Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I only referenced those categories that you actually spend money upon: movies, TV series, music, and video games.

You have rationalized away supporting physical media in all but one of those four categories. It's only a matter of time before you do the same with movies as you have with the other three.

Where did the vast, vast majority of my digital movies come from? They came from the digital code sheets found where again? Why inside of physical media purchases, Einstein!

Who watches my digital collection 99% of the time? My family and my friends, many of whom live in other states. Most of the digital copies that I do buy are for their enjoyment, not mine. I started doing this when the pandemic had everyone living like hermits in their own home.

I buy movies, TV shows, and music almost entirely on physical media. I seldom buy video games at all; what I do have were mostly given to me as gifts because the pleasure of my company is so highly sought after when playing.

It is gaming night tonight, in fact!

You literally posted that you bought The Black Phone on Vudu.

I believe this habit will only increase. As will the poorly justified excuses

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

You literally posted that you bought The Black Phone on Vudu.

I believe this habit will only increase. As will the poorly justified excuses

I have watched about 4 of my digital movies this year. The Black Phone was one of them and it is but one movie out of 1160 digital titles. I seldom use my digital collection at all while I watch a disc or two nearly every night.

As I already told you, my blind buying this digitally at a bargain price allowed me to try it at little risk and to share it with my family and friends. Because I liked this movie I will buy it on disc; I'm just going to wait a bit to see if it gets a 4K disc release before doing so.

Had I used cable TV pay per view to try this movie first, you would not have given me any grief at all. It just bugs you if anyone besides yourself uses digital content.

[cheez avenger]

I saw Black Phone in theaters. Then I watched it at home via Peacock in HD/5.1. I will forgo buying the BD, which is more expensive, and go with it in 4K/DV/Atmos via digital. It's all about cost and leverage for me. I know I've mentioned it before.


I just binged the Cyberpunk 2077: Edgerunners anime via Netlfix. It was great and a terrific compliment to the video. It's in HD / Dolby Vision / 5.1. This series would have been even better in full 4K DV/Atmos. Still, if you're a fan of actual Japanese anime and the game, you will love the series.

[gotmule]

Has anyone ever watched the series Halo? It has a 4K release announced and looks intriguing.

[unberechenbar]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Liked it well enough for a Netflix rental but not well enough for repeat viewing.

Have Where the Crawdads Sing in my queue, in my young years was in the areas (Madisonville & Mandeville, LA) where the movie was shot. A very different terrain.

Watched it in theaters and liked it a lot. Wish it had gotten a UHD release.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by unberechenbar

Watched it in theaters and liked it a lot. Wish it had gotten a UHD release.

It may yet. The studios love to trick us into double dipping.

[unberechenbar]

Originally Posted by Vilya

It may yet. The studios love to trick us into double dipping.

Hopefully it doesn't take too long.

[JWjr]

Does anyone know if there's forum/link that explains all the physical media acronyms/abbreviations - such as OOP = out of print. Thank you!

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by JWjr

Does anyone know if there's forum/link that explains all the physical media acronyms/abbreviations - such as OOP = out of print. Thank you!

Not that I am aware of; many of the abbreviations tossed around here are just shorthand for movies with long titles like OUATIH is Once Upon A Time In Hollywood.

A quick google search will often explain abbreviations that are technical terms like MaxCLL (Maximum Content Light Level) and MaxFALL (Maximum Frame Average Light Level). Or just ask someone in the thread where you encounter them.

[JWjr]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Not that I am aware of; many of the abbreviations tossed around here are just shorthand for movies with long titles like OUATIH is Once Upon A Time In Hollywood.

A quick google search will often explain abbreviations that are technical terms like MaxCLL (Maximum Content Light Level) and MaxFALL (Maximum Frame Average Light Level). Or just ask someone in the thread where you encounter them.

I tried searching web, no luck. I had a print out awhile ago, can't find it. Needing for OC Box Sets / Specialty FS, SL, DL special/limited editions I own.

Thanks for reply!

[cheez avenger]

Originally Posted by gotmule

Has anyone ever watched the series Halo? It has a 4K release announced and looks intriguing.

I loved it. Watched it in 4K/DV / Atmos on P+.

I will definitely be getting the 4K disc. I saw today that they have started filming season 2, so I assume we'll have it in 2023 at some point.

If this sells well I hope Paramount releases The Offer on 4K disc, as well.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I have watched about 4 of my digital movies this year. The Black Phone was one of them and it is but one movie out of 1160 digital titles. I seldom use my digital collection at all while I watch a disc or two nearly every night.

As I already told you, my blind buying this digitally at a bargain price allowed me to try it at little risk and to share it with my family and friends. Because I liked this movie I will buy it on disc; I'm just going to wait a bit to see if it gets a 4K disc release before doing so.

Had I used cable TV pay per view to try this movie first, you would not have given me any grief at all. It just bugs you if anyone besides yourself uses digital content.

I’m so pleased you are back to your feisty replies!

[bhampton]

Originally Posted by unberechenbar

Watched it in theaters and liked it a lot. Wish it had gotten a UHD release.

In a case like this I buy the Blu.

If they do release the UHD BD that's a win.

If they don't release the UHD BD then I have the Blu.

[gotmule]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

I loved it. Watched it in 4K/DV / Atmos on P+.

I will definitely be getting the 4K disc. I saw today that they have started filming season 2, so I assume we'll have it in 2023 at some point.

If this sells well I hope Paramount releases The Offer on 4K disc, as well.

I like a lot of what Pablo is in. Debating on the Steelbook or 4K at the moment.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

True film fans buy blind and buy best.

We are in the try before you buy group. Our viewing is several thousand titles but our purchase to date is 745 BD/UHD BD titles . That number is not related to finances but directly to PFRV (potential for repeat viewing). Watched a lot of really good movies and TV but most had a PFRV = 0. Watching 1883, House of the Dragon and The Rings of Power, have not decided on purchase these. Just finished Black Phone, liked it but PFRV = 0.

Recent purchases include Doctor Strange In The Multiverse Of Madness, The Northman, Memory and others because they have PFRV ≥ 1.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

We are in the try before you buy group. Our viewing is several thousand titles but our purchase to date is 745 BD/UHD BD titles . That number is not related to finances but directly to PFRV (potential for repeat viewing). Watched a lot of really good movies and TV but most had a PFRV = 0. Watching 1883, House of the Dragon and The Rings of Power, have not decided on purchase these. Just finished Black Phone, liked it but PFRV = 0.

Recent purchases include Doctor Strange In The Multiverse Of Madness, The Northman, Memory and others because they have PFRV ≥ 1.

I was only having him on, but I do blind buy every time. Very decent track record of keepers as well. I would say I end up keeping at least 90% of my purchases.

[Vilya]

I blind buy a lot of my movies on disc IF I am fairly confident that I will like the movie being considered. If I am unsure about a movie, but still curious, I will find a way to see it before I commit to a disc purchase. Sometimes, albeit rarely, even a good movie or TV show has no replay value for me.

You have to remember that I do not think of my occasional digital expenditures as actual purchases like I would with a disc. I see all of my digital acquisitions as long term rentals. I only ever pay sale or bargain basement prices for digital titles whereas I will often pay release day prices for a title on disc.

Digital is just how I "rent" a movie now. It replaces the all but extinct brick and mortar rental store and the pay per view cable TV option. Likewise, I see subscription streaming as my replacement for all forms of pay TV service. Neither of these have any chance of ever supplanting my disc library as my far and away preferred choice.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I blind buy a lot of my movies on disc IF I am fairly confident that I will like the movie being considered. If I am unsure about a movie, but still curious, I will find a way to see it before I commit to a disc purchase. Sometimes, albeit rarely, even a good movie or TV show has no replay value for me.

You have to remember that I do not think of my occasional digital expenditures as actual purchases like I would with a disc. I see all of my digital acquisitions as long term rentals. I only ever pay sale or bargain basement prices for digital titles whereas I will often pay release day prices for a title on disc.

Digital is just how I "rent" a movie now. It replaces the all but extinct brick and mortar rental store and the pay per view cable TV option. Likewise, I see subscription streaming as my replacement for all forms of pay TV service. Neither of these have any chance of ever supplanting my disc library as my far and away preferred choice.

I knew that.

[Ender14]

Originally Posted by gotmule

Has anyone ever watched the series Halo? It has a 4K release announced and looks intriguing.

I watched it. I thought it was good, not great. There are some side stories that are unnecessary and feel like padding, but everything with Master Chief and the Spartans was well worth watching. If you've played the games you'll enjoy a lot of the nods to them. Not sure I'll buy it yet though. May wait to see how the second season fares.

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

That number is not related to finances but directly to PFRV (potential for repeat viewing).

This is one area where I agree with Wendell, if I'm going to add it to My Collection it has to pass the viewing at least twice for me. Then it depends on the price, $10 is almost a given and $20-25 has to be a must have...$30 and above is too Much!