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Old 08-18-2019, 01:10 AM   #4221
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The B7 will be a little better in shadow details then the B6 has
C9 should be better at this.
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Old 08-18-2019, 02:02 AM   #4222
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C9 should be better at this.
Of course, it should be better, even better after it is calibrated B7

Panasonic GZ960 is even better, no crush out of the box.
After calibration B7 no crush, B6 awful crush
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Old 08-20-2019, 05:45 PM   #4223
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I am watching mindhunter from my Apple 4k tv in DV and notching that the picture some times get dim and bright again is this the ABL? Don't happen often.

My Tv is B7
Happened here and there while I was watching as well (on a C8, using both the internal Netflex app and a Firestick 4K app). Mostly hops into a much brighter mode for me. I notice if I change the display setting and rewind to the point I was at, it will stay the same. Not sure if it's relating to streaming data fluctuations, I've only ever had it happen on Netflix. Glad to hear it's not just me!
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Old 08-24-2019, 07:03 PM   #4224
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I noticed while watching Mindhunter on Netflix that my C8 wasn't offering true black levels when using Dolby Vision. The black bars and fades to black get dark, but the black levels look more like LED LCD levels, not the true OLED blacks as usual. Anyone else notice this? Is there a solution? I was streaming via Apple TV 4K.
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Old 08-27-2019, 11:40 PM   #4225
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Happened here and there while I was watching as well (on a C8, using both the internal Netflex app and a Firestick 4K app). Mostly hops into a much brighter mode for me. I notice if I change the display setting and rewind to the point I was at, it will stay the same. Not sure if it's relating to streaming data fluctuations, I've only ever had it happen on Netflix. Glad to hear it's not just me!
Yea I thought so too that it was Netflix, I just watched pet semetary on disc HDR and it did the exact same thing it as it goes back to SDR and when I turned the volume down because I have my headset connected to the tv then HDR kicks in again

This has only happened to me after I updated to the latest FW

Does anybody know what is doing this?
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Old 08-29-2019, 03:47 PM   #4226
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Different tv and different media for me. I have a C7 and was watching the UHD disc of Endgame the other day. Picture was a but dim but nothing strikingly out of the ordinary. The scene where they get to Tony's cabin the overall brightness ramped up. Same behavior though. I stepped back to right before it and watched again and the brightness remained the original value.
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Old 08-29-2019, 06:19 PM   #4227
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Different tv and different media for me. I have a C7 and was watching the UHD disc of Endgame the other day. Picture was a but dim but nothing strikingly out of the ordinary. The scene where they get to Tony's cabin the overall brightness ramped up. Same behavior though. I stepped back to right before it and watched again and the brightness remained the original value.
The same is happening to me too Netflix and my HDR disc and I I only noticed after the latest FW
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Old 08-30-2019, 09:55 AM   #4228
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I honestly don't know what LG are playing at with their C-series OLEDs. They are great out of the box yet they keep issuing firmware updates that cause issues.

Makes me glad I was too tight to spend the extra on the C8 as the B-series, while having lower specs, seems to get less destructive FW updates. Maybe the lower specs are a blessing in disguise as they can't endlessly tinker with more advanced processing.
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Old 08-30-2019, 07:35 PM   #4229
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I thought the VUDU streaming issue had been resolved on my B8, but it popped up this last weekend. Couldn't get through a movie without multiple stops/starts. It's really frustrating since I just got that Vizio Atmos sourround sound system installed too...
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Different tv and different media for me. I have a C7 and was watching the UHD disc of Endgame the other day. Picture was a but dim but nothing strikingly out of the ordinary. The scene where they get to Tony's cabin the overall brightness ramped up. Same behavior though. I stepped back to right before it and watched again and the brightness remained the original value.
Dynamic tonemapping on? Or does c7 have option?
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Old 09-10-2019, 08:10 PM   #4231
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Dynamic tonemapping on? Or does c7 have option?
That began with the 8 series I believe.
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Old 09-11-2019, 12:24 AM   #4232
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Dynamic tonemapping on? Or does c7 have option?
The c7 does have dtm but for that model they made it part of dynamic contrast. Set dynamic contrast to low to turn dtm on, it doesn't actually turn on dynamic contrast in less you set it to medium or higher. Why they did it that way idk but they ended up changing with the 8&9 series to it's own setting in the menu. https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c7-oled/settings
Scroll down to the active hdr paragraph to see what I am saying.
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From another thread, a user has said their sharpness is ISF calibrated to 10 and that was supposed to be neutral. Other sources insist 0 is true neutral.

I always thought it was 0. Thoughts?
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From another thread, a user has said their sharpness is ISF calibrated to 10 and that was supposed to be neutral. Other sources insist 0 is true neutral.

I always thought it was 0. Thoughts?
Yep, I'd also like to have that confirmed
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From another thread, a user has said their sharpness is ISF calibrated to 10 and that was supposed to be neutral. Other sources insist 0 is true neutral.

I always thought it was 0. Thoughts?
On an 8 series set a user in the AVSForums found that Sharpness 1-10 resulted in edge smoothing/anti-aliasing. I tested using the same patterns on my OLED65C9 and found no evidence of the edge smoothing/anti-aliasing or any other differences between Sharpness settings 0-10. If there is a resulting difference between those settings on the C9, I'm not seeing it. There definitely is a detectible change starting at Sharpness 11, with the start of ringing visible on the sharpness pattern of the new Spears & Munsil disc.

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Old 09-11-2019, 01:29 PM   #4237
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Old 09-11-2019, 03:45 PM   #4238
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Interesting. I wonder if 1-10 only kicks in with TV-upscaled content and/or when just scan is off? With zero favouring anti-aliasing, 10 sharpness. Just a mad theory.

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Interesting. I wonder if 1-10 only kicks in with TV-upscaled content and/or when just scan is off? With zero favouring anti-aliasing, 10 sharpness. Just a mad theory.
It apparently didn't on the 8 series. The patterns used to demonstrate the anti-aliasing/edge smoothing on the 8 were the same ones I used, from the Mehanik HDR10 test patterns. On the 8 series, there was no edge smoothing/anti-aliasing at Sharpness 0, but it was very evident at Sharpness 10.
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Old 09-11-2019, 05:46 PM   #4240
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So would you say your findings support 0 as having both antialiasing and sharpening to neutral and 10 is before it starts to add EE ringing?

I can see why there’s a bit of confusion over 0 or 10. Are both essentially the correct setting? Given what you’ve said I can totally understand why a calibrator would go for 10 since regardless of brand that would be following the accepted norm of finding where it starts to add artefacts and dial back.

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