Any rumors about Buffy the Vampire Slayer show coming out on Blu-ray?

[slainery]

Originally Posted by lstar337

I doubt it. More likely your eyes are being fooled by the film grain giving the illusion of greater detail.

While I don't believe these HD shots are of great quality, they do contain a lot more detail than the DVD's ever did.

IKR? Those people are so bitter they've actually become delusional.

[Adoken]

Originally Posted by slainery

IKR? Those people are so bitter they've actually become delusional.

LOL, I've gotta agree with that one.

[Buffdale]

Originally Posted by BGfan2

does anybody know how or where i can get season 1 in 1080i without paying? because that upload files are only available if you are a premium member..

i'm even thinking in doing a commun Dropbox page where we can share them every week

thank you anyway!

No sorry. But I love your idea .

Originally Posted by #Darren

There is DEFINITELY more detail in the DVD caps. HD my ass...

Exactly. Just look at this screenshot. On the DVD, the patterns on Xander's shirt are much clearer. This should be the opposite. Especially since the HD is zoomed.

[theprestige85]

Those pivot shots are looking worse and worse...how the hell does FOX get EVERYTHING wrong with a high definition transfer? Seriously? Everything that can go wrong with a HD showing has gone wrong with Buffy. Wtf???

[cris555]

Hi All,

can i just explain something about the screen caps you are taking of the new 'HD' remasters.

The broadcast stream from Pivot is heavily compressed and is far from the quality of a 1080p Blu-Ray. This does not mean that the remaster is bad or that they are doing a poor job. The transmission of the content has just been compressed to get to the televisions at home.

Moreso, most of the screenshots being posted on this page have been compressed AGAIN, as they have been taken from low quality downloads or recordings from streaming websites, which have very low bitrate (low quality) codecs. This is why it look like there is not much detail. Everything is being compressed and images are losing even more detail. By the time these images reach this forum they have lost a 2-3x the detail of the original remaster by fox.

It is more than likely that there is a beautiful wealth of detail and fine film grain in the FULL HD remaster that is taking place, which means that when this hits Blu Ray, we are going to see an awesome film quality product.

As for the colour differences, the crop etc etc, thats all fox, and yes, it sucks. alot.

I hope those that are complaining that the HD looks less detailed than the DVD understand this, because its simply not true.

(I do this all for a living btw, I'm not just making this up)

I know i speak for everyone here (well, maybe not everyone...) when i say I'm pretty excited for this Blu release!

[chip75]

Originally Posted by cris555

I hope those that are complaining that the HD looks less detailed than the DVD understand this, because its simply not true.

The broadcast vs. HD master comparisons (and image compression) have been mentioned before but I think people are comparing the Buffy captures to The X-Files captures which have looked generally good to superb (and will look better on Blu-ray as they've gone on a similar journey as the Buffy captures). Even if Pivot isn't the greatest of HD providers the Buffy captures look quite poor and that's taken into account after-the-fact channel and image compression.

I know it's not fair to compare to shows (with different budgets for production and re-mastering) but I've yet to see anything from Buffy the Vampire Slayer that blows me away like The X-Files captures have. So while I'll agree with you we should put things into perspective I'd say there's very little to show that Buffy HD incarnation is a huge leap from it's SD variant. I fear something is amiss during Buffy's journey to HD either it's been done very poorly and/or they've had inferior material to work from.

[Drewbee87]

Originally Posted by Buffdale

Maybe it's too dark on the DVD. I think it's supposed to be a little clearer. Between the HD and DVD version. But... I miss this blue tint ! More frightening and more into the atmosphere generated by the series.

How's this?

[Buffdale]

Originally Posted by cris555

Hi All,

can i just explain something about the screen caps you are taking of the new 'HD' remasters.

The broadcast stream from Pivot is heavily compressed and is far from the quality of a 1080p Blu-Ray. This does not mean that the remaster is bad or that they are doing a poor job. The transmission of the content has just been compressed to get to the televisions at home.

Moreso, most of the screenshots being posted on this page have been compressed AGAIN, as they have been taken from low quality downloads or recordings from streaming websites, which have very low bitrate (low quality) codecs. This is why it look like there is not much detail. Everything is being compressed and images are losing even more detail. By the time these images reach this forum they have lost a 2-3x the detail of the original remaster by fox.

It is more than likely that there is a beautiful wealth of detail and fine film grain in the FULL HD remaster that is taking place, which means that when this hits Blu Ray, we are going to see an awesome film quality product.

As for the colour differences, the crop etc etc, thats all fox, and yes, it sucks. alot.

I hope those that are complaining that the HD looks less detailed than the DVD understand this, because its simply not true.

(I do this all for a living btw, I'm not just making this up)

I know i speak for everyone here (well, maybe not everyone...) when i say I'm pretty excited for this Blu release!

Thank you for giving of your time to participate in the conversation. It's very interesting . Of course, we are all aware that what is broadcast by Pivot is compressed. But as Chip74 said, compared to X-Files it's day and night. Again, we know that the first two seasons were filmed in 16mm unlike X-Files. But still. The difference is sooo enormous ! I am totally stunned by the remastering of X-Files. So we can't say that I'm crazy (or whatever ). When I watch Pivot's programs (HD or SD), the quality seems much higher than the remastering of Buffy. It's really strange. And as you said, some defects aren't from Pivot but from Fox itself. What assured us that the difference between the "real" HD and the HD broadcast by Pivot will be that huge ?

Originally Posted by Drewbee87

How's this?

I think it's wonderful ! As the scene takes place on the day, I thought the DVD version was too dark. But now I love it. Once again: I miss the blue tint.

[Drewbee87]

Another one:

[Buffdale]

Originally Posted by Drewbee87

Another one:

God. It seems perfect to me. Again.

[tomantha]

Originally Posted by Drewbee87

Another one:

This is perfect !

[theprestige85]

Originally Posted by Drewbee87

Another one:

I've said it before and i'll say it again - FOX need to hire you. Like, right now.

[Drewbee87]

I'm hoping I can do as good in a video editor. lol I have Adobe Premiere, so I'm hoping I can get the actual 1080i episodes instead of just captures to work with.

[willbfree]

Originally Posted by Drewbee87

Another one:

The top one is perfect. The bottom one looks like the too-dark DVDs.

[Drewbee87]

I may have made it a little too dark, but it's not as bad as the DVD:

[bloomyself]

Originally Posted by theprestige85

I've said it before and i'll say it again - FOX need to hire you. Like, right now.

Ditto. I wish there were some way to get these to them, so they can see how a proper remaster ought to look like :/

[bloomyself]

Originally Posted by cris555

Hi All,

can i just explain something about the screen caps you are taking of the new 'HD' remasters.

The broadcast stream from Pivot is heavily compressed and is far from the quality of a 1080p Blu-Ray. This does not mean that the remaster is bad or that they are doing a poor job. The transmission of the content has just been compressed to get to the televisions at home.

Moreso, most of the screenshots being posted on this page have been compressed AGAIN, as they have been taken from low quality downloads or recordings from streaming websites, which have very low bitrate (low quality) codecs. This is why it look like there is not much detail. Everything is being compressed and images are losing even more detail. By the time these images reach this forum they have lost a 2-3x the detail of the original remaster by fox.

It is more than likely that there is a beautiful wealth of detail and fine film grain in the FULL HD remaster that is taking place, which means that when this hits Blu Ray, we are going to see an awesome film quality product.

As for the colour differences, the crop etc etc, thats all fox, and yes, it sucks. alot.

I hope those that are complaining that the HD looks less detailed than the DVD understand this, because its simply not true.

(I do this all for a living btw, I'm not just making this up)

I know i speak for everyone here (well, maybe not everyone...) when i say I'm pretty excited for this Blu release!

I totally get that what we are seeing on Pivot may not be representative of what we will see on an eventual Blu-Ray release. I am definitely optimistic that the resolution will be a lot better without Pivot's compression and that we will hopefully be seeing a lot less DNR.

However, the things that I (and most people here) are taking issue with are things that won't change much. My main gripe has always been the too light coloring, and lack of respect for certain scenes that are supposed to look darker or even straight up have a filter on it. And of course, the blasphemous dusting effects where its obvious they didn't even try to match the previous effects.

These are things that unfortunately will look exactly the same on a blu-ray release. And it just sucks because these are things that could easily be fixed had they just consulted people who actually worked on the show and took care of these things in the first place.

[Drewbee87]

I guess I'll just keep doing these in Photoshop until I get the 1080i videos. lol



Could someone post some 1080 caps from The Masters Layer from "Prophecy Girl"? Preferably ones from the scene where he's taunting Buffy, and the Goof of him being in the frame? I want to see if I can do something about that...

[ChrisOz]

I think it's hilarious you guys think that adding grain to a DNRed image somehow improves the quality. Under that grain is still a DNRed image…you aren't adding definition.

[Drewbee87]

Thanks captain obvious!