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Old 11-23-2007, 05:20 PM   #1
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My brother-in-law has a Sony 37" 1080i plasma that is about 3 years old and I have a Samsung 40" 1080p LCD. Is there an noticeable difference in the picture of the two sets?

I do have the PS 3 hooked up with the Blu-ray, will the Blu-rays picture show better then the 1080i plasma?

Is 1080i full HD?
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Old 11-23-2007, 05:21 PM   #2
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just gotta use the search button will be a bigger help to everyone.. this has been a BIG topic for a long time
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Old 11-23-2007, 05:27 PM   #3
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1080 is full hd. even though you have a 1080 tv it still doesnt put out 1080. just google it.
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Old 11-23-2007, 09:12 PM   #4
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Got to be clear about what is meant by 1080i - is this the input (interface) or the output (display)? A 3 year-old 37" 1080i SOny plasma will undoubtably NOT have 1080 lines of native resolution. It will probably only have 480 or 720 lines, and 1080i video will be processed and displayed at that native resolution.

A recent 1080p LCD will presumably (model?) support 1080p video at both the input and the display. If that is the case, it will look much sharper with an appropriate source.

What may be more important than all that, though, is the remarkable improvement in performance of ALL flat panel displays during the last few years.

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Old 11-23-2007, 09:59 PM   #5
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The "i" stands for for interlaced, where "p" is for progressive. They are the two ways that electronic images get placed onto the screen.
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Old 11-24-2007, 03:59 AM   #6
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Thanks guys
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Old 11-24-2007, 01:57 PM   #7
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my friend just picked up a PS3 and hooked it up to his 42" panny plasma 1080i and it said it looks amazing. so now i am wondering if it looks amazing on his tv in 1080i, than can you get by with a BD player on a 1080i tv for now and still have a fantastic looking picture?
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Old 11-24-2007, 03:14 PM   #8
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my friend just picked up a PS3 and hooked it up to his 42" panny plasma 1080i and it said it looks amazing. so now i am wondering if it looks amazing on his tv in 1080i, than can you get by with a BD player on a 1080i tv for now and still have a fantastic looking picture?

I'M a newbie to this, but I say your only going to be getting 1080i broadcast and not 1080p.

with that said, what you think looks "amazing" will look really amazing in 1080p.
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Old 11-24-2007, 03:28 PM   #9
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you only need 1080p if you get a tv over 46" if not get a 720P
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Old 11-24-2007, 03:36 PM   #10
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you only need 1080p if you get a tv over 46" if not get a 720P
I have never heard of that, why?
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Old 11-24-2007, 03:38 PM   #11
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I have never heard of that, why?
Viewing distances vs. what you can see. http://s3.carltonbale.com/resolution_chart.html
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Old 11-24-2007, 04:02 PM   #12
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So if I'M reading this right,

a 40" TV is best viewed at 7'

a 46" @ 8'

a 50" @ 9'

a 60" at 10' so on and so on. right?
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Old 11-24-2007, 04:05 PM   #13
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you only need 1080p if you get a tv over 46" if not get a 720P
Personally, if I was going through the trouble of getting a new TV - going to the store, bringing home the box, unpacking and setting it up, I'd have to know I was doing it for the long term. That means 1080p. I wouldn't want to know that, for the same amount of effort on my part, there's something better out there.
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Old 11-24-2007, 04:11 PM   #14
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Personally, if I was going through the trouble of getting a new TV - going to the store, bringing home the box, unpacking and setting it up, I'd have to know I was doing it for the long term. That means 1080p. I wouldn't want to know that, for the same amount of effort on my part, there's something better out there.
ok, but if someone already has a 1080i tv and would like to upgrade to a blu ray player now without buying a new tv in 1080p, would the BD movies look close to or just as good as a if it was on a 1080p tv.

in otherwords, can you get away with watching BD movies on a BD player with a 1080i tv and still be happy with the picture? my opinion would be yes, but i also do realize that you would not be getting the full 1080p out of the movie, thus not as superior. but a large improvment over SD dvd 480i or480p.
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Old 11-24-2007, 04:18 PM   #15
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I know nothing about Bluray players. I do know that 1080i TV's don't have HDMI inputs. I know that Bluray players have HDMI inputs, but do they have DVI out to connect to the 1080i TV? That's what I would look into first.
As for your question, I would think that to the naked eye, it would look very close
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Old 11-24-2007, 04:28 PM   #16
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I know nothing about Bluray players. I do know that 1080i TV's don't have HDMI inputs. I know that Bluray players have HDMI inputs, but do they have DVI out to connect to the 1080i TV? That's what I would look into first.
As for your question, I would think that to the naked eye, it would look very close
yes 1080i tvs do have HDMI inputs, i have one. i have the sony sxrd xbr1 with 2 HDMI inputs on it. my tv will not accept a 1080p signal, but has a native resolution of up to 1080p. so technically it is a 1080i tv. i guess it upconverts the signal to 1080p resolution supposedly.
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Old 11-24-2007, 04:32 PM   #17
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I guess the newer 1080i sets have the HDMI then. The other guys I know with 1080i don't have them on there sets that are 3 years or older.
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Old 11-25-2007, 12:09 AM   #18
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I guess the newer 1080i sets have the HDMI then. The other guys I know with 1080i don't have them on there sets that are 3 years or older.
They might have a DVI connection then they could use a DVI to HDMI cable for the connection. I have a 4 year old Sony Wega LCD which as one and I connect it with one of those.
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Old 11-27-2007, 06:44 PM   #19
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here's the facts about HDTV resolution(if i'm wrong please reply)

first: whatever your native resolution of your tv is that's what it converts everthing to. For instance if you have a flat panel 720p tv and you input 1080i signal, the tv processor will convert it to 720p. It will not display a 1080i picture.
If you have a 1080p tv and you input a 1080i signal(tv/sat) it will scale it to 1080p(fill in the missing resolution)

I have a 34" CRT Sony XBR800 tube tv. The native resolution is 1080i. So if i play a PS3 game in 720p my Sony will convert it to 1080i. I use the component video cables for my PS3. They can only pass up to 1080i but that's all i need. The picture is visual eye candy. It's the best PQ i've ever seen.

BTW, i work part-time at Best Buy and i have yet to see any tv surpass the Sony CRT quality, color, refresh rate, or the blacks playing Blu-ray(or tv).

technically "Full HD" is considered to be 1080p rez on a 1080p tv.
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Old 11-27-2007, 07:37 PM   #20
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here's the facts about HDTV resolution(if i'm wrong please reply)

first: whatever your native resolution of your tv is that's what it converts everthing to. For instance if you have a flat panel 720p tv and you input 1080i signal, the tv processor will convert it to 720p. It will not display a 1080i picture.
If you have a 1080p tv and you input a 1080i signal(tv/sat) it will scale it to 1080p(fill in the missing resolution)

I have a 34" CRT Sony XBR800 tube tv. The native resolution is 1080i. So if i play a PS3 game in 720p my Sony will convert it to 1080i. I use the component video cables for my PS3. They can only pass up to 1080i but that's all i need. The picture is visual eye candy. It's the best PQ i've ever seen.

BTW, i work part-time at Best Buy and i have yet to see any tv surpass the Sony CRT quality, color, refresh rate, or the blacks playing Blu-ray(or tv).

technically "Full HD" is considered to be 1080p rez on a 1080p tv.
I have the same TV and use the same component cable from my PS3. Awesome PQ. This TV is capable of 480i and 1080i native resolutions. It does not do 720p 0r 1080p, but will scale to 1080i.

I also use the DVI connection on the TV with my Directv HR20 DVR, HDMI to DVI cable. Works great.
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