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Old 08-13-2018, 10:46 PM   #221
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That was common especially in the last years of Beta. I've seen some that didn't even have the boxes modified for the smaller tapes, just let it slide around. The very last pre-recorded Beta was Mission Impossible with only 25 copies made which were special ordered.
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Old 08-15-2018, 07:56 PM   #222
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I had a friend give me Braveheart, Sleepy Hollow, Deep Blue Sea (brand new), The Sixth Sense and The Patriot.
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Old 08-15-2018, 08:48 PM   #223
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That was common especially in the last years of Beta. I've seen some that didn't even have the boxes modified for the smaller tapes, just let it slide around. The very last pre-recorded Beta was Mission Impossible with only 25 copies made which were special ordered.
Wow. I thought "He doesn't mean the Tom Cruise Mission: Impossible does he?" So I looked it up and couldn't believe it was! I had no idea Beta had still been going up to the mid-90s. I think I'd last seen Beta tapes back in the '80s.
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Old 08-16-2018, 06:55 AM   #224
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I'd thought Lion King was the last Beta title, but learned about Mission Impossible later. I don't know what else was released between those two. I got my first Beta VCR cheap at a flea market in 1994, just to be able to play any Beta tapes I found. There was a catalog you could get through the mail for a place that only sold pre-recorded Beta tapes, though I never bought any from them. Last time I ever saw Beta tapes for rental in any store was 1990, and they sold them off that same year.
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:23 PM   #225
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Interesting. I do remember the VHS/Beta format war back in the '80's. I don't remember ever seeing a Beta tape, but do remember hearing that Beta was of slightly higher quality than VHS - can't confirm this, however.

In any case, I stopped hearing about Beta probably back in the mid-'80's - had not idea it survived into the '90's. That being said, at that time I wasn't the huge movie fan/aficionado that I am now.

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Old 08-17-2018, 12:40 AM   #226
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I'm super picky about quality and have both Beta and VHS, and honestly can't tell a big difference between them. If you really cared about quality in the analog era, laserdisc was the only real choice.
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Old 08-17-2018, 04:37 PM   #227
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Beta had a huge picture quality advantage over VHS because it didn't encode the video signals together, whereas VHS did.

Back in the day it was video differential was fairly obvious to even the casual viewer. The thing is that most people were just used to VHS and Beta had a minority of consumers because JVC opened up the license and the market was flooded with VHS players.

Another example of superior technology losing to smart marketing.

Laserdisc was superior to both. However, it was really reserved for movie aficionados with money to burn. Plus, you had to flip the huge disc which looked like a vinyl record halfway through your movie.

Artwork on the Laserdisc sleeves were nice though.
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Old 08-21-2018, 04:53 PM   #228
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Laserdisc was superior to both. However, it was really reserved for movie aficionados with money to burn. Plus, you had to flip the huge disc which looked like a vinyl record halfway through your movie.
While the LD PQ was better than VHS tapes, I would have to say the format itself was about the same - i.e., they were both terrible.

VHS tapes were:

clunky,
awkward,
took up a lot of space,
would sometimes get "eaten" by the VCR (and ruin both the tape & machine),
inconvenient (need to rewind), and,
were quite expensive to purchase - at least in the early days.

Laserdiscs may have had slightly better PQ, but they were also:

large,
awkward,
took up a lot of space,
inconvenient (had to be turned over half-way through a film),
prone to scratches (like vinyl records), and...
were quite expensive to purchase, and never went down in price - this applied to both the individual LD's & the player.

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Old 09-17-2018, 03:57 AM   #229
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Last Saturday, I got a second copy of this tape off eBay:

The Rescuers Down Under (1991 VHS)

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Old 09-18-2018, 04:42 AM   #230
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I found but didnt buy at an expensive thrift shop that relies on ebay prices

they have the VHS of Unbreakable.

I wouldnt mind getting the old VHS of Unbreakable since the DVD of Unbreakable is hard to find these days.

Plus with the cruddy junk thrift store relying on ebay prices for their stuff, VHS tapes in the store are probably expensive at 9 bucks
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Old 09-18-2018, 01:57 PM   #231
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$3 1992 Star Wars




pix and info here: Link
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Old 09-18-2018, 02:57 PM   #232
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Recently bought a couple of old Late Night with David Letterman tapes, even though I no longer own a VCR.
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Old 09-28-2018, 06:38 AM   #233
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$3 1992 Star Wars




pix and info here: Link
But those are from '95...

Also that is a horrid website. The giant ass banner on top takes up half the screen!
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Old 12-03-2018, 09:47 PM   #234
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Old 12-04-2018, 12:33 AM   #235
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recently bought a couple of old late night with david letterman tapes, even though i no longer own a vcr.
lol.
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Old 12-04-2018, 02:30 AM   #236
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While the LD PQ was better than VHS tapes, I would have to say the format itself was about the same - i.e., they were both terrible.

VHS tapes were:

clunky,
awkward,
took up a lot of space,
would sometimes get "eaten" by the VCR (and ruin both the tape & machine),
inconvenient (need to rewind), and,
were quite expensive to purchase - at least in the early days.

Laserdiscs may have had slightly better PQ, but they were also:

large,
awkward,
took up a lot of space,
inconvenient (had to be turned over half-way through a film),
prone to scratches (like vinyl records), and...
were quite expensive to purchase, and never went down in price - this applied to both the individual LD's & the player.
Some notes about your laserdisc list:

They were large, but that was also a plus, because they had gorgeous covers, wonderful gatefold liner notes, and more.

Laserdiscs take up the same amount of space as records. I can store 50 laserdiscs in about 15" of storage width. If that's a lot of space to you, I don't know what to tell you.

"Prone to scratches"? Scratches are by misuse and accidents. The laserdisc or record is no more prone to scratches left on their own. It's the individual user who is prone to scratching the media. At any rate, you are confusing the durability of laserdiscs to vinyl. Truth be told, laserdiscs can handle scratches, and play quite well in spite of them. Laserdiscs are more durable and can play through scratches much better than dvds.

The flipping of laserdiscs was only a real issue if you had an older/cheaper player which didn't have auto-flip. Granted, if you had an extra-long movie with multiple discs, then at some point you would have to get up and put another disc in, but the A and B sides could be played without manually flipping the disc.

Your last point about the pricing was spot-on. Unfortunately, that point is STILL spot-on, because collector pricing has laserdiscs on eBay at their old retail prices and higher in 2018.
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Old 12-19-2018, 07:53 PM   #237
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...Plus, you had to flip the huge disc which looked like a vinyl record halfway through your movie...
Sigh. Only on the early players.

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Old 12-19-2018, 10:34 PM   #238
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Laserdisc was the shizzle back in the day. Sadly, I've sold off most of my collection. I have kept most of my CAV Disney titles and a few DTS titles as well. Just can't part with them.
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Ah, LDs.



Good times. Was always enamored by the clarity of the picture (on CRTs anyway), sound, and covers. Even the logo with the groovy sound effects was pleasant.

Never knew they had auto-flipping players. My folks never bought one, we always had to manually flip. I oughta say something to them...
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Old 12-20-2018, 12:41 AM   #240
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Tonight Im watching Three Fugitives for VHS after Im done watching Blockers for DVD
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