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Old 12-04-2022, 03:35 PM   #39621
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Many tv productions have big budgets as well though. Streamers have European bases and use films studios from the respective countries. This is true of England with our famous film studios being used by Netflix. The inability to use LED walls would Impact all those studios.
How many of those studios have LED walls? I'm guessing none.
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Old 12-04-2022, 03:42 PM   #39622
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Old 12-04-2022, 03:46 PM   #39623
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How many of those studios have LED walls? I'm guessing none.
Two in the U.K. alone, with Sky studios being the latest.

https://www.vfxvoice.com/led-walls-a...-s-and-europe/
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Old 12-04-2022, 03:50 PM   #39624
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Two in the U.K. alone, with Sky studios being the latest.

https://www.vfxvoice.com/led-walls-a...-s-and-europe/
The U.K. doesn't have the energy restrictions. The only LED wall on that list that will be affected is the one in Germany.
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Old 12-04-2022, 03:52 PM   #39625
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The U.K. doesn't have the energy restrictions. The only LED wall on that list that will be affected is the one in Germany.
Come on Penguin, you can’t possibly believe these things won’t have a impact on other countries. The pressure is now on to decrease energy use across the sector.
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Old 12-04-2022, 03:53 PM   #39626
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Old 12-04-2022, 03:54 PM   #39627
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I believe in magic.
Or the extreme dulling of our screens.
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Old 12-04-2022, 03:56 PM   #39628
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Will my LED wall come with lots of HDMI 2.1 ports?
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Old 12-04-2022, 03:59 PM   #39629
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Come on Penguin, you can’t possibly believe these things won’t have a impact on other countries. The pressure is now on to decrease energy use across the sector.
Even if LED walls are banned throughout Europe European studios will still be able to shoot every other kind of scene. Not being able to shoot one specific type of scene in Europe is a minor issue.

Or do you think LED walls will replace all other forms of filming scenes?
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Old 12-04-2022, 04:00 PM   #39630
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Or the extreme dulling of our screens.
The extreme dulling of our wits from too much streaming dreck is more like it.
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Old 12-04-2022, 04:02 PM   #39631
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will my led wall come with lots of hdmi 2.1 ports?
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Old 12-04-2022, 04:02 PM   #39632
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Even if LED walls are banned throughout Europe European studios will still be able to shoot every other kind of scene. Not being able to shoot one specific type of scene in Europe is a minor issue.

Or do you think LED walls will replace all other forms of filming scenes?
Not to mention that there will always be used LED walls for sale on the secondary market. ebay to the rescue!
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The extreme dulling of our wits from too much streaming dreck is more like it.
It’s very much becoming a huge tool for production.
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It’s very much becoming a huge tool for production.
Who are you calling a huge tool?
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Old 12-04-2022, 04:15 PM   #39635
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I have been on the fence with picking up the Discovery series, maybe because of the price. Did you buy them used?
I have been buying each season for both me and a friend.

It's his birthday today, but he will have to wait until Thursday to get his birthday present of season 4. I am treating him to pizza today as kind of a birthday gift appetizer until it arrives.

Personally, I can't say if the seasons are any good or not, but my friend and his wife really enjoy them.
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Old 12-04-2022, 04:25 PM   #39636
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One thing I didn’t think about with the upcoming restrictions on tv energy use is how will it impact screen walls used in Hollywood/EU/Disney film and tv productions (CG backgrounds and sets in other words)
there are several issues with your train of thought

1) the change now ads 8k sets to the mix but for 4k (and lower they were already restricted. the restrictions are now a bit tougher but all they really mean is TVs that got an F before (A-G is a pass) will now get a G and still pass. So not new restrictions but an update on old restrictions that have been in place for years

2) the law has a calculation based on screen size and power usage and an EEI max so a bigger display is allowed more power (why you see those tables everywhere)


3) A video wall can either uses more than one TV and so what each TV does is the only thing that matters, or projector(s) and the law does not apply to projectors.
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Old 12-04-2022, 04:33 PM   #39637
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there are several issues with your train of thought

1) the change now ads 8k sets to the mix but for 4k (and lower they were already restricted. the restrictions are now a bit tougher but all they really mean is TVs that got an F before (A-G is a pass) will now get a G and still pass. So not new restrictions but an update on old restrictions that have been in place for years

2) the law has a calculation based on screen size and power usage and an EEI max so a bigger display is allowed more power (why you see those tables everywhere)


3) A video wall can either uses more than one TV and so what each TV does is the only thing that matters, or projector(s) and the law does not apply to projectors.
Regarding point one, some high end 4K sets don’t pass and they are the ones that tend to be the best quality.

Same will apply with LED walls, don’t forget no Micro-LED will pass the new restrictions. It’s expected that future Micro-LEDs will be the preferred choice for huge LED walls due to their clarity and brightness.
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Who are you calling a huge tool?
I have a huge tool but I’m not one!
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Old 12-04-2022, 04:36 PM   #39639
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Yeah, but streaming is a global thing now and a lot of films are being made just for streaming. Film studios are being built all over Europe. Heck, even in my home town of Sunderland in North East England.
his point was that filming can be done anywhere, even worst since more or less the dawn of cinema backgrounds have been able to be added in post filming.

Let's assume you are right (i.e. the TV in the background can't be there because it goes against EU laws), why can't the actors film in front a green wall in Europe and anything in the background be filmed here in Montreal where those TVs are allowed, and the electricity is clean and cheaper
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Old 12-04-2022, 04:38 PM   #39640
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It’s not click bait, it’s been confirmed by the EU commission. Their restrictions will be in place by March 2023. A big fuss has been kicked up in the tv industry.
the EU regulation is real. The interpretation that it means the end of 8k is not. A big fuss has happened here but can you show me one TV manufacturer that agrees that it means the death of 8k in Europe.
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