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Old 06-26-2014, 03:28 AM   #41
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No, 480i looks fine. I'd say that it's better than on a 1080p TV owing to the powerful upscaling engine, especially with non-anamorphic DVDs.
Cool and impressive. I have room for an 80" plus tv. When my 60" Panasonic GT50 dies, I'll go 4k if prices are reasonable. Don't know how many titles I'll rebuy in 4k, might only get new releases in 4k. I wonder if they will have 4k/1080p combo discs.
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All around me I see the same. I should know because every time a relatives or friends tv needs setting up they send for me. 7-8 years is the least I would expect out of a tv at present. I see no evidence to doubt that.
Perversely, I've recently found myself wishing that my six-year-old Sony Bravia S-Series KDL-40S4100 would fail, or at least show signs of being about to go, so that I'd have an excuse to buy a new 4K television.

I've been looking longingly at the LG Electronics 49UB8500 49-Inch 4K Ultra HD TV, which seems to have pretty much everything I want. But if I wait a year, the actual 4K standards may be finalized. So I guess I should hope that my current TV lasts another year or two.
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I hope my Kuro lasts at least until we have a fully finalised disc with a fully finalised 4K spec. It doesn't look as if pioneer will be back for the next generation which is a shame. What ever I end up with must top the Kuro.
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Old 06-28-2014, 08:10 AM   #44
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Perversely, I've recently found myself wishing that my six-year-old Sony Bravia S-Series KDL-40S4100 would fail, or at least show signs of being about to go, so that I'd have an excuse to buy a new 4K television.

I've been looking longingly at the LG Electronics 49UB8500 49-Inch 4K Ultra HD TV, which seems to have pretty much everything I want. But if I wait a year, the actual 4K standards may be finalized. So I guess I should hope that my current TV lasts another year or two.
Good on ya! I will bite the bullet in a couple of years.
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Old 06-28-2014, 08:11 AM   #45
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I hope my Kuro lasts at least until we have a fully finalised disc with a fully finalised 4K spec. It doesn't look as if pioneer will be back for the next generation which is a shame. What ever I end up with must top the Kuro.
I'm sure I read somewhere that Pioneer are teaming up with Dixons (electrical store) to produce sets in the UK. I don't know if that will extend to 4k though.
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Old 06-28-2014, 09:26 AM   #46
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I'm hoping the new format is HEVC UHD 4:4:4 RGB, but I can live with 4:2:2 as well.

Dolby Vision would be awesome as well. It would actually look real.
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I agree. However, I´d like to have 5120x2160 as an optional resolution for cinemascope movies to be part of the tech specs. Wide UHD displays will reach the market within the next years, I suppose. Remember those Samsung, LG and Toshiba 21:9 prototype displays from this year´s CES. Backwards-compatibility should not be a problem. The player would just have to downscale the image to letterboxed 3840x2160 pixels before output via HDMI. Just upscaling a conventional UHD signal to fit a 21:9 display without black bars wouldn´t add much value to 21:9 TVs. But if you get the full pixel resolution of a 5120x2160 display from a source, you´d have superior image clarity compared to letterboxed cinemascope movies on 16:9 UHD screens.

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I'm sure I read somewhere that Pioneer are teaming up with Dixons (electrical store) to produce sets in the UK. I don't know if that will extend to 4k though.
Badging exercise only I'm afraid :-(.
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Badging exercise only I'm afraid :-(.
Ah right, ok.
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I'm hoping the new format is HEVC UHD 4:4:4 RGB, but I can live with 4:2:2 as well.

Dolby Vision would be awesome as well. It would actually look real.
I posted this link (just download the Version 1 document for explanation and visual illustration - http://phenix.it-sudparis.eu/jct/doc...nt.php?id=6479
) over 6 months ago somewhere on this forum. Point being, first hope for 10-bit video content delivered to consumers and from that….springs all good things.
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Old 07-03-2014, 04:33 PM   #51
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I'm am definitely looking forward to 4K on BD. Sad thing is I just bought a Samsung 55" 6300 series set 6 months ago and I am already looking at replacing it with their 65" 4K set this fall. 55" works perfect but I wanted a 4K tv last year, price was still steep at $4,500, this year hoping Samsung runs their week long black friday sale to see how much they will do on $3,200 for the 65".
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Old 07-31-2014, 06:25 PM   #52
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Is the 4K blu-ray format dead in the water, at this point? I've seen lots of speculation online, but nothing concrete.
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Is the 4K blu-ray format dead in the water, at this point? I've seen lots of speculation online, but nothing concrete.

well i am fine with blu ray 1080p they look amazing on a projector screen. I do not see the need for an upgrade. If people are content with Blu Ray hell some even still have DVD. Then i am pretty sure 4K will flop big time digitally and physically
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Is the 4K blu-ray format dead in the water, at this point? I've seen lots of speculation online, but nothing concrete.
From all the interviews I've read/heard, the officials are all trying to sound enthusiastic but there doesn't seem to be much 'oompth' behind the whole thing.

Seems they're all very aware that the majority still buy DVDs and are now shifting to accessing their content digitally.

If Blu-ray has 'struggled', I think we can all guess how 4K Blu-ray is going to do.
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Is the 4K blu-ray format dead in the water, at this point? I've seen lots of speculation online, but nothing concrete.
4K BD
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Old 07-31-2014, 09:25 PM   #56
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...Then i am pretty sure 4K will flop big time digitally and physically
Good to see your area of 4K expertise has since shifted from technology - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ed#post7361454 to business forecasting.
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From all the interviews I've read/heard, the officials are all trying to sound enthusiastic but there doesn't seem to be much 'oompth' behind the whole thing.

Seems they're all very aware that the majority still buy DVDs and are now shifting to accessing their content digitally.

If Blu-ray has 'struggled', I think we can all guess how 4K Blu-ray is going to do.
If Blu-Ray is struggling, then it needs a heck of a lot of floor space in HMV to do so!!!
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From all the interviews I've read/heard, the officials are all trying to sound enthusiastic but there doesn't seem to be much 'oompth' behind the whole thing.

Seems they're all very aware that the majority still buy DVDs and are now shifting to accessing their content digitally.

If Blu-ray has 'struggled', I think we can all guess how 4K Blu-ray is going to do.
What are you even babbling about Blu Ray isnt stuggling at all. Its thriving.
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I don't think blu ray in particular is struggling, it's just that physical sales are down overall due to the shift to streaming. 4K could bring enthusiasm back to the disc, though, because I would imagine most won't have internet connections fast enough to stream true 4K content.
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I don't think blu ray in particular is struggling, it's just that physical sales are down overall due to the shift to streaming. 4K could bring enthusiasm back to the disc, though, because I would imagine most won't have internet connections fast enough to stream true 4K content.
how do you explain record sales on black friday, chrsitmas weeks, record sales for Frozen, Hunger Games ect.. I do not even think physical is down because of streaming nothing can go up forever. Streaming is replacing renting like blockbuster costumers and such. Not those that want to own their favorite movies and tv shows.
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