones. So aside from the encode which could be improved on, it seems the only thing "wrong" with this release is the supposed sync error in the opening titles.
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again, another one who doesnt know how to read or even identify who i am replaying too, or his posting history... anyway... again... is ok, cheers
Erm, post #217, it is pretty obvious who you were replying to.
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I hope that upcoming German disc doesn't have burnt-in subtitles.

Pretty cool to hear that the end credits are reconstructions of the true original Italian ones. So aside from the encode which could be improved on, it seems the only thing "wrong" with this release is the supposed sync error in the opening titles.
Yep. Or maybe more who knows. That is why i am hanging on for the German, Synapse or maybe even the Arrow release. As they say an encode can make or break a film and is vitally important.
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