Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Okay Wendell you haven't changed starting off the year name calling again.

Forgot about relativity already? Some that own $40,000 to $150,000 projectors would probably refer to me as a cheapskate because my projector was only $15,000 (MSRP). The difference, I visit forums, like this one, but I NEVER post negative comments in them.

You don't know anything about D2D because you never tried it. The Disc used can't be a rental, it has to be a regular Distribution Disc. Some Mom & Pop Rental Stores had these, but no all the ones I converted were bought.

Making BS statements again. The first few DVD disc I converted at Walmart commenced just a day or two after Walmart started the program. Had to take the disc to the Walmart store and have an employee do the conversion then they would stamp the DVD label as converted. I had to explain the the process to the employee's at my local store. They seemed relieved to know why they had received that stamp in their department.

Only see very few disc labeled as rental and I have no idea if the Vudu app could tell the difference. Until very recently Redbox has been buying ALL Disney titles at retail so I know those titles would work. In the past they have done this with other studios as well.

[tangerinewolf]

A quote from Disney:

"While disc sales will likely continue to decline in 2020, no one’s giving up on DVD, Blu-ray Disc or, in particular, 4K Ultra HD."

Sounds like Disney propaganda to me.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by tangerinewolf

A quote from Disney:


Sounds like Disney propaganda to me.

I have seldom known Disney to leave any money on the table; they'll keep selling us discs so long as there is any significant moolah to be had. Disney likes having many revenue streams, pun intended.

Disney+ is not expected to break even, yet alone turn a profit, for at least three years and at their current rock bottom pricing of $7 per month, or even less with a contract, that's no surprise. When they get enough people hooked on their service, watch those rates rise until they are comparable with other subscription streaming services.

[flyry]

Thank you all

Originally Posted by Ricky G

Curious as to what screen cleaner you use. I may need to get some for my TV soon, It has been a while since I opened it and it may need to be cleaned. How often do you clean the screen?

I had just been using the microfiber that came with my tv a few years ago but there were certain smudges that would not come out. Best buy has audioquest cleaner for $20 with a pineapple microfiber cloth and it works miracles. Only used it once but it looks brand new again

[Boccaccio]

"While disc sales will likely continue to decline in 2020, no one’s giving up on DVD, Blu-ray Disc or, in particular, 4K Ultra HD."


OK, Disney, then surprise me with The abyss Blu ray this year.
It's been long overdue.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Boccaccio

"While disc sales will likely continue to decline in 2020, no one’s giving up on DVD, Blu-ray Disc or, in particular, 4K Ultra HD."


OK, Disney, then surprise me with The abyss Blu ray this year.
It's been long overdue.

James Cameron himself is the hold-up on that release, along with True Lies, so until his obsession with the Avatar sequels is over, I doubt that we will see either.

Supposedly both movies have been remastered for an HD release, but he has not gotten around to approving them, so they remain unavailable.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by flyry

Thank you all

I had just been using the microfiber that came with my tv a few years ago but there were certain smudges that would not come out. Best buy has audioquest cleaner for $20 with a pineapple microfiber cloth and it works miracles. Only used it once but it looks brand new again

I just spit on the screen and use an old gym sock myself. I'm glad you found a good solution, but mine's cheaper and its always on tap!

[Boccaccio]

Originally Posted by Vilya

James Cameron himself is the hold-up on that release, along with True Lies, so until his obsession with the Avatar sequels is over, I doubt that we will see either.

Supposedly both movies have been remastered for an HD release, but he has not gotten around to approving them, so they remain unavailable.

Yes, I know, I've been following the thread in the wishlist section.
I just think it's astonishing that one man has so much power.
And if Disney is serious about releasing them they would just make him sign off on those. They're funding his Avatars after all.
And I think his obsession with Avatar will never end. Four sequels in the works already. If those make a ton of money, which isn't unlikely, then what ?
Even more sequels, prequels, spin-offs and by then so much time has passed he can just start rebooting them.

He should just release The abyss and True lies already. Many fans want them.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Boccaccio

Yes, I know, I've been following the thread in the wishlist section.
I just think it's astonishing that one man has so much power.
And if Disney is serious about releasing them they would just make him sign off on those. They're funding his Avatars after all.
And I think his obsession with Avatar will never end. Four sequels in the works already. If those make a ton of money, which isn't unlikely, then what ?
Even more sequels, prequels, spin-offs and by then so much time has passed he can just start rebooting them.

He should just release The abyss and True lies already. Many fans want them.

I want them, too. My ancient non-anamorphic DVDs aren't very pleasing to watch.

I think he has that power per his contract and that is hard to take away. So much money has already been spent towards making these Avatar sequels that I think that Disney likely has no leverage in that regard even if they wanted to use it. These sequels are all but certain to make them vastly more money than any blu-ray release of these two old classics. At the end of the day, it is the money that matters to Disney, not what fans of The Abyss and True Lies want.

At this point, I am ready to try and make a voodoo doll of Cameron and to inflict pain upon him hourly until he gets these released, but I need something personal of his to complete the doll.

[Krizzle1]

Im very reserved when it comes to buying titles, I personally only buy movies that im likely to watch again (more than 2, 3, 4 times), like Home Alone (as a typical example) and ive probably said this before about my buying habits but, ive been thinking...

why do some people keep large collections of titles? Like do you ever go back to rewatch them? I kinda understand about steelbooks, yeah, they're nice to look at/keep on display but standard blurays nnnnahhh, and this is where the whole thing starts where people start selling their titles (because they dont have the space anymore) and they

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Krizzle1

Im very reserved when it comes to buying titles, I personally only buy movies that im likely to watch again (more than 2, 3, 4 times), like Home Alone (as a typical example) and ive probably said this before about my buying habits but, ive been thinking...

why do some people keep large collections of titles? Like do you ever go back to rewatch them? I kinda understand about steelbooks, yeah, they're nice to look at/keep on display but standard blurays nnnnahhh, and this is where the whole thing starts where people start selling their titles (because they dont have the space anymore) and they

I rewatch movies, even TV shows, routinely. I simply love knowing that I if get a hankering to watch something, it is sitting right there on the shelf. I never know what I might want to revisit; knowing that I can act on any whim instantly is just awesome.

It is an added bonus when I have company as my guests can browse my collection and find something that they either have never seen or that they have longed to see again.

The quality advantage of discs aside, much of what I own is not going to be found on the likes of Netflix whose focus is now almost entirely on their largely unoriginal content. Even digital sellers like Vudu lack a lot of titles. I like knowing that I can watch my movies no matter how well my internet service may, or may not, be performing not to mention the variability of how well a digital provider may be handling the demand upon their servers. My ability to watch my discs in their full quality is never compromised due to such external forces over which I have no control.

Almost everyone that I know have large collections. The only difference is in what they collect. We fill our space with something. It is analogous in some ways as to why people keep their books despite seldom re-reading them and that certainly takes much more time than rewatching a movie. You never know when you might want to see, or read, something again. It is fantastic being able to do so the moment that the desire strikes you.

[cheez avenger]

Originally Posted by Vilya

In other fascinating news, I tallied my disc purchases for 2019 in terms of quantity only. In my usage of the word, a "title" can be a single movie, a single TV season, even a complete TV series set.

4K disc titles: 53
Blu-ray titles: 123
DVD titles: 5

178 titles total is an off year for me, but my movie budget for 2019 was partially derailed by pesky healthcare costs and my recent TV purchase. I will strive to do better in 2020.

Which five DVD titles did you buy? I bought two titles myself and it was for the DVD version of Wasabi and Crimson Rivers 2: Angels of the Apocalypse. I bought simply because there are no English friendly copies on BD or Digital HD anywhere. The DVDs were released by Sony stateside. I also lucked out with Wasabi since the price fluctuates because it may be OOP.

[CV19]

Originally Posted by Krizzle1

why do some people keep large collections of titles? Like do you ever go back to rewatch them? .....

I'd say I have a fairly substantial collection (although not as many as some members here have ), but yes I do re-watch many discs, particularly some of the older "classic" films which I never get tired of watching.

I don't make as many blind purchases with blu-rays as I used to do back in the DVD days, and I now tend to buy what I know I'm going to enjoy. But as most of the time there's not much really worth watching on TV anyway, I'll always find a film that I'm happy to revisit.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

Which five DVD titles did you buy? I bought two titles myself and it was for the DVD version of Wasabi and Crimson Rivers 2: Angels of the Apocalypse. I bought simply because there are no English friendly copies on BD or Digital HD anywhere. The DVDs were released by Sony stateside. I also lucked out with Wasabi since the price fluctuates because it may be OOP.

These are my DVD purchases for 2019:









and this sappy Christmas movie:

[PhysicalMediaNut]

Originally Posted by Krizzle1

Im very reserved when it comes to buying titles, I personally only buy movies that im likely to watch again (more than 2, 3, 4 times), like Home Alone (as a typical example) and ive probably said this before about my buying habits but, ive been thinking...

why do some people keep large collections of titles? Like do you ever go back to rewatch them? I kinda understand about steelbooks, yeah, they're nice to look at/keep on display but standard blurays nnnnahhh, and this is where the whole thing starts where people start selling their titles (because they dont have the space anymore) and they

What put things into perspective for me is adding up the run time of all of my content on disc (approx.) and comparing that to the amount of free time I get throughout the year. There just isn’t enough time to watch the stuff I own. That slowed things down for me. If I don’t even have time to watch the stuff I own, there isn’t a lot of incentive to keep buying media regularly. I still buy occasionally but it needs to be something I really want.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by PhysicalMediaNut

What put things into perspective for me is adding up the run time of all of my content on disc (approx.) and comparing that to the amount of free time I get throughout the year. There just isn’t enough time to watch the stuff I own. That slowed things down for me. If I don’t even have time to watch the stuff I own, there isn’t a lot of incentive to keep buying media regularly. I still buy occasionally but it needs to be something I really want.

Early retirement helps with that free time problem. If you can do it, I can not recommend it enough.

I checked the "run time" of my collection, not including legacy formats like laserdiscs, and if I spend 8 hours a day watching every single day, I can rewatch it all in just 6.75 years. I'm good with that; that's "job" seniority worth earning!

[CV19]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I checked the "run time" of my collection, not including legacy formats like laserdiscs, and if I spend 8 hours a day watching every single day, I can rewatch it all in just 6.75 years. I'm good with that; that's "job" seniority worth earning!

Given the choice of working an 8 hour shift for 6.75 years or watching movies for the same period of time, I know which I'd prefer.

[Anthony P]

Happy New Year to every one here.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Looks like CES 2020 will be another dull year for home theater. Who knows, could be more new vibrators will be introduced this year? Maybe John Deere will have a Alexa and/or Google controlled mower.

[sapiendut]

There will be IMAX Enhanced Experience at Xperi booth with AudioControl used as a pre-pro. More OLEDs from Chinese brands.