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Old 10-17-2022, 09:16 AM   #39121
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Interesting how some is willing to show their ignorance . 9 UHD BD players here. Then we have Reavon, may not be a Oppo but if in the market I would look more closely at their players.
I noticed in my local AV store that they had the Reavon UBR-X100 player for £799.

https://www.spatialonline.co.uk/coll...blu-ray-player

I'm currently using Sony's (I recently bought another UBP X-800M2) at Spatial's and judging by the price, I suspect the Reavon's are superior. It's certainly a beautiful looking machine with a performance to match, I dare say. They also advertise the Reavon X200, but they were waiting for stock to come in the last time I was there - I've no idea how much that one costs.


Edit: I've only just noticed that Steedeel has been banned.

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Edit: I've only just noticed that Steedeel has been banned.
Hopefully not permanently. I've been thinking of buying a second Sony player as a backup too.
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Old 10-17-2022, 10:22 AM   #39123
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Hopefully not permanently. I've been thinking of buying a second Sony player as a backup too.
Bet it's temporary.

Looks like his most recent postings were in the Halloween Ends thread where I don't want to investigate due to spoilers.
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Old 10-17-2022, 11:49 AM   #39124
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BJ's Wholesale Club On the disc server notion.....

Penquininfinity has mentioned from time to time that optical discs outlast hard drives and even suggested buying discs is cheaper than making files. Having done both for a long time, I completely see his point of view.

My 40TB server started glitching so I shut it down.

BackBlaze does hard drive longevity research and says this ....

Generally speaking, you can rely on your hard drive for three to five years on average. A compelling study that proved this statistic comes from the online backup company Backblaze who analyzed the failure rates of 25,000 running hard drives. They found that 90% of hard drives survive for three years and 80% for four years. But this number varied across brands. Western Digital and Hitachi hard drives lasted much longer than Seagate’s in Backblaze’s study.

I felt good about shutting down my own server because of the energy savings but bad about the fact that I spent money on it. The last time I purchased hard drives was 2016 so they are definitely out of the predicted lifespan.

So I've gone back to my disc player (UB9000) and still have my online streamer (ATV4K) and for me that's all I need.

I am fortunate that I have room for stuff including enough room to have my collection organized for easy access.
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Old 10-17-2022, 12:12 PM   #39125
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Well no one should be complacent Time and Technology moves on, Oppo and Samsung are out of the Blu-ray, 4K Player Market. So you only have two Major Companies Panasonic and Sony. With only one Disc Duplication Facility left in North America, Mexico, Streaming Digital is looking way better than Physical!
You forgot about the Playstation 5 and the Xbox Series X. Both of those play Blu-ray's and UHD's. The Xbox has sold 15 million units globally as of June 22 and the Playstation 5 has sold 21.4 million globally as of July 22. That is 36.4 million optical disc players in the wild, not counting the stand alone players. That's a pretty hefty install base.

And streaming will never look better than the equivalent physical disc.
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Old 10-17-2022, 12:14 PM   #39126
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Well no one should be complacent Time and Technology moves on, Oppo and Samsung are out of the Blu-ray, 4K Player Market. So you only have two Major Companies Panasonic and Sony. With only one Disc Duplication Facility left in North America, Mexico, Streaming Digital is looking way better than Physical!
Discs look and sound better than streaming while still being affordable.

You are really missing out on the best format for home video that ever existed.

However many duplication facilities exist, .... there's so many great new releases !

Time and Technology moving on could mean so many things. I expect it means higher prices and more ads for streaming content. Introduce a ad based studio subscription plan to get the numbers up and then raise prices of all the plans ... it's too easy.

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Old 10-17-2022, 12:18 PM   #39127
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Hopefully not permanently. I've been thinking of buying a second Sony player as a backup too.
For me, Sony have always proved to be very reliable, and over the years I've also owned several Sony DVD players and VHS recorders - I honestly don't recall having any problems with any of them. However my first VHS recorder from about 1985 which was a Philips, dear lord, I could tell you a few stories about that one.

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Old 10-17-2022, 12:27 PM   #39128
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/obsess...pKhwDJ_pnvposE

This is a great article for those of us that appreciate the advantages physical media offers, and for those who may want a little insight into why we are so passionate about this hobby. I especially loved this quote:

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We’re not incentivized to buy a Blu-ray when it’s so much easier to just check out the movie with a few clicks of the remote or touchscreen. But the trade-off for that ease-of-use is us offering ourselves up as the product, our viewings meant only to be another delivery system for conglomerates to gather our data and enrich themselves via our attention.
I have bought many movies that may not have been my favorites, but which offered special features that not only shed new light on the movie but provided in depth analysis of the filmmaking process and the journey to bring it to the screen. Almost every Ridley Scott disc has an excellent documentary and some are longer than the feature itself. If you've never seen it I highly recommend The Furious Gods: Making Prometheus on the 3D Prometheus Blu-ray. It is an almost 4 hour documentary on the making of the film from conception to release. It's worth the price of the disc alone.

I know some Digital movies offer special features with purchase, but those are not a guarantee and 9 times out of 10 these days they are just fluff promo pieces that are included on the disc as well. But studios have no incentive to produce the deluxe special features from the height of the DVD era because very few streaming viewers will scroll down far enough to look at the special features, much less watch them.
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Old 10-17-2022, 12:30 PM   #39129
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Seems like only yesterday ad based video services were free.



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Old 10-17-2022, 01:10 PM   #39130
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I'm currently using Sony's (I recently bought another UBP X-800M2) at Spatial's and judging by the price, I suspect the Reavon's are superior.
This from memory so may have errors, I believe the Sony, Oppo and Reavon all were/are based on MediaTek SoC. Have not looked into which processor is used in each brand and model.

For Blu-ray I can not see any difference between my Oppo and Sony, for UHD Blu-ray the Oppo does better on tone mapping than the Sony as displayed on my Sony projector. If I had the newer Sony UHD Blu-ray players that could be different.
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Old 10-17-2022, 01:30 PM   #39131
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Generally speaking, you can rely on your hard drive for three to five years on average. A compelling study that proved this statistic comes from the online backup company Backblaze who analyzed the failure rates of 25,000 running hard drives.
I agree Backblaze is a really good source for HDD info. Also keep in mind their drives operate in a online 24/7/365 commercial environment.

My Synology NAS is > 10 years old with two WD drives and still going. I have it go into hibernation after 10 minutes of no use so it probably is offline > 20 hours each day. The Zappiti NAS is only on when we intend to watch something via the NAS. My NAS drives see very light duty but I purchased drives rated for NAS use (WD Red Plus). I have some seldom used anymore IDE HDD's that are > 25 years old.
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Old 10-17-2022, 11:43 PM   #39132
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There are some renaming apps made for this purpose, some here. The one I use is simple and have only used it for some DVD TV stuff.

My Zappiti has its own thing and does fairly good with movies, TV is hit or miss.
For television, I'm just not gonna add them to Home Theater 4.0 and view them directly from the Media Center (the one without all the pretty pictures). I have a particular way I like to name TV episodes and don't care for how Home Theater 4.0 has you choose episodes. What I've also done is connect my 5 TB external SSD to the Z9X's USB and added the Samba location to Quick Access in Windows, allowing me to copy from the computer whatever series I am currently watching and keep the computer off during playback. Television shows are just so much better without the noise of the PC fans. The movies will all stay on the server, so that I don't have to turn the NAS on just to watch an episode or two on the weekend. When the NAS is off and I have a new movie to watch, I will just temporarily put it on the SSD over the Samba share, instead of turning on the NAS needlessly. I'm not one of those people who keeps it running 24/7.

I'll try to name all the movies according to TMDB and move the special features this weekend. Thanks, Wendell, bhampton.

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TVdb also would have had me name Batman according to the air date order instead of production order, which is a giant no no. Seven episodes to find out what happened in The Cat and the Claw? Two episodes to find out what happens in Robin's Reckoning? Hell no.
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The new Apple TV 4K is up for pre-order:

New Features and Options:
A15 Bionic Chip
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2 models: One with only Wi-Fi and Ethernet/Wi-Fi
New Price starting at $129

https://www.apple.com/apple-tv-4k/
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Old 10-18-2022, 06:10 PM   #39135
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The new Apple TV 4K is up for pre-order:

New Features and Options:
A15 Bionic Chip
HDR 10+
USB-C Siri Remote
2 models: One with only Wi-Fi and Ethernet/Wi-Fi
New Price starting at $129

https://www.apple.com/apple-tv-4k/
I've upgraded before but I think I'll skip this time.
The fact the remote charges with USB C is no issue for me.
I wouldn't use anything but the Ethernet model.
My AVR won't pass HDR10+ even tho my projector does support it.
Slightly faster user interface is also no biggie.


Now, if I never had one this would be the one to get most likely. But, I don't think this update does anything for my use case. All said, I'm pretty enthusaistic about ATV4K so time will tell.
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Old 10-18-2022, 07:20 PM   #39136
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The new Apple TV 4K is up for pre-order:
Do you plan to procure one?

Like Brian, think I will pass. My streaming viewing is down to very little these days. As I use a URC MX-980 remote it is hoped Apple retained the IR control of the new model, just in case there is a change of mind.
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The new Apple TV 4K is up for pre-order:

New Features and Options:
A15 Bionic Chip
HDR 10+
USB-C Siri Remote
2 models: One with only Wi-Fi and Ethernet/Wi-Fi
New Price starting at $129

https://www.apple.com/apple-tv-4k/
Iím keeping my first gen ATV4K. Adding an HDR10+ which, IMO a dead format anyway, is not making me wanting to upgrade.
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Do you plan to procure one?

Like Brian, think I will pass. My streaming viewing is down to very little these days. As I use a URC MX-980 remote it is hoped Apple retained the IR control of the new model, just in case there is a change of mind.

I probably will. I know someone that works at Apple and they can get me a 15% off hardware discount. It'd be like $139 shipped with sales tax. I'd get the one with Ethernet/WiFi. I will pre-order mine closer to release date, though.
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I like digital, however ITunes and Vudu removed the 4K version of The Edge of Tomorrow in 4K for a sizeable time period when they announced it was coming out on 4K Blu-ray & only got the HD version which is like watching a movie in SD to me now. I NEVER pay to rent or buy a movie if it's HD.
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Just placed a 4K disc order with BB for:

The Limey 4K disc
It: Chapter 1 4K disc
Alligator 4K disc
Pan's Labyrinth 4K disc

The Limey is getting shipped to me, while the other three are being prepped for in-store pick up.
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