Home Video Sales Thread (HMM weekly/DEG quarterly/Nielsen Top 20/etc.)

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Have you seen how popular labels like Vinegar Syndrome are? They have to shut down their websites to handle shipping and demand sometimes. Also, there is a world outside the USA. On a title by title basis, it will be worth it.

I wasn't referring to 3rd party disc releasing companies. Major studios is what I had in mind.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

I wasn't referring to 3rd party disc releasing companies. Major studios is what I had in mind.

Where do you think some of that content comes from? MGM just did a deal with VS for a good batch of titles for example. They make money from these deals.

Major studios are releasing back catalogue in plentiful numbers because there are meaningful reasons to do so. It’s hard to keep up with all the catalogue releases.

[Lee A Stewart]

https://www.the-numbers.com/weekly-bluray-sales-chart

Please point out the 3rd party subleased titles you are referring to.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

https://www.the-numbers.com/weekly-bluray-sales-chart

Please point out the 3rd party subleased titles you are referring to.

Aside from that list you provided, studios make money from subleasing titles to these labels. You asked where was the motivation? They make money from regular catalogue sales and their more genre targeted titles get leased out. We are seeing that now with MGM and VS.

You carry on your little crusade though, I don’t know what the point is but if it makes you happy?

[johndoyle123]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

https://www.the-numbers.com/weekly-bluray-sales-chart

Please point out the 3rd party subleased titles you are referring to.

Well some catalog stuff is clearly doing ok, otherwise it would be 100%+ down each week and not 20-60%
It’s obvious discs are driven mostly by new releases but there still hitting millions a week being driven by what’s essentially just catalog and I can imagine studios are more than happy with that considering there loss of theatre revenue currently


In theory once films start to hit disc again wouldn’t we see figures be up most of next year ?

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by johndoyle123

Well some catalog stuff is clearly doing ok, otherwise it would be 100%+ down each week and not 20-60%
It’s obvious discs are driven mostly by new releases but there still hitting millions a week being driven by what’s essentially just catalog and I can imagine studios are more than happy with that considering there loss of theatre revenue currently


In theory once films start to hit disc again wouldn’t we see figures be up most of next year ?

Yes. Stats will be compared to 2020. It depends on when the vaccine is administered. Normalcy may not return until late Q2 or early Q3 2021.

With all the new cancelations of first run movies, I have little faith in Q4 2020 being anything to write home about.

[gkolb]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

https://www.the-numbers.com/weekly-bluray-sales-chart

Please point out the 3rd party subleased titles you are referring to.

Question in passing, are the HD and 4K combined for units & $ in this chart?

My hunch is yes? Then when 4K are reported separately they would obvs be pulled out for that tally.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by gkolb

Question in passing, are the HD and 4K combined for units & $ in this chart?

My hunch is yes? Then when 4K are reported separately they would obvs be pulled out for that tally.

Yes to both. Notice Pitch Black. That is a 4K release.

[Lee A Stewart]

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

[Lee A Stewart]

physical media numbers for Q3:

7/4 – disc sales down 20.66% from the same week in 2019
7/11 – disc sales down 10.96%
7/18 – disc sales down 35.01%
7/25 – disc sales down 23.09%
8/1 – disc sales down 17.53%
8/8 – disc sales down 27.13%
8/15 – disc sales down 61.82%
8/22 – disc sales down 36.29%
8/29 – disc sales down 44.43%
9/5 – disc sales down 34.33%
9/12 - disc sales down 50.56%
9/19 - disc sales down 36.13% (397.94)

So far Q3 is down an average of 33.16%. One more week left till the end of the quarter.

[jurid]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Interesting trend: BD sales are falling faster than DVD's... BD's share is declining...

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by jurid

Interesting trend: BD sales are falling faster than DVD's... BD's share is declining...

No surprise. BD depends on new movie content more so then DVD for most of it's sales. No new movies = low BD sales.

[jurid]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

No surprise. BD depends on new movie content more so then DVD for most of it's sales. No new movies = low BD sales.

Maybe also economics... less disposable income lowers overall demand, shifts purchases to cheaper DVDs.

[Lee A Stewart]

[jurid]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Ay yai yai... From bad to worse

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

[Lee A Stewart]

7/4 – disc sales down 20.66% from the same week in 2019
7/11 – disc sales down 10.96%
7/18 – disc sales down 35.01%
7/25 – disc sales down 23.09%
8/1 – disc sales down 17.53%
8/8 – disc sales down 27.13%
8/15 – disc sales down 61.82%
8/22 – disc sales down 36.29%
8/29 – disc sales down 44.43%
9/5 – disc sales down 34.33%
9/12 - disc sales down 50.56%
9/19 - disc sales down 36.13%
9/26 - disc sales down 34.71%

That finishes Q3 for an average of 33.28% down.

Q1 - down 22.43%*
Q2 - down 11.11%*
Q3 - down 33.28%**

YTD Average - 22.27% down

*Numbers taken from the DEG Q1 and Q2 reports

** Numbers taken from the Media Play News Weekly Revenue Report

[Lee A Stewart]

[gkolb]

Should we start making book on when DVD hits 75 or 80 percent? :grim look: