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Old 08-07-2007, 04:51 AM   #1
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Default Sony 1080i HD Camcorders

So, the consumer camcorders out on the market today say recording in 1080i. Why doesn't Sony offer a model to record in 1080p? Wouldn't that make sense in this day and age of 1080p BD and TVs?
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Old 08-07-2007, 05:02 AM   #2
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yeah i dont know why they didnt.


lol,i have a question,since hd is the new era...you think people will bent far enough to have there brand new HD camcorder recording movies at IMAX in hd?.

would be pretty funny to hear...



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Old 08-07-2007, 05:04 AM   #3
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yeah i dont know why they didnt.


lol,i have a question,since hd is the new era...you think people will bent far enough to have there brand new HD camcorder recording movies at IMAX in hd?.

would be pretty funny to hear...
Well, sure, they are recording movies now with their crappy MiniDV and DVD camcorders...better end result product for their customers by using HD to film new movies...
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Old 08-07-2007, 05:10 AM   #4
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1080p takes a much faster scanrate on the CCD, faster more expensive parts all around by quite a bit.
With 1080i, it only has to scan 540 lines at once. 1080p would be all 1080
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Old 08-07-2007, 05:11 AM   #5
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they'll ask

"Ur Just Getting that on on Blu Ray?"

they'll ask you that question and we'll have to say

"Yeah,but no special features,bare bones Movie and menu,you?"

them: "Hahah!,when will they ever add that on another Disk!,idiots!..of even on the same movie since its the new 50GB!"
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Old 08-07-2007, 05:51 AM   #6
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Hitachi has just announced the first Blu-ray video camera that can record directly to Blu-ray and will also be full 1080p. One will be a Blu-ray only the other will be a Blu-ray and HDD combo. Should be pretty cool. Not due until September or October, I would think Sony can't be too far behind, although they seem pretty committed to AVCHD units at the moment. I have one and it is awesome.
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Old 08-07-2007, 06:22 AM   #7
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But those are Mini-BluRay recordables. How will someone like myself with a slot loading computer [iMac] be able to play them? Not at all, that is the problem with that camcorder.
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Old 08-07-2007, 04:36 PM   #8
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But those are Mini-BluRay recordables. How will someone like myself with a slot loading computer [iMac] be able to play them? Not at all, that is the problem with that camcorder.
My PS3 is a slot loading "computer" and it plays my mini-DVDs just fine, has no problem with them. I guess if your iMac does its just another form over function design limitation of an Apple product. But my guess is they'll load fine.
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Hitachi has just announced the first Blu-ray video camera that can record directly to Blu-ray and will also be full 1080p
It might be artificial 1080p, de-interlacing before writing

A true 1080p video camera is VERY expensive. I don't think it's consumer affordable right now period

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My PS3 is a slot loading "computer" and it plays my mini-DVDs just fine, has no problem with them. I guess if your iMac does its just another form over function design limitation of an Apple product. But my guess is they'll load fine.
Design over function has always been the Apple mantra. I hate slot loads period, they scream fingerprints. I keep hoping I can hold out for a PS3-2 that might be tray load, but I honestly think the slot is more protection against fliptop swaps than anything else.
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Old 08-08-2007, 06:24 AM   #10
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My PS3 is a slot loading "computer" and it plays my mini-DVDs just fine, has no problem with them. I guess if your iMac does its just another form over function design limitation of an Apple product. But my guess is they'll load fine.
The Apple manual says, DON'T DO IT, so I don't.
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Old 08-08-2007, 07:30 AM   #11
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It might be artificial 1080p, de-interlacing before writing

A true 1080p video camera is VERY expensive. I don't think it's consumer affordable right now period



Design over function has always been the Apple mantra. I hate slot loads period, they scream fingerprints. I keep hoping I can hold out for a PS3-2 that might be tray load, but I honestly think the slot is more protection against fliptop swaps than anything else.
Well you can check out the thread here:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...hlight=HItachi

and it seems from the specs its true HD.
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Old 08-13-2007, 09:46 AM   #12
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I have the Sony HDR-SR1 HDD camcorder and its awesome. Since I am using an iMac (intel), I use Final Cut Pro 6 to edit all of my footage. Apple has been a big supporter of Blu-Ray and the new avchd codec. Unfortunately, to edit avchd in Final Cut, you need to convert the footage to a quicktime format which means up to 5 times the amount of space. Just get a 500GB hdd and you should be fine. If anyone needs help with handling avchd on Macs, feel free to contact me.

P.S. The new iMovie in iLife 08 now supports native avchd editing. Gotta love Apple
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:18 PM   #13
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Well you can check out the thread here:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread....hlight=HItachi

and it seems from the specs its true HD.
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The camcorder also have a CMOS capable of handling 5.3 million pixels, offering the camera the ability to take still pictures of a full high-definition TV (1920?1080p/60Hz).
Stills do not equal video
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Old 08-13-2007, 06:40 PM   #14
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The camcorder also have a CMOS capable of handling 5.3 million pixels, offering the camera the ability to take still pictures of a full high-definition TV (1920?1080p/60Hz).
Stills do not equal video

My Sony DSLR takes pictures 3872x2592. All the still pictures in HD comment means is they are at least 1080.
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Old 08-13-2007, 07:17 PM   #15
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I have a canon HDV (A1), and all I can say is OUCH. A 1080P camcorder is hideously expensive. Remember, 720P camcorders are incredibly expensive... and 1080P is always more. Though yes, both are actually on the market. Just be aware, a nice new car might be a more reasonable choice")
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I got the hdr-sr1 sony handycam. Records everything to a 20 gb hdd, which is more than enough....

I edit all my footage with Final Cut Pro on my iMac (who doesn't )

I can't wait until avchd becomes native for editing in most editors
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I have Sony's HDR-UX7 (the 8cm DVD disks)
I get 27-29 minutes on each Dual Layer Sony disc.

I am a "very" amateur video person for vacations, kids events, etc so I don't mind the DVD format which I can pop right into my PS3 and play in HD which looks great in med to high light conditions but the grain appears in darker situations mainly due to the CMOS sensor being so sensitive with the 3.2 the UX5 has a lower sensor but has better dark performance ..

I can delete unwanted scenes and even convert to mpeg2 dvd quality as I am sure everyone knows and then edit it from there for relatives.

i don't think I would ever buy a Blu-Ray camcorder until it hits the $1000-$1500 price points because to most average older people who'll you'll be showing your footage to even if they have a blu-ray player they wont' have a gigantic screen that can show a measurable difference between 1080i and 1080p.

I'll stick with my 1080i UX7 for now hehe. Even though its only 1440x1080 close enough to 1920x1080 for me.

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Default Playing blu-ray from sony hdr-ux7 on samsung bd-p1000

I just bought a sony ux7 and recorded and finalized my first hi-def blu-ray disc. It plays fine when the camcorder is hooked up to hi-def tv but will not play in samsung Bd-P1000 blu-ray player. I have latest firmware upgrade (v.1.3). It recognizes the disc but not the recording. Any suggestions?
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Old 12-09-2007, 05:43 PM   #19
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Canon's spec says that it is a full 1080 recorder at 24p. And not that expensive.

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-AVCHD-De...221897&sr=1-22
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I just bought a sony ux7 and recorded and finalized my first hi-def blu-ray disc. It plays fine when the camcorder is hooked up to hi-def tv but will not play in samsung Bd-P1000 blu-ray player. I have latest firmware upgrade (v.1.3). It recognizes the disc but not the recording. Any suggestions?
what format is it being recorded in? do u have the ability to(if necessary)too be hooked up to a computer and change into a diffrent format? are u burnning a disc ? do u ahve it set up as data disc?>(hopefully not)
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