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Old 09-02-2022, 12:14 AM   #261
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Kris Deering calibrated all of the new Sonys and JVCs (and Epson LS12000) for an event in Colorado. He also posted measurements. The JVCs were widely considered the best from the audience by all reports of people who attended. There is discussion over at AVS about it.
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Old 09-02-2022, 12:49 AM   #262
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Quite honestly I don’t even understand why the shootout is needed. I’ve been saying the exact same thing from the first moment Somy released their new laser projector and the first week Epson released their LS12000. The difference in quality between the 3 projectors are so great to the point that you don’t even need to do a shootout to see the difference.
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Old 09-02-2022, 03:24 PM   #263
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There are a variety of different interests in the industry who sponsor these events. Sony and JVC reps were present at the Colorado one.

There are also some rabid Sony fanboys who claimed these new Sonys would crush the JVCs. But the data and most viewers seem to differ.

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Old 09-02-2022, 03:59 PM   #264
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Yup. When I posted my Sony X7000 review, Sony fanbois were attacking me when I said the JVC is better than Sony. One of them was angry because I “only” spent 8 hours doing the tests for the review.
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Old 09-02-2022, 05:41 PM   #265
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Its good to have competition with both JVC and Sony offering LCOS projectors. Each year both companies come out with new better models. The nice thing about JVC is they offer HDR10+ where as Sony only offers HDR10. JVC for around 10+ years has been the leader in LCOS projectors and they are normally a notch above the Sony’s when it comes to picture quality. I just hope one of these days Sony or JVC will work with Dolby to offer the home version of Dolby Vision HDR on all projectors under $60,000 and maybe projectors over $60,000 offer both the home and professional cinema version of Dolby Vision HDR (might need two projectors to increase the brightness which would also improve the 3D performance along with nice Dolby Vision HDR performance).
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Old 09-02-2022, 09:25 PM   #266
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Actually, JVC went three years before releasing their latest laser models. Sony's releases have been more frequent although really not much change in PQ. Sony changes model numbers more than anything else.
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Old 09-02-2022, 10:24 PM   #267
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There is no point in releasing every year when you’re over and over keep releasing inferior products.

During the 3 years of JVC releasing the same model they upgraded the features and performance of their NX series very dramatically
… TWICE… without charging their customers extra.
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Old 09-03-2022, 02:14 AM   #268
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With the new Sony projectors out in the wild how are the JVC NZ projectors stacking up? I'm still eying the NZ8 but may have to push it back a few months.
Also if you still like your 3D films, you gotta go with JVC. Happy with my NX7 but you know, one day
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Old 09-03-2022, 04:10 PM   #269
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@silentbob, Sony new VPL-X6000ES and VPL-XW7000ES are 3D capable.

NZ7, NZ8, and NZ9 are very slowly just now starting to become available, but the small allocations are just starting to fill backorders. New order will be a few months out to be filled.
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Old 09-03-2022, 07:52 PM   #270
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Just try getting 3D glasses from Sony Canada. It’s no longer exist.
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Old 09-05-2022, 08:05 AM   #271
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Just try getting 3D glasses from Sony Canada. It’s no longer exist.
My 3D glasses from a old Samsung 720p plasma (SSG-5100GB) work with my NZ8.

However, the 3D glasses I have from Sony (TDG-BT500A) are a tiny bit better.

Both are good though. I think I have 10 pairs total. 2 from Sony, 8 from Samsung.

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Old 09-05-2022, 02:22 PM   #272
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Here's what you need to watch 3D on Sony's new VPL-XW6000Es and the XW7000ES 4k Laser projectors:

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Old 09-09-2022, 01:17 PM   #273
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Just try getting 3D glasses from Sony Canada. Itís no longer exist.
I bought the Hi-Shock glasses from our .ca site and work great with my NX7 and XpanD RF emitter. They have several designs and would suggest (if you need some) the Onyx/Diamond versions because the have the extra plastic to block that side light when viewing your movies.
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New firmware coming soon...

FW Update news IFA Berlin (Google translator):

JVC - Filmmaker mode and 25th Anniversary

For the first time, JVC presents its current NZ series devices at IFA. However, the 4K and 8K models are not ready for demonstration, but are exhibited on small columns. JVC has dispensed with a home cinema this year to show its projectors to visitors.

As news, the company offers a free update for the NZ models. The firmware version can soon be downloaded free of charge from the company website and installed via USB stick.

It includes a filmmaker mode that fulfills the intention of the directors without further settings. This includes true-to-life 24 Hz playback, precise color space display and the deactivation of any image alienating tools. The goal: The viewer should watch movies at home exactly as the filmmakers intended, without having to make a single setting in the image menus.

There is also a 25th Anniversary series under discussion. This is the flagship of JVC (DLA-NZ9), which will be available in a very limited edition for the anniversary exclusively in the colors white and silver.
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Old 09-10-2022, 12:07 AM   #275
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With the new Sony projectors out in the wild how are the JVC NZ projectors stacking up? I'm still eying the NZ8 but may have to push it back a few months.
You may want to research SXRD panel degradation on Sony PJs.

There's a big thread over on AVS on the subject- and it was the reason I replaced my VW50 after three years. I've had my current JVC going on nine, which supplanted my first JVC, bought in 2009 (from Mr. Zohn, actually), that I still use.
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Old 09-12-2022, 04:50 PM   #276
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I bought the Hi-Shock glasses from our .ca site and work great with my NX7 and XpanD RF emitter. They have several designs and would suggest (if you need some) the Onyx/Diamond versions because the have the extra plastic to block that side light when viewing your movies.
One question, do you need to set your projector to 1080p to watch 3d movies? Or they work without issue when setting at 4K? I have to install mine yet but I read few months ago some user ( on FB group ) saying he had problems watching 3D movies and other user told him to set the projector to 1080p.
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One question, do you need to set your projector to 1080p to watch 3d movies? Or they work without issue when setting at 4K? I have to install mine yet but I read few months ago some user ( on FB group ) saying he had problems watching 3D movies and other user told him to set the projector to 1080p.
3D doesn't exist in 4k. That being said, your projector should automatically change to whatever format you put in, including 3D, unless you have an ancient projector that doesn't do it.
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I know 4K 3D doesn't exist. The problem according to this guy is that when he was watching a 3D movie the image was bad and setting the projector to 1080p seems to solve the problem, in his case.
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I know 4K 3D doesn't exist. The problem according to this guy is that when he was watching a 3D movie the image was bad and setting the projector to 1080p seems to solve the problem, in his case.
Depends on the projector...with my last 4 projectors, 2 of them being 4k, I've had nothing to do except insert the disc.
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Native 4K in 3D only exists in commercial movie theaters like Dolby Cinema and IMAX. Blu-ray 3D is a native 1080P format maximum. If 3D for the home became popular again then a new native 4K Blu-ray 3D format could be created (add it to the 8K Blu-ray format that might launch in 2026-2028 timeframe).
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