Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I would t be surprised if Vudu just becomes a ad-supported part of Comcast’s new streaming service (Peacock) eventually.

Vudu certainly seems to be headed to a AVOD service. With the sale of Vudu Walmart will be completely out of the streaming business (audio and video). I figured something was up when I first saw their new, big, disc displays.

This is the part some should pay attention to:

This email is a Vudu service message.
Please note that all product prices and availability are subject to change.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Reviewing the T&C because someone once said there was a provision in there that purchased content would be available for a minimum of 3 years it seems that is no longer mentioned.

Most of those TOS/EULA's state that the TOS may change in part or in whole at any time and without notice. And one of the best clauses: By using this service you agree to NOT sue or litigate against XYZ.

[bhampton]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Most of those TOS/EULA's state that the TOS may change in part or in whole at any time and without notice. And one of the best clauses: By using this service you agree to NOT sue or litigate against XYZ.

I saw that near the top. If you use the service you can't class action sue the service type of thing... nice.

Many of my posts about Vudu/Fandago vanished... Someone posted that I was a liar... don't remember lying but whatever. Maybe they will ban me or something I try to be helpful and honest.

I don't actually care at all about Vudu other than I'm interested in how it's sale changes things in general.

-Brian

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Most of those TOS/EULA's state that the TOS may change in part or in whole at any time and without notice. And one of the best clauses: By using this service you agree to NOT sue or litigate against XYZ.

Basically, bend over let us do what we like and don't complain if we won’t pull your pants up afterwards.

[flyry]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Awesome you know the future! Can you PM me with information about how the Covid stuff shakes out?

No doubt if I sold something the new owners would just own it and not change anything about it. That does sound right.

The press release says nothing will change and that's likely just truth and stuff.

-Brian

Originally Posted by Steedeel

For now...........

Nobody lost any movies when UV closed as much as you were praying for it.

Read the TOC all you want, its not going to happen.

and it's common sense that they would not keep 2 redundant services. one of the initial announcements in the trades spoke to a merge.

They would be wise to keep the platform with the superior technology and greater user base. Not sure if they would rename it FN or not , but i am confident VUDU will be the survivor in some sense.

[bhampton]

Actually,

I'm just interested and I wouldn't take joy in seeing anyone lose something. I hope for the best.

I was tricked. I thought buying things at iTunes meant I owned those things. I didn't realize until some of my movies were not accessible and refund was not an option either.

People must see how assets like Friends or the The Office bounce around and wind up exclusive here or there for a period of time. If you like to know what's leaving soon because rights got re-nogotiated there's usually a category for that in Netflix or whatever. If HBO needs GOT to go back to being exclusive they just take it off the Vudu, Amazon, iTunes, server which they have every right to do because they own it.

May never ever be an issue for anyone though. I do hope for the best.

I can't own my online movies though so I don't buy them. With that said I guess I don't need to even be interested in what happens with Vudu. And, I'm sure whatever happens will take months at least.


-Brian

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by flyry

Nobody lost any movies when UV closed as much as you were praying for it.

Read the TOC all you want, its not going to happen.

and it's common sense that they would not keep 2 redundant services. one of the initial announcements in the trades spoke to a merge.

They would be wise to keep the platform with the superior technology and greater user base. Not sure if they would rename it FN or not , but i am confident VUDU will be the survivor in some sense.

They actually did lose movies. There were hundreds of people who lost several movies when trying to convert from UV to Google Play. Granted, this was the U.K. but there is a world outside the states.

[sapiendut]

Here are 10 movies I recommend watching during this boring time for both streamers and physical media users alike.

https://www.wifihifi.ca/LatestNewsHe...Isolation.html

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Granted, this was the U.K. but there is a world outside the states.

Sadly, most people do not think outside their own little box. In the US many who live in the city and large metros believe everyone is connected and has very high speed internet like they do. Apparently they never travel the country side and see how that greatest commodity of all, food, comes from. They need to use Google earth to see we are made up of more than asphalt jungles.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

They actually did lose movies. There were hundreds of people who lost several movies when trying to convert from UV to Google Play. Granted, this was the U.K. but there is a world outside the states.

Looking at Reddit. Seems some codes redeemed through Flixster we’re lost during UV shutting down and porting WB shows as a example. There is also the weakness of streaming that you don’t have TV shows owned by digital codes that can be accessed on multiple digital content providers such as Fandango, Vudu, ITunes. It been discussed but not covered.
Horror films was also a problem because studios not shared by MA agreement are localized to one digital content provider. UV closing had people saying they lost some horror movies when switching.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Sadly, most people do not think outside their own little box. In the US many who live in the city and large metros believe everyone is connected and has very high speed internet like they do. Apparently they never travel the country side and see how that greatest commodity of all, food, comes from. They need to use Google earth to see we are made up of more than asphalt jungles.

Too true.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

Looking at Reddit. Seems some codes redeemed through Flixster we’re lost during UV shutting down and porting WB shows as a example. There is also the weakness of streaming that you don’t have TV shows owned by digital codes that can be accessed on multiple digital content providers such as Fandango, Vudu, ITunes. It been discussed but not covered.
Horror films was also a problem because studios not shared by MA agreement are localized to one digital content provider. UV closing had people saying they lost some movies when switching.

Absolutely. It was well documented. I’m sure Flyry will point out we don't have Movies anywhere but that’s hardly the fault of the customers.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

Here are 10 movies I recommend watching during this boring time for both streamers and physical media users alike.

https://www.wifihifi.ca/LatestNewsHe...Isolation.html

So you reckon The Hunt is worth a blind buy?

[sapiendut]

To me, yes

[bhampton]

I watched most of those on the 10 recommended list that were on Shudder.

(They changed the one week trail to a month trial using the code Shuttin which may no longer be a thing)

Velocipastor was funny. I wasn't able to get on with Tammy and the T Rex but I was glad to see it anyway because now I know not to get it on impulse unless it's like $0.26 -ish.

-Brian

[avs commenter]

AVR becomes outdated all the time which IMO is a big reason the majority of people don’t have or keep an up to date sound system

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by avs commenter

AVR becomes outdated all the time which IMO is a big reason the majority of people don’t have or keep an up to date sound system

Look unless you have to play Dolby Atmos/DTS:X, older TrueHD and DTS HD MA AVRs are quite adequate and likely to better performing as long as they got a good room equalization. Even if you got a older Dolby Atmos AVR and it doesn't pass 4K with seeing onscreen volume that is nothing to cry about. A lot of AVR improvements are nothing special. IMAX Enhanced as a example LMAO.

If there is one thing that is true is most people that claim AVR's go obsolete quickly are not into audio at all. Audio needs to be paramount (amp performance, DSP Room processing), not the rest of the extra streaming features, or in display info. The same goes for trying to have a 13.1 AVR that can't drive all channels to rated spec.

[Ender14]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

So you reckon The Hunt is worth a blind buy?

I second that. Last movie I saw in theaters before they closed and well worth the trip. Much better than the trailers would lead you to believe.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by avs commenter

The general audience does not have the equipment to hear a difference in sound.

Originally Posted by avs commenter

A dedicated audio setup is really not practical in most households.

Guess you missed:

The statistic shows the household penetration of home theater systems/surround sound systems in the United States from 2012 to 2016. In July 2016, 41 percent of U.S. households owned a home theater system/surround.

Originally Posted by avs commenter

AVR becomes outdated all the time which IMO is a big reason the majority of people don’t have or keep an up to date sound system

AVR's capable of decoding multi-channel lossless audio from disc have been available for quite sometime. They are not outdated unless one wants immersive audio. AVR's capable of decoding immersive lossless audio from disc have been available for several years now.

[JohnAV]

Speaking of streaming content recommendations (not in theaters) Netflix's Extraction is available to watch today

Tyler Rake (Chris Hemsworth) is a fearless black market mercenary who embarks on the deadliest mission of his career when he’s enlisted to rescue the kidnapped son of an international crime lord. Directed by Sam Hargrave, this action-packed, edge-of-your-seat thriller is produced by Joe and Anthony Russo, the visionary directors of Avengers: Endgame.