Any rumors about Buffy the Vampire Slayer show coming out on Blu-ray?

[EddieLarkin]

Originally Posted by blahsi

As for Buffy and Angel, I hardly noticed the framing errors so the widescreen versions didn't bug me.

In SD. A stray boom or crew member are going to be a lot more noticeable the better this HD upgrade is.

[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by lava_lander

as long as this gets corrected, i'll be happy.

Originally Posted by 88thcrazy

i'd settle for a standalone blu of this!

Originally Posted by eddielarkin

it was anamorphic on the uk dvd. The one upside to those sets.

Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Once More, With Feeling DVD

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[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

So what will Fox do? Separate 4:3 and 16:9 Blu-rays like the DVDs? I don't think that'll happen for the reason of simple economics: unlike the days of PAL and NTSC which necessitated separate releases by default, Blu-ray's 24fps standard has meant that studios can produce one disc to suit entire continents, if not the world, so I think there'll only be one SKU.

Talking about that, weren't some Buffy SFXs made/edited in video 30/60? I think I remember the live look for some of them.

[stvn1974]

These are going to be as amazing as my X-Files Seasons 1-9 on blu-ray that I have that were also done by FOX.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

Talking about that, weren't some Buffy SFXs made/edited in video 30/60? I think I remember the live look for some of them.

I remember when Sky started showing new episodes nearer to the US airdate they were very poorly standards-converted from the NTSC original (instead of being IVTC'd and then converted to a proper 25fps source), but that's not a problem with the DVDs, natch.

[blahsi]

Originally Posted by EddieLarkin

In SD. A stray boom or crew member are going to be a lot more noticeable the better this HD upgrade is.

True. That's why I'm hoping they'll reframe so those aren't as apparent. I doubt they'll do any digital editing, so that's the best we can hope for at this point.

[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I remember when Sky started showing new episodes nearer to the US airdate they were very poorly standards-converted from the NTSC original (instead of being IVTC'd and then converted to a proper 25fps source), but that's not a problem with the DVDs, natch.

Well the 30/60 SFXs would have to be "converted" from 30/60 frame rate to 24 or totally redone for 24P just like any 30/60 SFX. The US DVDs were 60i.

[Geoff D]

I'm sure they'll correct that stuff, in any case. The shows that I've seen with upscaled SD VFX (like Twin Peaks) don't have any deinterlacing errors or anything like that.

[willbfree]

Originally Posted by Buffdale

The more I look at this comparisons, the more I see DNR

Cable always ends up looking dnr'd. Doesn't mean the remastered episodes were dnr'd.

[Panemlights]

I'm really looking forward to Tuesday. It would be great if someone here could record the episodes and post screencaps along with a few clips including the opening titles to give a feel for what it's like.

[Nico Darko]

So does anyone know what was the advantage of shooting in widescreen (while framing for 4:3) ? there must have been a reason, was it something to do with editing ? why did they bother to edit the special effects in widescreen ?

Here, I just found this "behind the scenes" picture. You can clearly see the 4:3 protected area (and the overscan protected area, for tv screens). But why do you have a widescreen area if you don't plan to protect it ??






Angel (S3-5) on the other hand, was obviously only protected for widescreen :

[PenguinMaster]

While using open-matte for 4:3 material on Blu-ray is common, cropping isn't.

Therefore if released on Blu-ray seasons 1-3 would have to be 4:3 as they weren't filmed in widescreen and I think that there is a good chance seasons 4-7 would also be 4:3 for consistency.

[theprestige85]

Originally Posted by Panemlights

I'm really looking forward to Tuesday. It would be great if someone here could record the episodes and post screencaps along with a few clips including the opening titles to give a feel for what it's like.

Yeah, that would be great. If they are starting with season 7, it should look boss as that was the last season. Hopefully the DNR is kept to a minimum, too.

[Nico Darko]

Apparently they'll start airing the show in HD with the 5 first episodes (August 26th), which makes sense. Then we'll get eps 1x06 to 1x10 the following Tuesday (August 2nd), and so on (I'm guessing), 5 eps each week, that's pretty good.

Does anyone here has Pivot and could tell us if the picture was cropped in SD ? that would give us a clue on how they plan to air the HD.

[theprestige85]

Originally Posted by Nico Darko

Apparently they'll start airing the show in HD with the 5 first episodes (August 26th), which makes sense. Then we'll get eps 1x06 to 1x10 the following Tuesday (August 2nd), and so on (I'm guessing), 5 eps each week, that's pretty good.

Does anyone here has Pivot and could tell us if the picture was cropped in SD ? that would give us a clue on how they plan to air the HD.

Really? Thought they were starting with season 7 for some reason, though it does make sense to start from the beginning. Season 1 should see an upgrade, but seasons 3 and onwards is where the show should look 'all shiny and new'

[Buffdale]

Originally Posted by willbfree

Cable always ends up looking dnr'd. Doesn't mean the remastered episodes were dnr'd.

Thank you, you reassure me !

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Nico Darko

So does anyone know what was the advantage of shooting in widescreen (while framing for 4:3) ? there must have been a reason, was it something to do with editing ? why did they bother to edit the special effects in widescreen ?

It's a bit of everything. You've got to bear in mind that you rarely see the entire frame as originally exposed, whether it's on film, digital, flat, anamorphic, whatever. This is so that the filmmakers give themselves some leeway regarding the framing, taking into account stuff like visible splice marks on anamorphic or techniscope movies, or the overscan that was endemic to CRT technology for TV.

A lot of TV shows switched to that 3-perf Super 35 format (used on Buffy S3 onwards and on Angel until they went digital, and plenty more shows besides) because it allowed them to use a larger negative area than Academy whilst saving on film stock, AND they could also take advantage of the various framing options to frame for 4:3 whilst protecting for 16:9, thereby future proofing themselves.

It's obvious from the various goofs that not a great deal of attention was paid to protecting that 16:9 area, but in Buffy's case Fox went ahead and created 16:9 versions for overseas broadcast anyway, something which Joss Whedon did NOT sanction.

[NL197]

There are very few examples of the visual effects not reaching the outer edges of the 16:9 framing, and all those examples are on Buffy. There's a scene in the season 4 finale which shows a pan through Xander's ice cream truck and the outside windows lose the background on the edges as it pans, instead revealing the green screen. Also the actor names during the opening credits of every season don't extend beyond the 4:3 area. You can see they are literally cut off as they appear from the outer edge of the 4:3 area to the center of the screen.

[mredman]

i really really hope Buffy and Angel are getting a blu ray release. But i do not think it will happen. X-Files hasn't come out either after the remastered tv versions in HD.

I hope they see this thread and see how many want Buffy,Angel,X-Files on blu ray

[seannyd]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

It's a bit of everything. You've got to bear in mind that you rarely see the entire frame as originally exposed, whether it's on film, digital, flat, anamorphic, whatever. This is so that the filmmakers give themselves some leeway regarding the framing, taking into account stuff like visible splice marks on anamorphic or techniscope movies, or the overscan that was endemic to CRT technology for TV.

A lot of TV shows switched to that 3-perf Super 35 format (used on Buffy S3 onwards and on Angel until they went digital, and plenty more shows besides) because it allowed them to use a larger negative area than Academy whilst saving on film stock, AND they could also take advantage of the various framing options to frame for 4:3 whilst protecting for 16:9, thereby future proofing themselves.

It's obvious from the various goofs that not a great deal of attention was paid to protecting that 16:9 area, but in Buffy's case Fox went ahead and created 16:9 versions for overseas broadcast anyway, something which Joss Whedon did NOT sanction.

I don't think he sanctioned it but I'm pretty sure he understood they were going to do it from the moment he started filming to make Fox happy. At least, that's the impression I got from the biographer in his book that was released a couple weeks back.